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From: MSN NicknameTraveler_733  (Original Message)Sent: 8/6/2006 2:21 AM
Damn right it's copyrighted, ©Kent Lundgren, 1999
Men are Hunters
Women are Berrypickers
Gotta have meat! Gotta have  berries!

 


Thoughts about why men and women
do some things the way they do.
We all know that men and women are different �?"different" doesn’t begin to cover the ground, we aren’t even the same species. In fact, we’re so different I’m surprised we can breed.
Why is that?

  The Genesis of an Idea
One cold, windy afternoon I stood on a street corner thinking uncharitable thoughts about the differences between men and women as I waited for my wife to pick me up. She was, at that moment, 15 minutes late, despite having called from her office to say that she was on the way and would be right there. "Why," I thought, "do so many women have such a vague attachment to the concept of on time"? There are those who argue that that’s not the case, that women don’t have a problem with being on time.

A woman's watch is jewelryTo them I offer as collateral argument, womens' watches. Now this is a watch! On a woman. a watch is jewelry first, and a timepiece second. Only women to whom time must matter, such as nurses, wear watches that you can really read. Most womens' watches are so small you have trouble telling it’s a watch, much less what time it is. If you see a watch like that on a woman, be prepared to spend time cooling your heels as you wait for her.

Now I understand that generalizations do not cover every case. Certainly there are exceptions to the rule that women are tardy. I knew one back in, oh, I think it was 1970 or so, who was reliably on time most times, but as a general rule, well . . .

 
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From: MSN NicknameSilken2004Sent: 8/7/2006 2:03 AM
I KNOW you didn't write that Trav.. but I would LOVE an introduction to  Sir Lund Kentgren or wutever his name is... Don't spose you could hook us up now, could ya?
 
See... the truth is... if y'all didn't care for us berry-pickers, you wouldn't be playin' in a romance community... So... I already had THAT part figgered out... Knowledge of someone's inherent nature has NEVER failed me yet...
 
But.. I would STILL like an email addy for Gren Kentlund or wutever his name is... Guess it's... Last of the Great White Grenters.. or sumthin...
 
 
Luv 'n hugggs,
 
Silken
 

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From: MSN NicknameratsolosmsnSent: 8/8/2006 1:10 AM
Ok so, like you know...  i read the blurbs and then began to read what women said...  that they not really like that at all...  being socially obscure...  yet is that not a sign of the times now a days?  This goes all the way back to if a man and a woman make a boy, then that boy is going to have more woman in him than did the man...  and so on down the course  untill we end up with a rather androgenous society that i've seen unfold in the past 30 years...  Before that it was simply the vote right, men would be the hunters or bread winners and the women would bring up the kids and look after the home.  I myself am not one of them chauvanists that says one side is doin more than the other but tides all shift.  I mean back in the days when women got the vote...  The concept of a chick bein in the military would be about as likely as finding fraggles in the basement.  but now with the whole hunter gatherer thing in the midst and with both genders either bein a hunter or gatherer and it dont seem to matter which anymore or even if both are hunters or gatherers type thing.  This past though is having effects on people today as in :
 
1. I am NEVER LATE for anything.....if I am someone died on my way getting there.
2. I am NOT a nurse and you can tell time just fine on my watch...no jewels or anything fancy, just a time peice.
3. I much prefer silence to lots of gabbing ( sometimes).  I for one like to get to the point of what I am talking about and move on.  My HUSBAND, who is a MAN, on the other hand can drag a story out with such detail your ears will bleed!
4. Colors and patterns are ok I guess.......but personally I will take my blue jeans and t-shirts any ole day!  When I do have occasion to pick out a nice dress or something......I look at it, I try it on and either I buy it or I dont.  Not much to ponder.....I like it or I dont.
5. I have NEVER picked a berry in my life!
 
from our lady dans kansas just goes to show how the need dictates what is to be done....  And quite likely she has never needed to pick a berry in her life. 
 
So many masculine and or feminine values are learned and if a boy child isn raised predominantly by men or in a clan of men, he is gonna take on traits of whatever feminine rolls are in his life.  same is true i believe for a girl raised in a predominantly male society...  On that note, is that not what we have been living in all along, with quiet feminine undertones that are growing less and less quiet as time goes along
 
Some of the more manly man figures today...  a hundred years ago would be regarded as fags.  And a hundred years ago a woman of today would be burned at the stake.  So you see what we have become is a byproduct of the society which we have helped to nurture.
 
