Sorry to hear you're going through so much right now. You don't say how old the child is. Reading and venting here lessens the burden you bear, a little anyway. Medication for the child may also help the situation. Do you have to wait long for the psychiatrist appointment? It's at times like this, we all wish the years would fly by in a day - if only to put an end to the present stresses.

Hi Indigo...sorry things are hard at the moment..........I am having problems with my daughter too. We have her 18 month old baby living with us and my daughter sent  police and social services here after the daughter made all sorts of allegations about us.abusing her, abusing the baby etc. Even the doctor told us.good luck with her.as did the police and social services..........and I took it that they fully understood what a difficult time we were having and sympathised with us....they took no further action to remove my grandson......they tried to help us whilst working within the limits of the law.which unfortunately the law is stacked against us.so, don't despair, you may not have found them helpful but they didn't do anything against you either, did they?

Genie is right, I had a similar situation a few weeks ago.  My daughter continues to use the internet in her attempt to destroy me.  When she included a dear friend of mine that didn't do anything to her I went to the authorities and asked them if they could talk to her.  The officer I was speaking to, said that although she wasn't doing anything illegal, he knew my daughter and had dealings with her in the past, and knew what she was like.  He did say that he would of course talk to her..which only fueled the fire and her next entries on her public blog were worse, and her boyfriend put his two cents in on his blog and it snowballed to where he revealed information that was questionable and he's now in trouble with the law.  Of course, as you all know only too well....I'll be blamed for it.  In fact the blame game has started, my oldest son created a new email address to send an article about someone sentenced to one year in jail for using the internet to harass and turn his girlfriend's life upside down.  What that has to do with me I don't know. 

 

I wanted to rip into him, but that would only add to this insanity, so I forwarded his email to his provider, included all email headers showing the originating IP address and explained that I have blocked him, and on two occasions told him in writing that I wanted no contact from him, including email.  Let them deal with it.

 

Dancer

hiya kell.........I know all of this feeling only too well..........I look long and hard at my grandson to see if I can see any P traits  like his mother. She was always different even as a  small child...you don't say how old the younger child is.anyway, I look long and hard..but, what can I do?.we can have all this grief now and he ends up exactly like her.which will also mean that I will be almsot 60 when he is the same age as she is now......I wonder what I will do then...will I feel cheated of everything if /when I come to realise I wasted my time trying to save him from his mother.....the only answer I have come up with is that I have to try and give him the benefit of the doubt and if he is the same then I will have to deal with that as and when aswell........so for now I try to enjoy the day.whatever it brings me....and I treat every day with him as a special day cos I just don't know how long it will last. I have come to the realisation that if my daughter manages to get custody of her son then we will all have to say goodbye to him and there will be nothing else we can do to save him......and the thought of that happenning is terrifying..so for now I will just soldier on........the whole world can think what it likes.....I just want to protect my grandson and I will do whatever it takes.....and sooner or later most rational people will see my daughter for what she is. The P daughter is sooooo stupid and sooo easy to catch her out in a lie........it only took so long for the penny to drop with all of us here cos we all love her, the general public.even if she usually only associates with the rejects of society.won't be as tolerant of her I think.

The child in question is 12.  Thankfully they got him into the psychiatrist right away...his first appointment in this monday.

 

we've begun to keep a 'behavior log' to document these incidences so that the councellor and pyschiatrist can see the patterns.

 

the worst of it is never being sure if people are going to SEE what he really is like or it they are going to believe his manipulations.

 

I told the child protective agency lady that I was glad she'd talked to us and met us...because at least now it's established that he had made false alligations.....hopefully they will be less likely to be believed in the future.

 

Indigo

I don't know where you live or how your insurance is. But if I was you, I would check out one of these inpatient psychaitric facilities for teenagers. The kid has to agree to be there...but it gets him away from you and your hubby for awhile to defuse the situation at home and might help him too. When my daughter was 15 or 16 (I try not to remember)...she ran away and was gone for a long time....when we finally found her and I knew there was big issues with her. I got her into one of these places and I think it totally saved everybody at the time...it was a Godsend. She liked it, because she got lots of attention. We lived in Florida at the time and this place was in Tampa....I believe it was called "Tampa Bay Academy"....our insurance covered it fully, she got help, it helped our family, we visited her on weekends...I think she got to stay for 2 months or more....It bought us some time/sanity anyway. I bet they have these places in other states too. Just thought it might be worth checking out...he sounds out of control. Take Care d.j.