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From: XtraMSN Nicknamelauralan1  (Original Message)Sent: 28/05/2008 5:06 p.m.
I just joined and am wondering if I'm in the right group.  My 37 yr. old daughter has finally pushed my last button and I made the decision that instead of walking on egg shells when we are together, I've had enough.  She lives in another state, never has never been engaged, has a good job, but lots of issues with friendships.  I've taken verbal abuse, like "when we go inside to my friend's house, I don't want you to embarrass me."  That hurt a lot.  She is rude, feels superior, lacks compassion, feels entitled and is very selfish.  There has never been an issue of physical abuse.
 
The last straw was on her last visit a few days ago, she liked a new painting I inherited and wanted it.  I told her she couldn't have it.  The day after she left to return home, the painting was gone and another picture in its place.
 
I was crushed, angry and felt a lot of other emotions.  I called her, got the answering service and demanded that the painting be returned that day and I wanted a list of whatever else she stole.  I reinforced this with an email and told her our relationship was damaged, I felt I couldn't trust her any longer and was fed up with her lack of respect, and hoped that we could have a better relationship in the future.  When she responded, it was to say the painting was in the mail, there was no word of apology and she went on to let me know how I make her and everyone else crazy because I'm so demanding.  It ended with her telling me if I didn't want her in my life to say it.  I didn't respond because I think that is better than getting in a word brawl which will not end in any resolutions.
 
Her attitude began changing when she was around 16 and it's like she's not comfortable in her own skin--very restless and has to have everything on a strict time schedule and definitely has problems with coworkers and supervisors now.
 
I looked at the list of signs and she does have some of them.   Some of the messages I've read are so much more drastic situations than mine, I'm not sure if I beong in the right group.  I would appreciate any advice anyone has to offer.
 
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From: XtraMSN NicknamefemfreeSent: 28/05/2008 7:00 p.m.
HI Lauralan. So, you've had the last straw - several in fact. Did you do anything about the picture?
 
I don't really agree very much with your approach in how you handled the picture situation. But I'll bet a couple of things will happen.  1. she will get rid of the picture and leave you with egg on your face with baseless accusations. 2. try to make you look like an idiot.
 
This is a good group for you to learn and I would also recommend our larger N and P group as your child is a grown woman now and I shudder to think if my son did and said what you are allowing your daughter to do.
 
What I predict will happen is that she will get rid of the picture and she will go around to people telling them what an evil mother you are by accusing her of terrible things and just look at the awful email she sent me.
 
50/50 as to whether or not they believe her.
 
A basic rule is never put anything in writing to these people. And, if she still has your picture, call the police or walk in there yourself and take it back.  Treat her exactly the same as you would somebody who is not your child. You have limited and primitive boundary skills.
 
 
 
 

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamelauralan1Sent: 28/05/2008 9:04 p.m.
My daughter did, in fact, mail the painting back to me and is now hanging back in place.
 
I was so livid that she stole it, I told my husband if it wasn't returned, I would be tempted to file theft charges against her, but in my heart, I don't think I could have done that.  She always refers to me as Mommy Dearest after the movie with Joan Crawford.  This may be way before your time, but the movie was based on how she treated her children--mean.
 
If my daughter and I ever do have any relationship, I don't think I will ever quite feel like I can trust her.   It's like always having to keep my guard up, pretty much like walking on eggs, and is probably how most everyone else in this group feels.  I can't understand why I feel so guilty and suppose it's a good thing she lives far away because I won't be running into her to be ignored or anything like that.
 
I can see this is a very supportive group and appreciate being able to vent like this.
 
Thank you.
 
 
 

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From: XtraMSN NicknamefemfreeSent: 29/05/2008 3:59 p.m.
HI Lauralan. All I can suggest is to wait until she calls you. Don't call her and watch our for bait in her conversations or projecting and blaming you  for what she does wrong.
 
Then, you might try something like "D, this is becoming annoying, everytime we discuss something you begin to blame me. If you blame me again, that just proves my point. Can we have a discussion without you blaming me?"
 
That's my suggestions for you. Such an awful situation. May be best to meet   in some public location as they are usually much better behaved where there is an audience. 
 
Q. I'm afraid if I use verbal boundaries he'll become enraged. What I can do about that?
We suggest anticipating this reaction by saying something like "P, you sometimes become angry when we discuss [topic] P. If you get angry P that just proves my point. Can you remain calm while we discuss this P?" Using this tactic you establish the need for a rational, calm discussion, and by asking a Yes/No question you establish your control of the situation. At all times we keep our voice at a normal conversational level, remain very calm, show no emotion. Speak slowly without anger or aggression. Remember, although intelligent in his occupation, he is emotionally equivalent to a 5-year old's tantrum and the key is to ignore hurtful comments "We'll discuss this when you aren't so upset". P still raging? Calmly leave the room. P's rage because of their disorder. They want a reaction. Don't give them one.

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