Men who talk alot are primarly among women who'll freakin well listen, and not tell him to shut up and tell him not to sit like that.   Our society i believe is becomming androgynous.  And by that i dont mean that women are acting and dressing like men nor do i mean the reverse is true for men.  What i do mean is that theres almost a new medium for both genders.  you know those  baby backpacks...  when they were first out you'd never see a guy with one of them then...  slowly but surely more and more quite manly manish type dads would strap on the kid carrier if for nothing but to make the wifes life easier.  And women now, on the mark of becomming the achievers in society are now becomming the ones who are paid more...
 
By now i'm sure theres at least some of you who feel that your sexuality is in check and are on the verge of tossin this into the ratschripture garbage bin.  Look back on society and with just about every big big societial change, there was always hints, whispers of society shifting...  As there is now.
 
Anyhow peops just so you know i get paid by the word, so if it can be shortened...  i didn do it
 
lol
 
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameSilken2004Sent: 8/8/2006 1:23 AM
My Dear Ratsolo... In response to your statement "And women now, on the mark of becomming the achievers in society are now becomming the ones who are paid more..."
 
Please click here, read and tell me you still think so...
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameLadyinKansas2Sent: 8/8/2006 3:32 AM
Yeah......what Silk said!

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From: MSN NicknameLadyinKansas2Sent: 8/8/2006 4:01 AM
Dear Mr Ratsolo,
 
     Of course society is changing, it always has and always will.  It is called evolution.  Women of today are strong and self sufficient, because we HAD TO BE.  
    Some of the previous times you refered to in your post make a very good point.  During those times MEN ruled the countries and made all the decisions in regards to what they deemed important.  Women were TOLD and taught that we belonged at home raising children and taking care of the home because MEN believed that is where we belonged. But as time passed.......times changed.......times evolved.
 
  In todays society women are still under-paid, over worked and under appriciated by the majority of men who still run things.  BUT, we have learned our value and are learning to shout it out, LOUDLY for the world to hear! 
   Now I am by no means lumping all men into this catagory by any means. There are many men who have evolved right along with the times and have to appriciate women and their rightful place BESIDE them.  But having said that there are still far too many men who believe a woman should not dream, work or achieve anything beyond the man standing ( in his mind) in front of her.
   But let us make one thing clear here, WOMEN AND MEN ARE EQUAL IN EVERY RESPECT.   Women deserve the same as any man does so long as she is willing to work for it like he does.
 
  And your right, I have never had to pick a berry in my life unless of course you count working twice as hard and gaining half as much as most men my age all the while raising 3 children on my own because the MAN couldnt be counted on to carry his share of the family responsibilities.  I have never had anything given to me by anyone.  Everything I have to this day I worked damn hard for and I work hard every day to keep it because I will NOT depend on anyone, man or woman, to ensure I am able to do that.
   I take pride in being a woman but more than that I take pride in being a PERSON who has worked my entire life to reach the goals I have in mind and a PERSON who takes pride in my contributions to this world around me.  It just so happens I am a WOMAN. 
 
  And a man who talks alot is still a rarity in this day and age.  Men, for many a millinium have been taught by other MEN that they dont share their feelings, they don't talk about such things.  "Big boys don't cry"......well ........PLLLLLLTTTTT!  Men are as human as women are.  The same emotions and feelings, we are just, over many many eons, been taught differently is all. 
 
    And for the record, my strength, my inner being comes from being raised by a woman on her own who happened to be raised by 2 parents.  So I am afraid that doesnt fit with your theory of who raises us.  I have a brother who was raised right beside me, he was the only male with 3 females around, and believe me, he fits the typical male stereo type to a tee.  Apparently the "female influence" somehow missed him entirely.  Only explanation I can come up with as there was no man in our lives growing up.
 
      And since your paid by the word......I look forward to your response, long or short!  LOL
 
 

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From: MSN Nickname_·£dÿGåmïñ㤷_1Sent: 8/8/2006 6:48 PM
Ok ..how about this..We All Agree to Disagree on this subject!!....lol
Now everybody come out hugging instead!!......lol

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From: MSN NicknameLadyinKansas2Sent: 8/8/2006 11:02 PM
Aww Ldy.......I certainly took no offence to Ratsolo's post.  Hell we all have an opinion and are entitled to express it.  I like a good debate any day!  No problems from my end what so ever!

