MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Silken Fire's Fireplace IIContains "mature" content, but not necessarily adult.[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  Silken Fire's Fireplace II  
  Your Hosts And Hostesses  
  Hosts and Hostesses  
  Fire's Principles  
  Misbehavin' Policies  
  
  Fireplace News  
  Opinion Forum  
  Messages  
  Messages  
  General  
  Heart Storms  
  Heart Storms  
  GRRR & Vent  
  Peaceful Debates  
  Peaceful Debates  
  MSN Servers  
  SNAGGABLES  
  SNAGGABLES  
  C & P Backgrounds  
  C & P Background  
  Your Mail  
  Mailboxes A - C  
  Mailboxes D - F  
  Mailboxes G - I  
  Mailboxes J - L  
  Mailboxes M - O  
  Mailboxes P - R  
  Mailboxes S - U  
  Mailboxes V - X  
  Mailboxes Y - Z  
  MEMBERS' SIGN-INS  
  Member Sign Ins  
  Member of the Month  
  Member of Month  
  Springburst: Fun & Fitness  
  Members' Surveys & Intros  
  Member Intro's  
  Our Lil People & Pets  
  Lil Peeps & Pets  
  Happy Birthday!  
  Happy Birthday!  
  In Loving Memory  
  In Loving Memory  
  Singles' Tips  
  Singles Tips  
  Dating Tips  
  Dating Tips  
  New Relationship  
  New Relationship  
  So Far Away...  
  Long Distance Love  
  Relationships  
  Relationships  
  Marriage Tips  
  Marriage Tips  
  Add Sizzle  
  Add Sizzle  
  Romantic Fantasies  
  Romantic Fantasy  
  Midlife Issues  
  Midlife Issues  
  When Loved Ones Hurt  
  Helping Friends  
  People Builders  
  People Builders  
  Career Issues  
  Career Issues  
  Disabilities  
  Disabilities  
  Let's Be REAL!!!  
  Topic Q & A's  
  Topic Articles  
  Family Troubles  
  Family Troubles  
  Parenting  
  Parenting  
  Step-Parenting  
  Step-Parenting  
  Broken and Hurting  
  Broken & Hurting  
  Abused Souls  
  Abused Souls  
  What Men Want  
  Men Want......  
  What Women Want  
  Women Want......  
  He Said / She Said  
  He Said/She Said  
  Our Mystical Realm  
  Mystical Realm  
  Silken's Country  
  Silk's Country  
  Our Garden of Peace  
  "She Weaves"  
  "The Mask"  
  Angel of Highway 109  
  The Strength of a Man  
  The Girl Inside  
  Garden of Peace  
  Silken's Retreat  
  Silken Talks  
  Prose and Poetry  
  Prose and Poetry  
  LMAO Stuff  
  LMAO Stuff  
  Pictures  
  Sign-In & Checkin In Tags  
  Scenery  
  Ally's Album  
  Lady's Gary Allan  
  Angels  
  Angel GIF'S  
  Animations 2  
  Animations 3  
  Animations - Animals  
  Animated GIF's  
  Babies  
  Backgrounds 1  
  Backgrounds 2  
  Backgrounds 3  
  Backgrounds - Nature  
  Backgrounds - Romantic  
  Backgrounds - Sensual  
  Biker Snags  
