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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrect  (Original Message)Sent: 4/20/2007 10:14 PM
I've mentioned this many times, but within the last week, I've come across two examples of life-long studies, which are very rare now.  Mostly, the studies you hear about determine if a "marker" is raised or lowered by something, such as a food item.  In the case of LDL, it's largely irrelevant, because they don't determine if the LDL is oxidized, and only oxidized LDL is potentially dangerous.
 
On CNN's TV show, "Chasing Life," an experiment on rats was mentioned.  Some rats were given growth hormone and some were not.  The ones that were lived shorter lives.  Several days later, I came across the following report:
 
QUOTE:  ...these types of life-long studies can help us understand human diseases and ageing as well, and that is the added bonus of being able to do long-term non-invasive metabolic monitoring."  The researchers suggest that part of the healthier metabolic profiles of dogs on a restricted diet is related to their changed gut microbial activity, which in turn contributes to their generally improved health and longer lifespan. However, they also found that the overall effects of ageing on restricted and non-restricted animals exerted a greater effect on the metabolic profile than dietary restriction. This in itself is interesting as the lifelong metabolic trajectories of large animals had never been studied in this detail before and such information might be of relevance to ageing humans and their diseases...  UNQUOTE.
 


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From: MSN Nicknametaka00381Sent: 4/26/2007 7:47 AM
Thanks to the Internet we can now view presentations from some interesting symposiums. This one
http://www.edmontonagingsymposium.com/index.php?pagename=eas_archive
was much better than those I have to routinely attend. But still there seem to be some misguided experiments on this field. E.g. Fontana talks about the calorie restriction being the only "technique" to increase the maximal life span (in contrary to exercise). But he openly admits that his research including both life-long studies with animals as well as long-term studies with people (~7 years) compares only the normal junk food diet versus calorie restricted junk food diet. I think we don't need to waste tax money on proving that restricting the amount of "poison" eaten increases the lifespan and health. Something like the "SupersizeMe" movie should be enough in this place. Someone correctly pointed out that he should also include control with what is considered a healthy diet but again in that case the "experts" would probably rush into comparing something like the omega-6/omega-3 ratios. Another talk by Goldspink presented sophisticated research on molecular mechanism of muscle growth just to come to the conclusion that we should exercise to preserve muscle mass. But it is still worth watching because there are some interesting talks on regeneration or markers of aging like mutations and these people are doing a lot of life-long studies with animals.

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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 4/27/2007 10:05 PM
About 2 years ago, I remember coming across some evidence showing that certain kinds of "exercise" were good for mitochondria, whereas other kinds were not. Again, it's important to control for all possibly relevant factors. As I've said before, I observed my great grandfather live to be over 100, and yet he did not "work out" in any way, other than doing things like tending to his plants. Moreover, he was able to get around quite well - and he was strong for a man of 100 !