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Craft Business : Minivans?
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(8 recommendations so far) Message 1 of 13 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameScrollshack  (Original Message)Sent: 9/30/2004 10:20 PM
Hi everyone.

I need some help. What make vehicle do you use for transporting your wares to
craftshows? For 8 years my wife used 1994 Ford Ranger pickup. Well, after over a year of
hip and back problems, it seems that she can't safely get in without popping her hip out.
She drives it every day to work and we has a craft show next weekend, so we need to
purchase something else rather quick. So I am inquiring what you have and what you would
buy if you had to do it over again.

Our number one vehicle is an 2003 GMC Envoy. The running boards are a huge asset. But for
us to load, the back is too high and the seats don't fold down flat enough.We think we
will start looking at minivans as they are lower in the back than a pickup. We will miss
the "throw in dirty" pickup, so we haven't ruled them out either.

What make minivan? As much as I like the new Toyota, I am not sure we want to go that new.
Of course a "must" is the seats must fold up flat or easily taken out. I am hoping for
something that a sheet of plywood might fit inside. Probably a distant wish there.

Thank you for your help and opinions.

Scrollhead


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From: YukTukSent: 9/30/2004 11:59 PM
Hey There
 
Just wanted to let you know that I have been driving a van for about 10 years. Not only for my work GMC Safari) but for my personal vehicle (Dodge Caravan) and I have found the van to be the most versitile vehicle overall and have not found very much I can not put in my caravan. I have removed both the rear seats and laid down a tarp and then loaded 1/2 tonn of gravel and slowly drove it home. I have had a load of fire wood in the back just by folding the back rear seat down and have loaded it full to go camping with my Boy Scout Troop for the week end including the boys with the excess on the top in a closed carrier which by the way will allow you to increase you carrying ability greatly depending on the size of the carrier.
 
Most of all I like the ease in loading and unloading a van especially the new ones with the dual sliding doors it seems to be the right level to lift from and place into for most loads. Not sure if a sheet of plywood will fit inside but I am sure it will load to the top of the van ( I made a rig that clamps down to the roof rack and holds a sheet perfectly.
 
The other thing is with a 6 cylinder you can also bring a small utility tralier to put more stuff in ( an old tent trailer is perfect just take out all the stuff and keep the top for a lid.
 
Hope these comments help
 
Jim

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From: scroller40Sent: 10/2/2004 11:46 AM
I also have a gmc safari.this is my 2nd one[last one had 267,ooo  on it].i haul all my craft show stuff with it,plus a 4000.# travel trailer.it never hesitates.the rear has one door that folds up, 2 that open side to side,with both rear seats out, it can haul almost anything.i have hauled 4 by 8 sheets of drywall with it they go above the drivers seat& i hold them up with my head.i love this vehicle! kim

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From: weekendcleanersSent: 10/7/2004 4:16 PM
Im not trying to start anything here, but unless your ready to start throwing money into transmissions (and yes I said transmissions with an s meaning more than one) I would recommend that you STAY AWAY from Dodge Caravans. We had a 91 and we owned it four years and three transmissions, its not our driving, just look at vehicle ads for private parties and you will see a trend, new or rebuilt transmissions. Other than that its a pretty nice van.
Dave-O

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From: MSN NicknameurahhusmcSent: 10/17/2004 1:57 AM
Probably a little late in replying to your thread scrollhead but don't count out a box trailor. If you like your truck with the running boards just keep it and purchase a tow behind trailor. You can get a very nice one for a couple grand that is light weight and easy to add shelves and such inside. You can still use your truck bed for the larger items you may have like tables and stands. At craft shows you can secure the trailor if they have parking for it and take the truck home or to your hotel.
 Even a used minivan will cost a lot. If not in the initial price in the maintenance down the road.
 Just something to ponder over.
Gary
 

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From: MSN Nicknamedibley1968Sent: 10/17/2004 5:26 PM
That's strange. My parents LOVE their Caravan and have had it for 5 years. No tranny problems or other major mechanical.
 
I think it's all up to your confidence in Consumer Reports. I bought another Ranger based on the 2004 book.
 
Good luck!

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From: MSN NicknamewooddustmakerSent: 10/18/2004 4:14 AM
Gee, we've had our 1991 Dodge Caravan SE since it arrived at the dealership Feb of 91---the key to the Caravan is not getting the 4 speed trany, the best combo on the older vans is the 3 speed trany and the 3.0 Mitsubishi-6 cyliner engine.
 
