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Tips/Techniques : Final step question.
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From: MSN Nicknamewood-n-things  (Original Message)Sent: 10/4/2006 5:20 PM
First thanks again for all the help with my latest undertaking...Now to the question.
 
I have looked high and low for the thread discussing the final steps for a portrait style cutting and alas can't find it.
 
Do you typically just attach felt to the back of a portrait?  Or do you use a backer board to help stabilize the portrait.  Mine has one very delicate spot around the moth that is quite fragile.  Will felt be enough to stabilize it?
 
How do you attach the felt.  Spray glue on back of portrait?  Use a glue stick? No glue at all just the thingies used to hold the portrait in the frame?
 
Inquring minds want to know....
 
Then for shipping do you place cardboard front and rear and then bubble wrap?
 
 
Thanks for all your replies it is appreciated....
 
Mike


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From: MickSent: 10/4/2006 8:36 PM
Mike, I have always used 1/8" luan plywood stained or painted for a backer board, gives the whole thing a lot of stability. I use either Elmer's Glue All or Aleene's Tacky Glue to attach the cutting to the backer. I use a tooth pick with a small amount of glue for the tiny pieces. Place it between 2 pieces of plywood, place a weight on and let it set over night. There are many things you can use as a backer, picture mat, colored paper, plastic sheets, cloth, whatever you think will look good behind the cutting. I make my own frames. Never shipped one but your idea sounds okay. Good luck with it.
Mick   Delta P-20

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From: MSN Nicknametas2181Sent: 10/4/2006 11:37 PM
Mike,
Most of the time if the cutting will be covered with glass I will just use spray glue and attach the felt or whatever to the cardboard backing of the frame. I don't like glueing to the cutting itself, so I can change the background color if needed.
If the cutting needs additional support I would use 1/8" baltic birch plywood for a backing- either painted or with the background glued on.
As far as shipping what you mentioned should work fine.
 
Tom
 

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From: MSN Nicknamewood-n-thingsSent: 10/5/2006 2:30 AM
Thanks guys.

Nope no glass on this one. I am making a custom frame out of some cedar.

I cut the portrait out of 1/8" oak plywood..I then contacted and asked the young lady and she would prefer to pick her own color of backer.

I have some old mahogany door skin laying around I'll just sand it down and use as a backer and for shipping and she can attach a foamie or some felt color of her choosing...

Thanks again....I gotta remember to make my rabbet deep enough to handle both pieces ..the oak ply and the Luan.

Note to self don't mess up now...LOL

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From: MSN NicknameScroller_AUSSent: 10/5/2006 9:59 AM
a good acid free card from an art shop is what I use, simple and looks good.
 
Brett

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From: MSN Nicknamemikewho177Sent: 10/7/2006 3:09 AM
Hi

I use 1/8" masonite w/ the rough side showing thru portrait--addds a nice touch w/ the bubble feature showing--paints nice too any color you like


mike

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From: MSN NicknameScroller991Sent: 10/7/2006 9:15 PM
painting the masonite sounds cool, when I buy a sheet of birch ply, I also buy a sheet of luan, I cut them both into 8x10 and 11x17 pieces, I paint the luan usally spray paint it black and then I have backers for all the pieces I cut, good luck Howard

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From: beemerbobSent: 10/9/2006 5:39 PM
I just received Jeff Zaffino's DVD from 'Scroller, Ltd'. His technique is to get some velvet or the felt square's from Wall-Mart (The felt squares come in a bunch of different colors.)

Then, after the portrait has been finished, the next step is to spray a heavy coat of adhesive on the back of the portrait - wait a few minutes and then spray on another coat.

Position the portrait on the velvet/felt and press it down with some books at least for overnight drying.

Then mount it in your frame. The $2.00 frames I got from Wall-Mart had little metal tabs to hold in the picture.

If the cutting plus backer plus the paper backing in the original frame is a little thick, use a wire type hanging system

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From: MSN Nicknamewood-n-thingsSent: 10/13/2006 12:29 AM
Thanks again for all the suggestions and helpful advice...

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From: MSN NicknameKarmas-BHSent: 10/13/2006 10:55 PM
beemerbob,
In regards to using velvet, you have to be very careful in your placement if it 'good' velvet as the pile will shift things when you press it down. Velvateen(?) is just about as good but with much less pile to worry about. I didn't know any of this until I cut Sam Elliot. His entire hat hangs by a 'thread' and I felt it needed a bit of glue to hold it in the right position. Otherwise, I don't normally glue anything.

Mike,
I spray glue a backer board and attach the material to that. Either kind takes a bit of work to keep clean but I think the effect is well worth it. Really 'pops' the portrait!
Christine
PS. don't ask how many times I had to re-do Sam : (

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