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From: MSN NicknameTopmechanic2000Sent: 8/9/2006 2:57 AM
Okay, I tried, I mean I really, really tried but I couldn't keep my mouth shut or my fingers idle.
So, here's my opinion, for what it's worth.
Women and men are equal? NOT!!!! If that is the case, why is it when the big D hits, the women for the most part clean out the man via the courts. What am I basing this on....canada wide statistics....nope, real life here where I live. I have seen it first hand. For the ease of math I'll base it on the number 10, that of those 10 couples, 7 are the women who screw the vows and bail out with the boyfriend in tow. Leavin the hubby to foot the bill and make those monthly payments that generally equal the man's monthly gross.  So you'll excuse me if I don't totally agree with the "women and men are equal in every respect" comment. Blame the judges, blame the courts, but the fact remains.
I read an article awhile back in Reader's Digest regarding it, it was quite the eye opener.
The statement.."women of today are strong and self sufficient because we HAD TO BE".  You are because you "wanted" to be. How you came to that choice has many variables, but it didn't happen unless you wanted it to. In today's society, it was said , women are still underpaid. I strongly disagree and the info Silken was so kind to put up for us verifies my stand on that statement.
So there it is, my lil poof on the issue of berry pickers and hunters.

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From: MSN NicknameLadyinKansas2Sent: 8/9/2006 6:26 AM
Mr Top........just for clarification here.  My reference to men and women being equal was intended only to explain to those men out there who feel women cannot contribute as much to society, life or whatever as any man.  We are equals, we are both human beings with thoughts & feelings.  My statement was in NO way in regard to divorce and who gets what and who gets screwed over.  It was only in regards to the fact that we are all put on this earth ( my belief here) to be treated the same as anyone else.  Neither sex should be placed in a postion of being less than the other. 
   And as to my statement of the strength of women, I stand by that.  Of course so many could of chosen to be weaker than they are, could have chosen to be walked all over and taken advantage of.  But tell me, what sort of choice is that?  No......we gained our strength because we had to in order to survive and become a part of the world as it is today. 
   Everyone has choices of course, your right about that.  But in my case......I could either become strong and self-sufficient OR I could be dependent on someone to come along and take care of not only me but my children also.  So I suppose some might say I had a choice, but for me there really was no alternative.  I had 3 children depending on ME to take care of them so I dug down and found the strength I needed to survive and learned to be self sufficient, because I had to be.  I had no real choice in the matter.  Believe me there were times I sure wish I had someone to just step in and take over for me, to take care of me, but that wasnt the reality of my life.  
   When a man is strong and self sufficent it seems that society still takes if for granted that that is the way it is supposed to be, but when a woman stands up and depends on no one she is there by choice. 
   Now Top I do agree with you on the divorce thing, I too have seen it too many times when a couple splits up and the husband literally gets taken to the cleaners.  I dont think that is right at all.  The marriage was 2 people and the divorce should be 2 also.  There should be an equatible division of assets and debts.  
     In those divorces I have witnessed first hand I have to say though that, using your 10 senario, it would be an even split on who left who.  And rarely was it with a boy/girlfriend in tow.  The divorces got nasty some times, and most of those the husband did get the shaft BUT there were times when the wife got the kids and lost everything else.  Here in the U.S. it all depends on who has the highest priced lawyer unfortunately.
   When I divorced my kids father I walked away with my 3 children and whatever I brought to the marriage.  Nothing more, nothing less. (and with no boyfriend in tow either, hell not one even one on the horizan for many years, I was too busy raising my kids). Didn't want anything else,  but I also fought for 10 years to get him to pay his child support, which I might add didnt come close to covering anything resembling 1/2 of the cost of raising kids.  I didnt want anything from him other than what those children deserved, what HIS children deserved.  When he didnt want to provide it , well I did.  
    I know we all have our own experiences with seeing these types of things, but at no time can we all be lumped into one or the other catagories.  Men are not all alike, and women are not all alike.  We are all EQUAL and deserve the same things though.  
  And that my dear friends is this lil lady from Kansas's point of view and hopefully a bit of clarification on what I meant.
    
