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General : Obama: An Illegal Alien?
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From: MSN NicknameRoadSailorAuthor  (Original Message)Sent: 12/10/2008 05:07
 
I report here. You decide.
 
RS
 

OCTOBER SURPRISE!!! Barack Obama: BORN IN THE COAST PROVINCIAL GENERAL HOSPITAL AT MOMBASSA, KENYA at 7.24 PM on August 4th 1961?

What a bombshell if true: Barack Obama,  BORN IN THE COAST PROVINCIAL GENERAL HOSPITAL AT MOMBASSA, KENYA at 7.24 PM on August 4th 1961?   I share, you decide:

Reports quote information that certified copies of a Kenyan Birth Certificate (BC) for Obama were sent from Kenya, and have been received by three separate individuals.

And that these documents are certified, with an embossed seal, and display the name of the hospital where Obama was born, as well as witness signatures.It has been asserted by a number of sources, including Andy Martin, that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii.

Philip Berg’s Latest Motion to the Court is more explicit since it gives an exact Place of Birth. I must assume that Berg did not simply pluck the Location out of thin air, Mombasa has more than one Hospital, though Coast Provincial General was the best in 1961.


British Birth Certificates have a Standard Format which has been more or less the same since 1837 and they can only be challenged in a British Court. Kenyan Law is explicit and can only be challenged in a Kenyan Court. Indonesian Law is explicit and can only be challenged in an Indonesian Court. Be clear, if Obama was born in Kenya this is not simply a matter for the US Courts, or US Law.

If he was born in Kenya, and his parents were Legally Married [which on the Preponderance of Evidence they were, his father's first "Marriage" being a Tribal, or Village, Marriage, which was not Legally Recognized] due to the age of his mother he would NOT have been a US Citizen. The Immigration and Nationality Act 1952, 8 U.S.C. 1401. Sec. 301 (g) [Effective November 14, 1986] does not apply, nor does Title III, Immigration and Nationality Act Section 309. [8 U.S.C. 1409].

Unless he has taken the Oath of Allegiance as a Naturalized Citizen since he was 18 years old, and if he was born in Mombasa, Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama II would not be a US Citizen, period. The issue of whether or not he was Natural Born under Article II of the Constitution of the United States would cease to matter and he would need to be Deported as an Illegal Alien.

If Senator Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa in Kenya at 7.24 PM on August 4th 1961, or at any other time, he is not a Natural Born Citizen of these United States and he never was. Philip J Berg, Esq, is correct, under the Nationality Act of 1940, as Revised June 1952 and in accord with United States of America vs Cervantes-Nava 281 F 3d 501 (2002) and Drozd vs INS, 155 F 3d 81, 85-88 (2d Circuit 1998) Senator Barack Hussein Obama II would not ever have been a Legal US Citizen at all, unless he was Naturalized.

If he was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa in Kenya any Certificate, or Certification of Live Birth, issued for him by the State of Hawaii is a Fraudulent and Illegal Document. At Birth he would have been a UK and Colonies Citizen and in accord with the Kenyan Constitution he would have become a Kenyan Citizen in December 1963. He would not have been a US Citizen.

Alternatively, his UK and Colonies Birth Certificate issued in Mombasa in August 1961 could be a Fraudulent and Illegal Document. The two BCs would need to be compared. By this I mean the Original Vault Copy of the Hawaiian Birth Certificate and not the Amended, Post Adoption, Copy, Legally available to the Senator, assuming he was, as indicated by the Preponderance of Evidence, Adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

This case might also need to go through the UK and Kenyan Courts and becomes a Matter of International Law and Controversy.  (From Anti-Mullah)


Thanks to reader Kassie,  here is the Plaintiff's Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and for Expedited Discovery, be sure to go read it all, but below is an excerpt from that legal document:

NOW COMES the Plaintiff, Philip J. Berg, Esquire [hereinafter “Plaintiff”] and
respectfully requests this Honorable Court to grant A Temporary Restraining Order and
for Expedited Discovery on the following grounds:

1. In order to be eligible and qualified to run for Office of the President you
must be a “natural born�?citizen. United States Constitution, Article II, Section I.

2. Barack H. Obama claims he was born in Hawaii however, his
grandmother in Kenya, brother and sister claim they were present during Obama’s birth
in Kenya.

