Periscope

    For some reason the 35`s don`t sell well

enough for the biggies to invest the funds to

meet your request in factory loads.The 358

Win fits the bill for your thinking, it is one of

the best short range deer and bear rounds! I

see a few boxes on the shelves now and then

but reloading is it`s only true savior. To use

a 250 or 7x57 case for a 35 wildcat would

not achieve anything the 358 Win can not

do by loading up or down! The old 9.3x57

still has some fans, the 35 whelen is one of

best 35`s, Remington tried hard to make it

a standard round but folks just do not buy

35`s for some reason, do know those that

like them, like them alot, see a few of 35 Rems

in the eastern woods in opening day! I have

an old 94 Win in 38/55 that would be my pick

for such use. Think Winchester is offering

it again. If you like the 35`s and want a short

bolt rifle, get a short action Rem, Win or

Rugar and get a one barreled for 358 win!

I still see a few whelens at the gun shows, I

think a 35/284 would be great, but don` ask

the manufacters to make your ammo!

 

                                              Moos

Nice thoughts.....yes, perhaps the .358 Win is just the ticket.

 

Still....the brass from a 8x57 Mauser is a bit larger and I know that currently....there is a standard Ackley Improved 7x57.....so, increasing the shoulder angle and with a slightly larger case (SHOULD) improve 100 to 200 fps on the .358 Winchester....a round that is very good but it could be better.

 

Let me say again.....the .358's DO KICK if you launch these big bullets over 2,500 fps.  Then again......you don't HAVE to tenderize your shoulder in order to enjoy the benefits of the larger caliber.

 

I can think of nothing more effective for deer, elk and other non-dangerous big game that the 225 grn .358 bullet at 2,500 fps.  That's good for 3,100 fpe...I doubt you can find those ballistics with the .358 Win but you COULD with a possible wildcat .358 x 57 Ackley Improved.

 

 

Periscope

 

    I don`t see any problem with your idea of

a necked up 8x57 to 35, I`ve monkeyed with

the 6mm and 257 ackly improved, other than

having to fire form case`s and finding that one

perfect load, which can be a time consuming

ordeal. Some rifles show the effort worth the

time, but others do not! you can get about 4

grains of powder add with the ackly`s.I do

understand your thinking though, as I get older

I find the hard kickers less tolerable and my

youthful quest to make that perfect round that

noone has, less important due to my time and

patience has deminished! I know 8x57 brass

is plentiful, but if it was me, I`d just get the

35-284 and eleminate the ackly idea! neck her

up and go shoot! you`d get a better chance of

getting the 2500fps your hoping for! Buts thats

just me!

                                                 Moose