  

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From: MSN NicknameSilken2004Sent: 8/9/2006 3:13 PM
Wow... this has become a fascinating thread... It's good to see our members discussing and debating issues that really do affect all of us and... more importantly, are bound to affect our children and grandchildren... It's also nice to see opinions being expressed with so much respect for one another... Good on ya guys!!!  This is a contentious issues that goes is usually called the Battle of the Sexes.. but the battle isn't to kill each other off.. It's a battle to find a common ground for understanding so that we CAN live in harmony.... married, single or otherwise...
 
I admit... this is an issue close to my heart... Strangely enough, when I returned to University in 1995, I was taking what I thought was a variety of courses but found that regardless of the course name, this was a subject discussed in each of them.  In English, I found myself studying the story of Cinderella... lol... In history, we talked about the fact that history was authored by men and much of women's contributions were left out or ignored when in fact, they played a huge role in the pioneering of both of our countries... (the U.S. and Canada)... In sociology... ditto... the seeming appearance of the welfare rolls being dominated by women and children, being made to look like a woman's issue when it has to do with lax child support laws and according to many schools of thought, is a man's issue... And in my poli sci course, I geared myself to the role of women in government and in the formation of this country... My paper was:  Women in Politics, The Longest War... which earned me a proud 96% and the request of my prof to be able to keep a copy... Boy... was I walkin' on air after that... Suffice to say, as a single Mom and self-sufficient woman for all of my teen and adult years, I am keenly interested in the progress or lack of progress women are making in the world...
 
Trav's tongue-in-cheek post.. gave me the opportunity to tongue-in-cheek back... I love that... Lady came in with her view that women and men are equal.. Ratsolo came in to comment on what he feels have been changes over the years... Lady countered "yabbut.. we're still equal" and then Top came in to say... "Hey... we aren't equal because of the way things are in divorce courts..."
 
Enter me...  unfamiliar with the habits of Manitoba judges... often dictated by the community's pushes for certain things to develop in the courts and not nearly as "fair across the board" as we would have them be for a judicial system that is supposed to be the same country-wide.. But then, we have one province not even signed into our Constitution that still gets huge transfer payments out of our federal government...  Go figger...
 
BUT... over and above those variations, we have the Divorce Act.. a national act that sets out the mandatory requirements of the court's considerations... the first being that all decisions MUST be made in the best interests of the children (if there are any) and the second being that EACH spouse MUST attempt to be self-sufficient to the extent that they are medically and psychologically able following a divorce.  Most of our provinces have provincial statutes that set out that property division on divorce MUST be 50% but the presence of children or special circumstances will change the weight of the courts' decisions... I am not familiar with Manitoba's provincial statutes but I know that Alberta and BC are the same...
 
I am also aware that Top is right when he says that it is mostly women leaving marriages... I've been reading before creating this post and it appears that the reasons have little to do with financial matters and a great deal to do with other problems.  It appears that the most common reason for women to leave marriages is the lack of intimacy they have with their spouses.. and I am not talking about sexual intimacy... I am talking about the friendship part of relationships... the finding each other interesting and actually looking forward to sitting down and talking with one's partner... The second top reason is another love interest...
 
I do beg to differ with you in one area of this discussion Toppers... The tradition of men being of the public domain (the power strokers in the world) and women being of the private domain (the caretakers, nurturers, etc) goes back to the time of Aristotle teaching that women SHOULD be subservient because their bodies ONLY  made the bodies of the babies they bore while it was men's seed that created the spirit of the child... The system has been patriarchal through the centuries... and still is... Today in Canada, women only hold 64 out of the 308 seats in our House of Commons... That is about 20% of the cabinet.  Women hold a little over 1/3rd of the seats in the Senate... They are just there to dust around the old fat guys anyway... It accounts for a lot of the more male-oriented revenue-based decisions... AND the reason why all of the social programs were cut in order to give the rich larger tax cuts... The hand that rocks the cradle is a little more concerned with the issues affecting the children, the poor, the disabled and the elderly and that same hand has been kept down for the sake of financial prosperity for the elite...
 
Thus, it was not a choice for us to decide that we are persons, that we have the right to vote and that we should be able to earn dollar for dollar what a man earns when we do the same job... Currently, as my chart in the other thread indicates... that is not the case... Men enjoy an increase in income when they divorce (plus their freedom from the kids in most cases) and women, on the other hand, tend to sink beneath the poverty line... With the economy being what it has been, loving responsible women stepped out of their kitchens to help their partners shoulder the financial burdens and it is as much a man's issue because it affects his wife's income, as it is a woman's...  When families NEED moms to work, I don't think we can call that "choice"...
 