  Birthday Wishes  
  Body Parts  
  Bumpin' It Up  
  Bye, See Ya, Hurry Back, etc  
  Click Me's  
  Compliments  
  Condolences  
  Congratulations  
  Country  
  Couples  
  Couples 2  
  Cowboys  
  Cowgirls  
  Dancers  
  Debate Stuff  
  Dividers & Decorations  
  Dragons  
  Dreams 'n Wishes  
  Emotions  
  Fantasy Women  
  Fantasy Art  
  Flowers  
  Friends & Friendship  
  Fridays  
  Funny GIF's  
  Funnies & Moods  
  More Funnies  
  Funny Sayings  
  Get Well  
  Good Day, Weekend, etc  
  Good Morning  
  Good Night  
  Great Day Etc  
  Great Week, Weekend  
  Heartache, Sadness, etc.  
  Hello, Howdy, Hi  
  Hugs, etc.  
  Kisses  
  Kisses 'n Lips  
  Last Word  
  Lol, lmao & rofl  
  Love & Inspiration  
  Mail Stuff  
  Masculine Tags  
  Men  
  Men 2  
  Men - Fantasy  
  Missing You  
  Monday  
  Months  
  MSN tags  
  Romance 'n Glitters  
  Saturdays  
  Self Esteem & Inspirations  
  Smilies  
  Sorry, Forgive me, etc  
  Spiritual, Religious, etc  
  Sunday  
  Teasing, Fighting 'n Feelin'  
  Thank You's  
  Thoughts & Prayers  
  Thursday  
  Tuesday  
  Under Construction  
  Weddings  
  Wednesdays  
  Welcome & WB  
  Women  
  Women 2  
  Women 3  
  Women - Fantasy  
  Wow & Woohoo  
  You Have Mail  
  Zodiac Signs  
  Christmas 2006  
  Christmas 2007  
  Christmas Pics & GIF's  
  Easter  
  Father's Day  
  Hallowe'en 2  
  Hallowe'en GIF's & Stuff  
  New Years  
  Remembrance Day  
  St. Patrick's Day  
  Thanksgiving  
  Valentines  
  Andy  
  Bella's Album  
  Cocopuff's Corner  
  Cowboy Country Gent  
  Ginger's Girls  
  Ginger Christmas  
  Ginger's Photos  
  Ginger's Welcomes  
  Hergman's Pics  
  Lady Asst Manager  
  Lady Checking In  
  Lady's Christmas  
  Lady's Family  
  Lady Misc  
  Lady's Stuff..morn, eve, etc  
  Lady Tags  
  Lady's Welcomes  
  Love Muffin (aka Mish)  
  My Blue Hawgs 2, 3 & 5  
  Shyann and Rat and Arley  
  Shy n Rats Critters n Stuff  
  Glimpse Of Traveler  
  Alphas for Fireplace  
  Silken's Pets... Meet Justus  
  Silken's Dancers  
  Silken's Mgr Stuff  
  Silkens Photos  
  Silken's Personal Photos  
  Silken Siggies  
  Silken's Siggies 2  
  Silken's Siggies 3  
  Silken's Siggies 4  
  Fireplace Hosts & Hostesses  
  Fireplace Auth Tags  
  Fireplace Backgrounds  
  Fireplace Glitter Text  
  Fireplace Logos  
  Fireplace Site Map  
  Friends of Fire  
  MSN Emotions  
  Chat Acronyms  
  More Chat Acronyms  
  Fancy Nicknames  
  Fancy Nic's II  
  Fancy Characters III  
  Email Settings  
  Create Fancy Fonts  
  More Fancy Fonts  
  Alt Key Codes List  
    
