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From: MSN Nickname«Dweebinator»  (Original Message)Sent: 12/5/2003 9:42 AM
Hello all  I'm new to your community, as a matter of fact I just found it a few minutes ago.  I was doing some research about birds.  I'm delighted to have found your site it looks to be very very useful.  I'd like some advice about getting a bird.  I'm wanting to get a bird and I'm a newbie to birds also.  I've narrowed it down to two, a parakeet or a Eclectus parrot.  So far I've read that the Eclectus parrots are wonderful pets as long as they're hand fed from babies but can be a little "fiesty".  I'm wondering if I'm cut out to be a eclectus mom being new to birds?  So I've decided to brave it and ask experienced Eclectus parents what they think.
I own a small business that I run from home so I'm home most of the time.  I do have two other pets.  Debo 185lbs. St. Bernard and Suga 125 lbs. St. Bernard.  They are very very gentle.  My nephews have 2 parakeets and I had to "birdsit" them a few months ago.  Dogs did great with them, curious at first and then bored with the birds lol.  That is where it all started (wanting a bird).  Also if anyone knows of a good book for starters to birds I'd appreciate if you could pass it on to me. 
As for a personal introduction, my name is Regi, nic is Dweebs, I'm 24, married for 4 years and live in Oklahoma.  I'd bore you with all my geeky hobbies but I doubt your ready to sleep that soundly.    Look forward to your replies and getting to know the members.
 
Regi


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From: MSN NicknameRaven2076Sent: 12/5/2003 4:24 PM
Nice to meet you Regi.  I have two eckkies, Cherry and Kiwi.  I've found them to be great pets.  They definitely like to be out of their cages alot so plan on that.  I've been pretty lucky with my two, they're pretty good with my brother's dog a Lab, rabbits and my kids (5, 9 & 12).  They prefer to be handled by me but will allow mostly anyone "usually" to pick them up.  Depends if they feel like it or not.  I was told they were not "loud", not true.  They don't necessarily yell all the time, but usually early a.m. and late afternoon can be pretty noisy.  If you live in an apartment, I would not get one.  When they start screaming my neighbors can hear them and not just the ones that are close to me .  In the summer, I never leave them home with the windows up, I'm afraid someone would kill me or them, lol.  To be honest, for a "first bird" it's a pretty big commitment, they were my first although I didn't get them at the same time.  If I were to do it again, I'd probably have started with tiels which I also have, and then moved to the eckkies.  I'm not trying to turn you away from eckkies, they're great birds. Eckkies are beautiful, funny, smart, I could go on and on, but they do have a down side.  They make a huge mess (most birds do), will eat anything, wallpaper, furniture, blinds, etc... again most birds will do that also.  Just make sure you know what you're getting into.  Good luck with your decision!

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From: zoomomSent: 12/5/2003 4:39 PM

Hi Regi,
Welcome aboard! I'm sure you'll really love it here, it's a great group and
tons of info. If you're looking for some books, I recommend Birds for
Dummies, Guide to Companion Parrots, and Why does my Bird do That? Barrons
also publishes species specific books and you can find them at most pet
stores and book stores. I don't have an Eclectus, so I can't tell you what
they're like, but I'm sure there's others members that will be glad to
answer any questions you have.
My advice is to read everything you can get your hands on before finding
that special fid! There's enough surprises and challenges in bringing a fid
into your life, so an education is the best thing to have to prepare.
Good luck and let us know how your search is going!
Glad to have you here,
zoomom

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 12/5/2003 8:32 PM
Hi Regi,  Welcome to another Okie.  I live about 70 miles south of you.  (I looked at your profile )
I have a female Vosmaeri eclectus, Diana.  Got her from Penny David in Tahlequah 7 years ago. 
Please go look at my reply to Raven,  Mating??? Ekkies  a few minutes ago. 
Describes some of what we have been thru in our 7 years together.  I have several other parrots and have had many others, too.  Diana is by far the best talking bird I have ever had.  She doesn't speak in context but she does say lots of words and phrases.  She never ever screams.  One loud shout when the house is full of people but nothing like a scream.  Mainly if someone leaves the room without saying 'Bye" to her. Our house is very quiet, my kids are grown and gone so people aren't making a racket for her to copy.  She hums when I laugh out loud. She says, "Come here" when I pat a dog and make that slapping sound.  She quacks, gobbles, caws and makes other animal sounds all thanks to my odd Hubby.
Knowing what I know now about the likelihood of the females getting very cranky at maturity, I would recommend a male ekkie or another species of bird, especially as a first bird.
The books Zoomom suggested are good ones.  There is one called Eclectus by Roger Sweeney that is pretty good but very small. Pretty expensive, too.
There is a good website to read about them called Land Of Vos.  Lots of dietary info and good general stuff.
Drop by often and be sure to let us know which species you decide on.
Annie

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From: MSN NicknameMom2Critters®Sent: 12/5/2003 9:35 PM
Hi, and welcome. I don't have an Ekkie either, so I can't give any specific advice about them, but I do have budgies. They are fabulous little birds. Highly underrated. They can become quite loving and talkative with enough attention. Tiels are another way to go. Great choices for a first bird.

