Trying to derust or take off blue so as to reblue long guns can be a problem. Here are a couple of tips. Black Poly pipe can be had at Home Depot for a small price already cut to 2 ft or 3 ft lengths. They also have end caps that fit the plastic pipe. Get a can of ABS glue and seal the end cap on one end very completely and you have a excellent long tall container to fill with a rifle action and the derusting or deblueing compound. Oh you say that is going to be expensive to buy all that chemicals? Buy one bottle and read the label and find out what it has in it as a base. Usually some solvent. Buy a gallon of that solvent and a couple of bottles of the deruster and thin it down so it fills the container. It will take a little longer to work but it also will be cheaper.
Sarge
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From: MSN NicknameHopelessGrumpy Sent: 2/2/2007 11:52 PM
Hey Sarge,
Now, if you don't need to be delicate in removing the rust, I accidentally discovered that a mix of regular household vinegar and water, will remove rust almost like magic!!!!
I was just fiddling around one day, ran across four old rusted steel traps a coworker had given me for decorations in the hideout... They were actually just like one odd shaped clump of rust....
I didn't think they could be salvaged at all, so I plopped em in a bucket with the mix, and in two or three days, I swear, ALL RUST was gone!!!!
I told a coworker about it, and a couple months later he told me he'd mentioned it to his uncle that restores old farm tractors as a hobby.. I guess his uncle now keeps five or six GALLONS of vinegar in his shop for just that purpose, and swears by it.
Now, DON'T go using it on guns or anything fine in size, as I guess it's also the acid in the vinegar that boosts it along, for it will remove EVERYTHING, and leave a rather dull finish to it.
Ol Grumpy
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From: MSN Nicknamegbrohman Sent: 2/3/2007 4:14 PM
Sarge;
Did you ever find roll caps?
I have a small package of them. If you want them e-mail me at
[email protected]
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From: Sarge Sent: 2/3/2007 8:25 PM
My son has been looking for them at collector shows but no luck. I will e-mail you. And thanks.
Sarge
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From: Sarge Sent: 2/3/2007 8:33 PM
I'll try that vinegar. I have some car parts for one of my classic cars and need to get the rust off so I can prime and paint them. I tried other rust removers (navel jelly) and had no luck. Even sand blasting only works a little. I have done one by hand with wire wheels and emery paper, but it is a long process.
Sarge
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From: MSN NicknameLEWIS4289 Sent: 2/4/2007 6:50 AM
Sarge how many of the paper roll caps do want ? I can get you as many as you need .
Let me know were to sent them.
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From: Sarge Sent: 2/4/2007 10:57 PM
A couple of boxes would be fine for now unless they come in a 500 pack or something like that I would want one pack. I will email my addy and you can tell me how much to send to your address.
Thanks a lot.
Sarge
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From: HSMaxim Sent: 2/5/2007 11:05 AM
A cheap long plastic window planter is what I use for doing work like this. You can keep an eye on the progress without making a mess. A cheap cover can be made with a scrap of plywood or dump it into a 5 gallon bucket when not in use.
I've been using vinegar for years to clean up antique motorcycle parts.
As a side note, windex works very good for taking those fine rust specks off of chrome wheels.
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From: MSN NicknameCPTTango Sent: 2/5/2007 2:07 PM
If your real adventurious you can try using Muratic acid (POOL ACID) don't let soak long or it will disaper. The nice thing about it is plain old water nutralizes the acid. so soak them a little bit then hose them off and oil them up. Works great. I used to use it on alum wheels when i was a kid put some in a spray bottle (do it outside NEVER INSIDE) spray the wheels and rinse right after then they will be nice and clean and easy to polish....
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From: Sarge Sent: 2/6/2007 10:54 PM
Seems to me that muratic acid takes a liking to concrete too. So if you do it, don't spill it on your drive way or sidewalk or you will have a hole in it.
Sarge
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From: Sarge Sent: 2/10/2007 12:32 AM
I tried that vinegar and water on my rusty car parts. Put a whole gal of vinegar in a 5 gal bucket and then filled it with water. that made about 4 gals of liquid. Then put my car parts in it and let it set overnight and all the next day. When I finally got around to checking it all I had was some car parts with wet rust on them. Didn't work for me. So now I am back to using a drill and a wire wheel. Time consuming work.
Sarge
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From: DavidS Sent: 2/10/2007 11:21 PM
Jason'' brand makes a good rust remover
muratic (hydrocloric) acid will take off rust but it will leave the ''pores'' of steel open and will rust again easy
phosphroic acid will leave a better finish it will still rust again but not as easy as hydrocloric acid will
either can be duleted down with water
i forget the rule ''acid into water'' or is it ''water into acid?
one way is less chance of reaction
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From: MSN Nicknamellamamax145 Sent: 2/11/2007 8:18 AM
you always want to add the acid to your water...wow, I did actually learn something in high schoo chemistry class, lol.
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From: Sarge Sent: 2/11/2007 8:34 PM
Correct Acid into water. And I did not have chemistry in High School. LOL I think the reason is that when you put water on top of acid it stops the acid from precipitating. (stops the acid from fuming off it's volatile parts) Which causes a violent reaction. When acid goes into water it mixes and is not trapped by the water.
Sarge the non chemist
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From: Sarge Sent: 2/11/2007 8:37 PM
I just found some stuff in Lt. Linda's linen closet that she uses to take the water stains off the shower wall. (she does not have all those women in the shower working while she is at work like they do in the commercials, probably doesn't trust them around her husband) But what I noticed on the bottle was it said that it would take off rust too. So I sorta borrowed the bottle and today I poured some full strength on one of my car parts. Now if the rust is gone I will be happy, if it is not I will sue them. LOL
Sarge
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From: MSN NicknameShootclaybird Sent: 2/11/2007 9:00 PM
Sarge is is a part that can be sandblasted or glass beaded? If it's a part that's going to be painted you might want to try something like ospho http://www.ospho.com/index.html This stuff does work and produces good results for metal that is going to get painted.
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