    
  Links  
  Lest We Forget  
  CHRISTMAS CHEER  
  Christmas Snaggs  
  Christmas Fun  
  Xmas Info  
  Blue Christmas  
  Sensual Xmas  
  Xmas Belly Laffs  
  Xmas Recipes  
  Christmas Beauty  
  Lest We Forget  
  Family Issues  
  Fun & Fitness  
  Alt Key Flourishes  
  GRRR !#!$@~!!!  
  
  
  Tools  
 
Relationships : Volvos and Ferraris: An Automotive Analogy for Love & Relationships
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
Recommend  Message 1 of 1 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSilken2004  (Original Message)Sent: 5/28/2006 9:12 PM
On Volvos and Ferraris: An Automotive Analogy for Love, Passion, and Relationships
Automobiles and Relationships?
by Leslie Karen Lobell, M.A.
So what on Earth do cars have to do with love? (Other than the fact that some people seem to fall in love with their cars)! Well�?maybe nothing�?maybe everything. In this case, I would like to use them in an analogy that may help us to look at and better understand relationships. First of all, I need to make a disclaimer: In terms of automobiles, I have never owned either a Volvo or a Ferrari, and this is meant neither as an endorsement of nor as a warning against any particular type of car. I am simply using my own (and what I believe are our cultural) associations with these types of cars in order to illustrate aspects of relationships. In purchasing an automobile, people look at and value different aspects: for instance, one buyer may want a car that is dependable with good safety features, while another may want a car that is fast, sleek, and fun to drive. Similarly, when "shopping" for a partner in relationship, one person may be looking primarily for someone who can provide a stable relationship, whereas another person maybe looking more for passion and excitement.
 
What or Who is a Volvo?
 
Most people associate Volvos with something safe and dependable. In relationship, a Volvo would be a person who is seen as more stable and responsible. This person may be financially secure: he or she may be wealthy, in a profession that steadily provides a good income, and/or capable of handling finances well. A Volvo person may be seen as emotionally mature or healthy (more calm, less prone to sudden bursts of strong emotions such as rage, able to communicate feelings in a constructive way). A Volvo partner would be seen as honest, trustworthy, and loyal. A Volvo relationship is one in which there is caring and consideration between partners. Volvo partners may feel love, but lack feelings of passionate attraction, lust, or infatuation.
 
What or Who is a Ferrari?
 
Say the word Ferrari, and most people have associations such as: fast, sleek, chic, exciting, sexy. In relationship, a Ferrari would be a person who is seen as passionate, sexy, physically attractive, or in other ways socially desirable. A Ferrari person would be viewed as someone fun and exciting to be with. Perhaps this person is a sensation seeker, who enjoys sports like skydiving, whitewater rafting, or flying airplanes. Perhaps this person just oozes sexual energy on the dance floor and seems like he or she would be a hot, sensual lover. In comparison to a Volvo, the Ferrari partner may be more emotionally expressive or volatile. Perhaps this partner will bring out your own jealousy and insecurity: he or she may be so attractive and get so much attention from others, that you are uncertain whether your mate is trustworthy or capable of upholding a monogamy agreement, if there is one. A Ferrari relationship comes fully equipped with that exciting emotional roller coaster of infatuation, passion, and lust. But unlike in the Volvo relationship, the caring, consideration, and stability of love are lacking. It is fun and exciting while it lasts, but you are never certain when the ride will come to an end, and your partner will be trading you in for a newer model.
 
Scenario 1: I Thought I Was Buying A Ferrari, But I Ended Up With A Volvo
 
Both scenarios I will present are intended to illustrate common occurrences in relationships: the names are fictitious, but you may recognize your own experience in one or both of them�?When Linda first met Tom, sparks were flying. The first time they made love, it felt so wonderful and so intimate. Linda felt like she was falling head over heels in love. She felt an incredible "high" whenever the phone rang and it was Tom on the other end. Tom lived near a harbor, and sometimes he would take Linda out on his boat. He always seemed creative in coming up with ideas about where to go and what to do on dates. Most of these dates eventually ended up at one of their homes, with Linda and Tom passionately making love. Some months passed, and Linda realized that she and Tom were going out less and less, staying in more and more. They were still having sex on a regular basis, but somehow their lovemaking seemed less passionate and more mundane. The so-called honeymoon period was over: somehow the passion seemed to have disappeared, and a less exciting routine had set in. Initially, Linda had thought she was getting a Ferrari. Suddenly, she found herself with a Volvo, in the sense that things had become predictable. She wondered where the fun and excitement had gone - and where was the Tom with whom she thought she was getting involved. Was she now stuck with the Volvo? Should she keep it or trade it in for a new Ferrari? Or was there some way to bring out the Ferrari in Tom again?
 