I use the van for my craftshows, loads easily and gets great gas mileage, even though there's 240,000 miles on it.

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From: wiredheartSent: 10/19/2004 4:12 AM
Just to throw in my 2 pennies worth, I've had a Chrysler Town and Country mini van which was a great. I currently have a Ford Explorer, but over the years I've had mainly cars or station wagons. I can honestly say that I much prefer the cars first and then the station wagons over the mini van & SUV. I have put a full dining room set in a station wagon- 6 chairs,table,hutch,credenza- and moved it in 1 trip over a100 miles.  I've also loaded my motorcycle into the backseat of my Austin Cambridge in my younger daysI guess what I'm trying to say is that what ever you get is matter of personel choice and you should also enjoy driving it.Ron

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From: MSN NicknameOne_Who_CaresSent: 10/20/2004 6:20 AM
I've had a '92 Dodge Caravan for 8 or 10 years. (I bought it second hand and it had quite high milage) It now has 310,000 kilometers on it and still runs well. We were a little concerned about the transmission because reversing when cold results in harsh engagement. Only when shifted into reverse and only when the transmission is cold - as in winter in Saskatchewan.
We recently replaced it with a 2004 Grand Caravan because we wanted the extra space for our craft equipment and because we weren't sure how many more trips to Kentucky it would safely make. My mechanic agrees that it is the over-drive transmission that is a problem.
My brother also has a Caravan, or Grand Caravan, which he hauls his crafts in.
I like the idea of a small box trailer, especially for the display equipment. It would be great to be able to leave all the craft equipment and product in the trailer between show rather than having to unload after each show.
P.S. The '92 Caravan is still available if you need one. It has a lot of travel experience.

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From: HarrySent: 12/27/2004 10:47 PM
I know you have probably already got something but for future reference have you considered a trailer? A small enclosed trailer works well and you can lock it up and do not have to unload it between weekends. You can buy the size you need and customize the inside to the product you sell. 
That would allow you to get whatever best suits your wife and you can still use the Envoy for shows if you would like.
John

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From: MSN NicknameiwillbfishinSent: 1/7/2005 6:40 PM
I am going to recommend the Chevy Astro or GMC Safari as a transport vehicle. I bought a '89 model in "97 for $1500 that had a little rust and have fell in love with it. I have put over 150,000 miles on mine with the only problem being a water pump. It now is set up to pull my boat back and forth to the lake and still runs like new with 232,000 miles on it. You can haul 4x8 sheets if you take the rear seats out (very easy), and lumber up to 10 ft will stack up nice between the front seats. The 4.3 liter 6 cylinder engine will haul waterever you can get in it or hook to it. (This was chevy's 350 engine and they took two cylinders off it, so plenty of power). And I usually get over 20 MPG. I love mine so much that I now also own a Chevy full size custom van and a S-10 pickup all with the same 4.3 liter engine and the auto-overdrive trans.

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From: MSN NicknameScrollshackSent: 1/11/2005 11:24 AM

I posted a lengthy message last week, I guess the internet gremlins swallowed it up. Anyway.....

I am still listening here. If it were me, I would purchase a trailer and be done. But I am comfortable pulling and backing up a trailer. Shoot I even had to parallel park towing a 20 foot bass rig a time or two. But my wife, now that is a little different. I keep telling her we could practice in the driveway. She is considering it though. We like the idea of the Astro or Safari as we like the AWD. We are not in a hurry yet, so please continue to post options.

Thank you,

Scrollhead

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From: MSN Nicknamebushbeast1968Sent: 1/11/2005 1:55 PM
i,ve got an old divco bread truck with 60,000 miles on it.its yellow,and you can see it coming from a mile away.its not bad on gas,the body is aluminum,and its got a 6 cylinder in it.i also have an s-10 pick-up, with a cap,and a full sized dodge van.
but whatever you use you,ll find some way to fit it to your needs.
my s-10, i cut a sheet of plywood downmade wooden tracks for the bed,so i could slide whatever i load out to the rear so im not crawling to the back of the pick-up bed on hands and knees.the dodge van i keep for hauling wood and such,its on its last legs, but lowes and home depot are only a mile away.
the bread truck i use for the shows locally andwithin a hundred miles.
its also big enough that i can sleep in it if need be.
as far as dodge caravans go,my freinds swear by them,soccer moms,baseball moms,football moms,and such,so if it can survive kids,it can survive anything you throw at it
                                                                                        jerry.
 

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