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From: XtraMSN Nicknamekellomal  (Original Message)Sent: 13/05/2008 5:58 a.m.
He went to court this morning and a few hrs after he left, the Police rang me to tell me they had caught him shop lifting. He literally walked from the court and straight into a shop and stole. His explanation was-------well it was raining and I had no jacket so I took one.
The police who brought him home were telling me WHAT A NICE LAD HE IS------can you believe this. I exploded with them and asked them what kind of a message were they giving him---that its ok to steal. They clearly thought it was all my fault and he is just bored. Well im feeling bored at the moment so maybe I'll go and get myself a nice new car!!!
P believes all this is H fault.H has always seen him for what he is and has nothing to do with him.P blames H behaviour for his and says he has ruined his life and everything was ok until H came along.He also says H kicked his 18yr P brother out the house and is trying to do the same with him--------he knows exactly what to say to really hurt me and I am even questioning H actions. My head is just whirling.
Kel


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From: XtraMSN Nicknamepandora721Sent: 13/05/2008 7:09 a.m.
Hi kel..............STOPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!
 
You are disorientated just here......take a deep breath, calm down......whatever it takes to clear your head.
 
Your other son is a whole different ball game.....
 
This son has no coat...how old is he?>......he has no coat cos you didn't provide him with one????.he is a male version of cinderella and your H is the wicked step mother?
 
A guess here???.....You abandonned the son cos you refused to attend court with him.so, he is going to make you pay.so on his way home from court, he steals a coat......bet it wasn't a coat from a charity shop then??.bet it had a "name"?...so the police think you are to blame.cos P kid told them so..cos you didn't even attend court........which was also for stealing??......and all because your H controls you and forced to to run from another country.also abandonning another child...Ps elder brother who he misses and loves but isn't allowed contact with cos H says so??...no wonder the poor misguided P son is off the rails here...sorry, the police in your area might just buy all this crap.........I heard similar from my own P kid.and I don't buy it.
 
Sorry kel.....but I think its going to take your son doing something really serious here  before  anyone really looks at his situation and does something about it.
 
Are this kids actions a copy of his elder brother?
 
I know its hard, try and find something that can give you a bit of peace here.,..even if its only a cup of coffee in a local cafe.anything to help you calm down a bit. hugs.

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From: XtraMSN NicknamekellomalSent: 13/05/2008 9:11 a.m.
Hi Pandora,
Thanks for that----I really needed a reality check.
He is so devious and manipulative and I should know better than to let him get to me.
Thanks again and hugs to you
Kel

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamepandora721Sent: 13/05/2008 10:40 a.m.
Hiya.I think its time as a so called civilised society that we stop looking for excuses for what our kids do.like, he had a hard childhood, he wasn't loved......so what?......even if these things were true its no excuse for the behaviour everybody pays for in the long run.
 
I have a saying I used to say to my kids growing up..don't let yesterday spoil tomorrow.......
 
The police and social services will eventually see the light here........P son can't help himself.he goes to court for stealing and on the way home he steals again then confuses the situation by giving the poor me stuff again.take it they are pressing charges over the shoplifting stuff..?
 
P son seems to be in a pattern....commits a crime then goes and be nice to the police or anybody else..only a matter of time before he does more of this.they will see him for what he is. Hows the H?

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From: XtraMSN NicknamekellomalSent: 13/05/2008 2:26 p.m.
This is so so true Pandora---about making excuses.
When I think back to my childhood it really was awful and yet I am not a devious nasty person and neither is my brother. You have really struck a cord here with me---thankyou---I feel like I am seeing the light.
Kel

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From: XtraMSN NicknameVera206Sent: 14/05/2008 11:20 p.m.
Mothers get blamed for everything,,,,,,,,I have seen that played out in so many arenas. One little thing that we do not do perfectly and "we are responsible for WWI, WWII and all other wars".

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From: XtraMSN NicknamesparkysmoonladySent: 25/05/2008 1:03 p.m.
Ah yes Vera
 
We mothers are so powerful the weather needs our permission
 
Kel - I'm glad you got to vent like that - just let it all hang out - even though to be honest I'm not quite sure what it was about
 
The good thing is you exploded in an appropriate group - we are people who understand you and what's happening
 
I remember that for a time the local police were my best friends during weekends and holidays when all the people in the suits and nice dresses went home
 
His last New Year - what a hell of a New Years Eve
 
I got a call from the police that they had P in the lock up and would I come and get him
 
I said "No" but I did go to the Police Station to tell them and they had a quiet little chat with P - and I could hear them yelling at him
 
"You've got a great mother Mate!! One of the best. A lot of boys would kill to have a mother like yours and you treat her like shit. You are killing her Mate. Mate - get your act together."
 
If they hit him - I still don't care
 
He was unco-operative and I said to the police
 
"If I take him home he will be off straight away - I can't control him and his father is having one beer after and other just like every other New Year. Everyone will be better off with him in the lockup tonight"
 
It was his last New Year and he spent it in the lock-up - there are worse places
 
We do have to make a stance with these brats. They might look like adults but they are still brats
 
Kel - he might be doing his angel act with the local constabulary atm - but they will see under that shiny duco any time
 
Cultivate the local police - they will learn and they might just be your best friends at times too
 
Sparky - Lin

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