Scenario 2: I Wanted A Volvo, I Got A Volvo, But Now I Find Myself Eyeing The Ferraris
 
Susan was a romantic at heart. For years she had searched for her soulmate, and had suffered a number of heartbreaks in the process. Deciding to learn how to create and maintain a healthy relationship, Susan began reading self-help books. Susan realized that she had been chasing Ferraris in hopes of converting them into Volvos. In other words, time after time, she would choose a man who was fun and to whom she felt passionately attracted; however, these men were not really emotionally available or interested in settling down in marriage. Learning to value Volvos, Susan started to make healthier choices in dating and relationship partners. She sought a man who had skills in communication, who was a caring partner and considerate lover, who was capable of intimacy, and interested in finding a life partner with whom to settle down.
 
One day Susan found herself with a new challenge: she had gotten what she wished for. She had been dating John for a while, and they were discussing marriage. John had done some therapy and personal growth work, and he was capable of communicating with Susan far better than any of her previous partners. John was generous and considerate; he tried to make Susan feel special and cherished. Initially, Susan even had felt that John would be a great lover for her�?However, lately she was not always feeling as satisfied with their lovemaking. She felt guilty that she started having sexual dreams and waking fantasies about men other than John. Even though she was committed to giving the relationship with John time, to see where it would go, she had caught herself eyeing the Ferraris again, wondering if she was missing something.
 
Making Your Volvo Feel Like A Ferrari: Keeping Love Alive and Rekindling Passion
 
These scenarios are not uncommon. Ultimately, in relationship, even if you initially obtain a Ferrari, most people can't seem to keep it. The relationship that begins with the emotional high of passion and lust cannot sustain this sort of intensity over time. Given the romantic images our culture (in television, movies, and writing) feeds us of undying love and passion, it is difficult even for those who have consciously chosen the more stable, reliable Volvo partner to keep from wondering if he/she "sold out" on the dream of "true love." So if you find yourself with a Volvo wondering about where your Ferrari is or went, the question is, can you have both? Since generally, in relationship, most couples tend to fall into a more mundane routine after the initial infatuation passes, can we have the Volvo but feel like we are riding in a Ferrari? Is passion something that shows up and then suddenly disappears forever -- wholly beyond our control? Or can we choose to create passion in our lives and our relationships?
 
I believe the latter. With conscious effort, we can create romance and rekindle passion in a long-term relationship. The biggest challenge, for many of us, is truly, deeply opening to real intimacy with our partner. We hold ourselves back from getting that vulnerable, for fear of being rejected and hurt. But it is in taking the risk of sharing yourself and truly coming to know your partner - rather than taking for granted that you already know each other - that a much deeper connection can be formed, and a sustainable form of passion can be ignited. It takes conscious effort and daily practice, but it is possible if both partners are willing and committed to the process.
 
"How?" I could devote entire books to this subject, but here are some questions you might ask yourself to begin the process: No matter how long I have known my partner, can I approach him/her with fresh eyes? Can I learn something new in my relationship every day? When I am with my partner, am I truly present (or am I thinking about something or someone else)? Do I make time to communicate with my partner when I can give him/her my full attention and really listen? Am I fully open to loving and sharing with my partner? Do I love and respect myself enough to have chosen a partner who is open to loving and sharing with me? Am I allowing intimacy to grow? Am I communicating with my partner during times when I feel like shutting down, closing off, or otherwise protecting myself? In times when I feel myself getting more distant, can I take the risk to get closer again and open up more? When we make love, do I ask my partner what he/she wants? Do I tell him/her what pleases me? Do I share my fantasies and my innermost erotic self?
 
The biggest challenge is in truly opening yourself to life and opening yourself to another human being. Do you allow yourself to feel connection on all levels: body, mind, soul, and spirit? When making love, can you feel connected with your partner in both the heart and the genitals simultaneously? It is not easy to live daily life with passion. However, if you are committed to working with your partner and working on yourself, you can begin to feel a type of passion in life that is not simply a quick flash in the pan: you can have the security of a Volvo relationship while feeling the excitement of riding in a Ferrari.

I am
seeking
between
and
zip code
 

First  Previous  No Replies  Next  Last