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From: MSN NicknameSunniegirl620  (Original Message)Sent: 9/23/2006 10:02 PM
Bear with me, this is going to be difficult to explain without a picture. Eevie, my little red girl was literally on a "junk food diet" in her previous home. I've only had her a couple months, so any change in her feathers hasn't happened yet.  But, she's lost a few in the last couple days (perhaps molting?) and I looked closely at the larger feather (the little ones fell in the poop). So, this big feather, right along the shaft on either side for about 2mm is absolutely void of color-it's completely clear! The rest of the feather is mostly red, but looking close, there are tiny clear "spots" all over it. I don't know if this is "normal" in an ekkie or if it was because her diet consisted of things like popcorn, pretzels, peanuts, sunflower seeds, and dried peppers. Can anyone tell me if this is how a "normal" ekkie feather is supposed to look? She's not plucking or anything, I'm not worried about that, it's just the color-or lack thereof- that worries me. Every other bird we have/had had feathers that were completely colored.


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From: 1GoodBirdSent: 9/23/2006 11:56 PM
I was going to repost this and add Eclectus in the title, so the Eclectus people would notice it.....but thought I was in another group where I'm a manager and could delete the original.....I can't do it in here. 
 
I don't have an Eclectus so I can't tell you anything about what their feathers should look like.  A couple people in here do, though, so you should have some input soon.

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 9/24/2006 12:07 AM
First thing I thought of was stress marks from poor nutrition but stress marks usually are horizontal areas that are lacking color. When held up to light, you can see thru them. But I have never seen vertical marks next to the shaft. May be a similar problem since you are aware of her previous diet.  Being this soon after her change in diet these next feathers may not be the best either. I hope they are but since her diet was changed so recently her body has to absorb the nutrients for good feathers.
I don't think you have mentioned which species of ekkie she is.  Do you know?
I went to my bags of molted feathers looked at several of Diana's from before she became a plucker and they are perfect. No little streaks or holey looking places on them.
Eevie will improve but you'll have to be patient since she was fed so badly before.
Good luck.
Annie

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From: MSN NicknameZonkersMom125Sent: 9/24/2006 12:57 AM
Ok, I had to do an experiment before I responded.  I took a molted out B&G feather, severe macaw feather, and eclectus tail feather and held them up to a light.  No little holes in either the macaw feathers, but I duplicated your observation with Shannon's tail feather.  My theory is that since an eclectus has a bit different feather structure than other birds (the "fur" feathers) their feathers would wear differently than other birds.  All the little "clear" spots on Shannon's molted out larger feathers correspond to either the edges where they've been worn or on the vertical shaft where they've rubbed against other feathers.  I think diet is going to have something to do with how quickly the feathers get "ratty" looking. 
This is Shannon.  See all those black spots on his feathers?  Those are patches where his feathers have worn down.  The little turkey likes to do wing flapping inside his cage.  See the black on his shoulders/back?  That's where I rest my chin or place my hand to steady him.  Even though I wash my hands and face before playing with him, there's still enough oil on my skin to cause his feathers to wear faster in those spots. 
 
I'll bet that once you get Eevie on a better diet and she molts out all her old feathers she'll be beautiful. 

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From: MSN NicknameSunniegirl620Sent: 9/24/2006 10:50 PM
Eevie is a Solomon Island (little girl).
Viewed as  a whole, her feathers look great. She's a vibrant red, her belly is a lovely blue-violet, under her wings is an electric blue that almost looks like it should have batteries. Some of the first few feathers I found (first couple days with us) it looked like she was picking- the feathers were banged up and split. However, the cage she was in was only 18" X 18", so if she flapped, she hit the sides. Her perches were crammed in the corners, so when she turned around she smushed tail feathers. So, they were probably broken ones that she was just trying to be rid of, because the feathers since have been whole and relatively "zipped". Just the missing color and the clear spots. Someone else suggested they might be stress bars, but that they are normally black, not clear, so I figured I'd ask here.
Thanks so much for your help everyone!
 
PS- I didn't put "eclectus feathers" in the topic because we are on the "eclectus message board" so I took it for granted everyone would KNOW what I was thinking! lol. Sorry for not being clear.

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 9/24/2006 11:08 PM
<Snicker.> I went to the ekkie board to see if that's where you put it.
I read from the All Topics board so have to backtrack to see if stuff is where it oughta be. Sure enough, it is.
 
I have had a few birds with stress marks and they were not the color of the feathers but weren't black either. Maybe the color of the feathers plays a part in that. My scarlet macaw's were grey on the red tail feathers.
Annie

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From: MSN NicknameSunniegirl620Sent: 9/26/2006 11:34 PM
Heehee, I just discovered the "all topic" board - just now! I thought you had to select what board you read from. LOL I told y'all I was computer illiterate!

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 9/27/2006 12:18 AM
It isn't you. MSN does things differently than other groups sites. Sure is easier to read from All Topics, but then you have to remember to use the drop down menu above the message box to get the messages into the right category.  Doesn't take long to get into that habit.
Annie
 

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From: MSN NicknameSunniegirl620Sent: 9/27/2006 12:46 AM
The other groups I belong to on MSN only have a few different message boards and they don't have the all message option set up. Learn somethin' new every day!

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From: MSN NicknamejensbirdsSent: 9/27/2006 4:02 AM
This is a pretty severe case of stress marks on an ekkie - but do you see any similarities?
 

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From: MSN NicknameSunniegirl620Sent: 9/27/2006 6:51 PM
Ok, I finally figured out how to take a picture of them so you could see what I was trying to describe.... I taped the feathers to the window. lol Now, hopefully this pic will post and you can see what I'm looking at.
 
 
See how you can see the screen right through the middle of her feather? I know it's not a real clear pic (I have a crummy camera), but there are also little clear spots on the upper portion of this feather that didn't really come out very visible.
I don't really see any similarities to the picture of the male's stress bar feathers, does anyone else?

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From: MSN NicknameZonkersMom125Sent: 9/27/2006 10:29 PM
 
Ye olde ratty tail feather.  Looks very much like Eevie's feather, if you look down at the end where it's worn out the most.  Really hard to get a good picture of it, but that looks about the same...what do you think?
 
Shannon wants to know if Eevie has a boyfriend?  He's a Solomon Island guy.  All the other girls here are lots bigger than he is.

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From: MSN NicknameSunniegirl620Sent: 9/28/2006 6:12 PM
I can't see it! All I get is the dreaded red X.
Do I hear an internet birdie romance in the making? LOL Eevie blushed and said "Why no, I'm not currently seeing anyone" *blink blink blink*

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From: MSN NicknameSunniegirl620Sent: 9/29/2006 12:21 AM
Ah ha! I came back here later and there was the picture! YES, it looks just like Eevie's!

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