As to the "whopping support" you mentioned... the Federal Child Support Tables set out the support that a non-custodial parent must pay dependent on their income reported on Line 150 of their income tax return and how many children they have... Unfortunately, it doesn't kick in until a person is earning over $6900 per year and considering that a whopping 52% of people are working "under the table" in this country.... well.. the math is pretty simple!  A non-custodial parent can earn a huge amount under the table while the children  are left behind starve and live in abject poverty... Judge's decisions are also affected by this reality...
 
Closer to home, I have had a bird's eye view into many decisions being made by the courts with my practice in family law... I remember when I was a much younger paralegal being eye-poppingly shocked at what I saw people who had once loved one another do to each other... And.. it is amazing to find out that "John Doe" has been abusing his wife and children for years or that "Jane Doe" has had a gambling addiction for years that no one ever knew about... These same people are functioning in the community as respected people... You'd never know what's going on to look at them...  but when the lid comes off Pandora's Box in divorce court, it comes off in a big explosion.  I saw one lawyer who was sitting in Chambers waiting for his turn before the judge, go Casper-white when he realized that the woman on the stand was a card-carrying nut case and that as his dental assistant in the small town we lived in, she had had sharp things in his mouth.  People will do things to each other out of marital rage that no self-respecting criminal would EVER think to do... I learned quickly that unless you're actually sitting in Court with those people, we all form our judgments based on essentially one side of the issue...
 
I tend to agree with Lady... that regardless of how our current state of affairs came to be... we are ALL equal...  I wouldn't want to be a Family Law Judge for obvious reasons...
 
Now, I'll shut up cuz... well... it's 7:05 in the morning and I have had a grand total of 3 hours of restless sleep in 48 hours... Scuse my damn babble!!!
 
And thanks for this very interesting convo Roomies...
 
Luv & hugggs,
 
Silken
 
 
 
 
 
 

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All valid points one and all, but man, didn't my post stoke the fire?...hehehe
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From: MSN Nickname_·£dÿGåmïñ㤷_1Sent: 8/10/2006 9:20 PM
lol...Forgot where I was there for a sec...
Here is a little exerpt I found on some very important women in Canadain History that as a "BerryPicker" I'd love for all the gentlemen  ahemmmmm "Hunters" to read... If you don't find this quite interesting then maybe the so called ahemmmmm "hunters" should take up their rifles and go out and hunt, either that or enjoy what us "BerryPicker's" have done for today's society!!!...Cuz without us "The BerryPickers" you'd never be able procreate or populate this great country...so wihout further ado...."Hunters" Please digest this with the respect it deserves::
 

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Canadian Heroines

What is a heroine? Who is your favourite Canadian heroine? To share your opinion on what a heroine is, or to tell us your number one Canadian heroine, just send along an email.

Here are a few examples of Canadian heroines (featured in the book 100 Canadian Heroines: Famous and Forgotten Faces):
  • Ann Harvey - a courageous teenager who saved immigrants shipwrecked off the coast of Newfoundland in 1828
  • Fanny 'Bobbie' Rosenfeld - Olympian reputed to be the world's greatest woman athlete
  • Leonora King
    Leonora King
    Dr. Leonora Howard King - the first Canadian doctor to practice medicine in China
  • Thérèse Casgrain - feminist reformer who was the first woman in Quebec to lead a provincial political party
  • Elsie MacGill - the first woman in the world to design an airplane
  • Anna Mae Aquash - a native rights activist from Shubenacadie, Nova Scotia, who became the most prominent woman in the American Indian Movement
  • Agnes Macphail - an impressive politician who was the first woman elected to the House of Commons
  • Mary Ann Shadd - leader of Black Refugee Movement and the first woman to publish a Canadian newspaper
  • Dr. Margaret Newton - a brilliant scientist who made important discoveries that led to the development of rust-resistant grains
  • Violet Clara McNaughton - organizer of the Women Grain Growers and proponent of a public medical care system
  • Major Margaret C. Macdonald - the Matron-in-Chief of the Canadian Nursing Service during World War I
  • Helen Harrison - a pioneer pilot who ferried bombers across the Atlantic during World War II
Discover more about Canadian heroines:
Your Views
  • Anne of Green Gables
    "I live in Kansas now, but I grew up in Saskatchewan. My favourite Canadian heroine is L.M. Montgomery. Mark Twain said she created the most delightful character in children's literature (Anne, from "Anne of Green Gables"). Actually, she's been compared to Mr. Twain by critics more than once - I think it's safe to say she's the Canadian Mark Twain. I admire her, because she was a fantastic writer, as well as an interesting, complex personality.