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From: MSN NicknameZonkersMom125Sent: 12/6/2003 3:19 AM
I think ekkies are wonderful companions, I have a little SI male named Shannon that has owned me for the past year and a half.  He is not a high-energy bird like my macaws or sun conure, but he is active and loves to be the center of attention without making a fuss about it.  He is only loud when the other birds are loud, his normal mode of communication is soft words or sounds, or little bits of songs he's learned.  He has a beautiful singing voice, except when he's imitating the sun conure.  Much more pleasant attention getters than squawks.  He's not hard on his toys, but I've found that his favorites are the easy to destroy thin wooden ones like popsicle sticks.  His idea of cuddling is to lean his beak against my cheek, or his body against my arm.  He's the kind of guy that is just as happy hanging out with you reading a book as he is playing "fetch the toys so I can throw them again".  Shannon is just coming out of his first bout of hormones, and if he hadn't been feeding his toys and acting a bit more amorous towards them I'd have never known it...although I have read of some males being as feisty as the females during that time.  Land of Vos has some excellent information on eclectus parrots, and I think that there's a chat board on that site where you can browse through old posts and see what kind of issues other folks have had with eclectus as a first bird.  Mom2 is correct about budgies...a hand tamed little one can be just as rewarding as a larger bird.  Active, fun loving, and overall happy little guys.  I have both budgies and an ekkie, and I think the biggest difference between them is the amount of food they eat and the size of the mess they make.  And the energy level...my budgies can wear me out just watching them play.  Hard choice to make...I love the budgies' energy but also love the stately companionship of my little green guy.
 

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From: MSN Nickname«Dweebinator»Sent: 12/8/2003 1:19 AM
Well ........... we took the leap.  Luckily my sister works at the Omniplex here in Oklahoma and I was able to talk with some people that run the adopt a pet program for kids.  Met with a parakeet and a cockatoo.  I handled both, talked with a few owners and teachers about parakeets and eckies, their habits and what to expect.  Rolled it over with the hubby (who is partial to Parakeets since his mother has always had them) and we went to the pet store and looked at even more birds.  We finally decided on a beautiful blue Parakeet that I named Nût (pronounced like Nute) after the Egyptian sky goddess.  We've been able to handle her, the dogs have sniffed her out and apparently approve.  She doesn't really know what to think of the dogs yet but I'm sure she'll feel comfortable soon enough.  She is still skitish but she doesn't bite you unless you hold her wrong (not letting her just perch on your finger).  I'm very happy with our decision and I think she'll be another happy familiy memeber.  Thanks for all the advice and I'll keep you posted on our trials and accomplishments. 
  

 

Here she is being held by her daddy as I snapped a quick shot.


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From: MSN NicknameMom2Critters®Sent: 12/8/2003 2:15 AM
Awww, what a pretty little birdy. Congratulations! You're off to a great start already. Any questions, just yell.

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From: MSN NicknameBirdlady7777Sent: 12/8/2003 3:31 AM
Aww!  What a little peanut!  I love budgies (I have two...Bullwinkle and Periwinkle)...they are so cute and can be so much fun!  Bullwinkle loves when I pick him up, he flops over in my hand, puts his little feet in the air and just lies there while I rub his head ... anyhow, congratulations and I know you'll have years of fun with her!
 
Christine

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From: MSN NicknameRaven2076Sent: 12/8/2003 5:49 AM
Congrats on your new little bird, sure is pretty! 

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From: picaSent: 6/19/2004 6:23 PM
hi Reji,
 
i have just brought home a 7 month old Eclectus 3 days ago!!, i've read for at leat 5 months prior and this is also my first bird.  I've decided on an eekie because of all the articles i read stating that it's a very calm bird, who very intelligent and can talk very well ( depending on the bird as with any kind), I was waiting for a B&G eggs since Fev but the pair never go to it lol, Let me tell you thta i'm verrry happy with the turns of things.  Tobi is absolutly adorable, he vocalises a few time in the morning and in the evening aroud 5-6hrs but they are not screams. He's very affectionate, both my husband and I can handle him with no problem., and within 15 min my two dogs (lab and collie-germ shepp)tough he was just another member of family. We're extremely happy with our decision.  One good advice for you (thta's what we did and i think it really paid off)

Once we bought him we left him at the pet shop for 1 1/2 weeks and visited him every day, handling him, talking to him and bringing him fruit salad. When we picked him up he was already bonded with us so the transition at home was a breeze.

Good luck on you decision.  ps I think any kind of bird will be special cause they all have personnalities and have a way of making us fall in love with them .

Pica


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From: SensualHeartSent: 6/13/2005 9:14 PM
Hi! I can honestly say if you have never had a parrot to start out smaller. Parrots are the most intelligent animals you will ever come to know. They sense when you are having a bad day, or fear them, and they will act just as you do. My suggestion is go to a bird breeder or store where they have birds you can handle. Get used to being around them first. Thats exactly what I did. A tiel would be nice to start out with. They are fun, they can whistle songs and cuddle with you. Also, a pionus is a great parrot to begin with, but there again they have a parrot attitude and can make you fear. My pionus blueberry has taught me lots, but I did research for 3 years, and got around all species of parrots before I chose. Hope this helps..Remember ..take your time, and make a wise choice..you will have to live with your choice for many many years.

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