9. After many attempts of the public to obtain Defendant’s Certificate of
Birth, a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was placed on Defendant’s campaign
website. However, as posted all over the internet three (3) independent Document
Forensic Experts performed extensive Forensic testing on the Certificate of Live Birth
posted on Defendant’s campaign website. The Forensic Expert findings were the
Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was in fact a forgery. It was further discovered the
original Certificate of Live Birth which had been altered and forged was issued to Maya
Kasandra Soetoro, born in 1970. Maya Kasandra Soetoro is Defendant’s half sister who
was born in Indonesia and her birth was later registered in Hawaii. The altered and
forged COLB is still on Defendant’s website located at http://my.barackobama.com/page/
invite/birthcert

10. Further discovery and investigation led to Defendant’s State Bar
Registration and Public Disciplinary Record. On the Illinois State Bar Registration and
Public Disciplinary Record it specifically asks for “Full former name(s). Defendant put
“None�? when in fact he went by the name Barry Soetoro and Barry Obama. It is further
believed Defendant has used the name Barry Dunham. Defendant lied on the State
government form that he signed under the penalty of perjury.

11. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is supposed to represent and
protect the interests of working Americans, which includes securing a Democratic
Nominee on the Presidential Election ballot who represents the Democratic vision and
who is qualified and eligible to run for Office of the President under the qualifications of
the United States Constitution. The DNC has failed to inquire into Obama’s eligibility
status.


OK, as I said -- I share, you decide.  Go for it!



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From: MSN NicknameElGato196Sent: 12/10/2008 05:15
I, personally, would love to see his ass found a non-citizen and deported. That would be sooooo cool for the USA!

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From: MSN NicknameRoadSailorAuthorSent: 12/10/2008 05:29
Okay, here's my thoughts (irrespective of my personal views on BHO).
 
Contrary to my other post, I am not an old fart -- I was born in 1963. However, I still have my original birth certificate and it actually looks like it was a document produced in 1963. The Obama birth certificate that I've seen looks like Hawaii printed it up this year. Where's the original? Mine has been seen by the U.S. Navy, my high school, my college, my churches (where I have been baptized, received first Communion, been  Confirmed, etc. etc.), the U.S. Passport Office,  and probably a few places else. So, I know of at least a dozen "copies" of my original birth certificate in existence. Any one of which could support my claim to be a U.S. citizen. Where's the "copies" of Obama's birth certificates? Why is the only one that we see a newly printed version from Hawaii?

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From: SargeSent: 12/10/2008 05:55
So if this is all correct, where would that leave our election that is coming up in a short while. Would Hillery be back in? Or would they just let the M----F win and the hide it all like Hillery did all her skeletons? Or would the Democrats have to come up with another nominee real quick?  Humm what a quandary.
Sarge

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From: MSN NicknameRoadSailorAuthorSent: 12/10/2008 15:41
Sarge,
 
Isn't it customary in sports to suspend the offending party (i.e., the Democratic Party) from participating within 'the game' for a certain period?
 
Let's do a Pete Rose on the Libs!

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From: MSN Nicknamekidd6Sent: 13/10/2008 14:22
I personally think if he gets elected he ??????????????im not out to hurt any one but Obama is he dont respect our country if you want to be nutearal spellet wrong i know but he needs to get out of AMERICA and go back where he came from

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From: MSN Nicknamekidd6Sent: 13/10/2008 14:23
pps i also think mccain should be in next at least he knows what war is like

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From: SargeSent: 13/10/2008 18:07
One thing I really like about McCain is he is an old man with a young and sexy wife. If she does her thing he might die happily and we will get Sara as our very first female pit bull/ president. It reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt and his "Bull Moose" party. of course I wasn't there, just read about it in school American History books.
LOL
Sarge

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From: KCOMSent: 14/10/2008 16:00

I bet that they come up with a new monkey.<o:p></o:p>

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From: Sarge [mailto:[email protected]]
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From: MSN NicknameFractaLorSent: 15/10/2008 19:35
That's worrysome - as is his own special channel on the dish network...( ch. 73 ) I did'nt see a special channel for McCain... what's that all about? Sorry if there is one and I just can't find it , I am new to the dish network ( had direct tv )...but I looked and can't find one.
                           NRA forever, Fractalor

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From: MSN NicknameRoadSailorAuthorSent: 15/10/2008 19:38
Obama is spending $1 Billion on his campain (again, one has to ask, where is that money coming from?). McCain can't afford to run a channel on Dish Network. Dish can't run a movie without charging viewers $3.99 per viewing!

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From: MSN NicknameElGato196Sent: 15/10/2008 20:36
If Obama wins, does that mean we get open season on Obama-rama-ding-dongs? LOL
 
Life Member - NRA

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From: MSN NicknameRoadSailorAuthorSent: 15/10/2008 20:52
Does poaching count?

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From: MSN NicknameJoni_Lynn_Sent: 15/10/2008 22:03
The thought that he could actually win is frightening.
Knowing how much some of the people I know and work with love him is downright scary.

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