    Another favourite heroine is Joni Mitchell, because she dreamed of freedom and travel like I do, and of course was a genius in both her art and music. Her legacy will leave a lasting impact both here in the states and in Canada. She was beautiful, intelligent and poetic. Can't get much better than that. "
    JW
    Kansas


  • "Heroines are women who risk their lives in the name of convictions and beliefs and who never lose their determination in spite of adversity...in Canada or anywhere else in the world, for that matter."
    Suzanne Camu
    Ottawa


  • "My favourite Canadian heroine is Emily Carr. I read about her life when I was younger and was very inspired by her artwork and her ability to do what she wanted to do with her life at that time in history."
    Maureen Anderson
    Amherstburg, Ontario


  • Mary Pickford
    Mary Pickford in Victoria, B.C., ca. 1921-1925.
    (F.G. Goodenough/Library and Archives Canada/C-052029)
    "Mary Pickford - she was more than an actress."
    Chico Dedick
    Delta, British Columbia


  • "My favourite Canadian heroines are all the nameless, faceless, immigrant women who do all the backbreaking, low-wage, exploitative work that other more "established" Canadians wont do or take for granted. The notion and creation of "heroines" is therefore somewhat problematic because, by and large, it is these women who are overlooked. My grandmother, Despina, was one of these women who toiled for over 20 years in the pink-collar ghetto in the mid 1990s, she was only making about $12 an hour. Despina, and all the other immigrant women who face challenges above and beyond those of more privileged groups deserve our attention. It is time we began acknowledging their collective and individual accomplishments and not just their struggles. "
    Kiriaki Iossifidis

  • "Laura Secord because she showed spunk."
    Heidi Kraemer
    Vancouver, British Columbia

  • "Interesting forgotten heroine is Sally Ainse."
    Audrey Lawrence
    Ottawa, Ontario

  • "Nellie McClung, the writer, because she was instrumental in making Manitoba the first province to grant women the right to vote."
    Janice Cournoyer
    Lorette, Manitoba

  • "One Canadian Heroine that I missed was Joy Kogawa - an author and witness to a tragic situation who speaks with clarity, honesty and a gentleness that can't hlep but envelope into her "conversation" even those most resistent to listening to her. That truly makes her a gentle giant of a heroine."
    Siobhan Laskey
    New Brunswick

Dictionary Definitions
  • A woman admired for her bravery, great deeds, or noble qualities
  • The most important female character in a story, play, poem, etc.
  • In Greek legend, a woman of more than human qualities, favored by the gods
    (Dictionary of Canadian English, W.J. Gage Limited, Toronto)
Nursing Sisters in France, 
NAC/PA-132851
Nursing Sisters H.O'Donnell, T.M.
Woolsey and J. MacKenzie in France,
July 1944.(NAC/PA-132851)

Other Publications
  • Heroines of Canadian History: The Unrecorded Heroines
    History records the deeds of very few of the genuine heroines who lived during the formative period of our country. Those who have been singled out owe the distinction to their having been associated with some event attracting public attention at the time, and their brave and noble acts became a matter of record, and were thus preserved.

    But what about the countless hundreds who braved the dangers of the frontier, who lived noble lives and died heroic deaths? Concering this vast multitude history is silent, save as they have been commemorated in the general narrative of the struggle that our forefathers endured in paving the way for the generations that were to follow. It was no trifling matter to battle with the impediments that nature placed in the way of the early settlers. The rigors of a severe winter brought sore trials that we, with the comforts and luxuries of the twentieth century, can scarcely appreciate...

    From the time the first settlers landed upon these shores to the present day, the Canadian women have shown an heroic zeal in upholding the honor and good name of Canada. While we point with pride to the noble records of our generals and statesmen, let us not forget the heroic women who have suffered and died for Canada. While we exalt the brave soldier in the ranks, let us not forget the braver wife at home...
    (An excerpt from a chapter by Walter S. Herrington in the book Heroines of Canadian History.Toronto: W. Briggs, 1909.)
Settler's 
home in Manitoba NAC/C-011030
A settler's home in Manitoba. (NAC/C-011030)

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