Hi Liz,If Peter Joined The Staffordshire Regiment,He would have Enlisted In the Area of Birth,Staffordshire Is the Wolverhampton Area of England.I will Check to see If any Military Records.There Is a Large area to cover there

 

Mike

Hi Liz,I have Contacted a Mr Massey at theRegimental Museum,In Staffordshire.To see if he can put Light to him.Via his Regimental Record.Please Bear With Me And Lets Hope Mr Massey Replies.I feel he will.So please look out For any Info

 

Mike

Liz, do you have marriage Certificate in case it has his birthplace on it. I gather his death certificate didn't either.

The other place to determine his place of birth (if military records don't have it) is his shipping records for entering Australia.

the other place you might put an enquiry is on Monaro Pioneers site where Bombala Pioneers and residents are being recorded. He isn't listed there presently but if you put up what you know it grows. i found my great grandparents there and the only branch missing was mine.

 

I did a quick check in Archives in NSW, Australian and commonwealth war graves to no avail. I hope mike turns up your man in military.

Suzannd (Mackay, Qld)

Mike & Sue,  Many thanks for your replies - so quick!

 

Mike,   Soldiers coming into australia were not listed by name on immigration records only the regiment on board the ship.  The 80th regiment came on quite a few ships over 6 years or so

 

Sue.  Yes I have a copy of his marriage certificate and there is absolutely no info on it other than the church where he married and his wifes name

I thought that marrying in the presbyterian scots church may mean he was scottish but I don't know where the name Baldry comes from

I also have copy of death certificate which has no extra details except his age and place of death

I am doing this tree for a dear friend and this is the last gap to fill if possible

Hoping someone will know of him or be connected to the same family.

 

thanks again.............Liz

Sorry forgot to say that I know about the Monaro pioneers site and have contributed quite a bit of info to it - wonderful site.  I may resort to a message there very soon as I have only been looking for his place of birth for a couple of days and it is all very new

 

Mike   are you saying that a person who joined Staffordshire volunteers is very likely to be english?  Would it be unlikely that a Scot or Irish person would join?

Do you know if Baldry is an english name as I have never heard it before

 

thanks again for your wonderful help............Liz

Liz It is Possible As they may have been MovedFrom one regiment to another.It is quite a common thing.Hope fully We will Get answers From There Museum.

The Name Baldry Is more an English Name.But there again You Can Find it In other Parts of the uk

 

Mike

Liz going Back To the 60s There was A singer Named Long John Baldry.You may Remember the Name Sang a song Called Let the Heartaches Begin [lol]Think he Aimed the song At all of us

Mike

Liz there may be a small chance that,Peter Baldry, Was Originally From Ireland.As The 80th Foot were in Cork Before going to Australia.But they were all volunteers from stafford.This is what Read via Messages on Net.We know Marriage was 1841.So it was The last year the Regiment was there.So he Looks like he opted out to remain in Australia.Either That Or did a Runner Lol

Mike

 

In 1836 the Regiment left for New South Wales where it acted as Guards for the convicts. Between 1837 and 1841 the Regiment was based at Windsor, New South Wales, with detachments deployed throughout the colony.

Late in 1837 the Acting Governor of the Colony, Colonel Kenneth Snodgrass ordered Major James Nunn to lead a detachment against the Kamilaroi tribe. In late Jan 1838 Major Nunn, leading an Ensign, three Sergeants and nineteen troopers down the Gwydir River, Came across a  great many Aborigines. After a Corporal attempted to arrest an Aboriginal native, in response to which he was speared in the calf, a chain of events occurred which became known as 'The Slaughterhouse Creek Massacre'. This was the last Military Action undertaken by British troops against the Aboriginal population.

During 1839 Major Thomas Bunbury was forced to suppress a mutiny within his own men whilst Commander of Norfolk Island.

80th
 Staffordshire Volunteers 13/11/1836 from Cork the 80th Regiment left for Sydney. This comprised of only the first detachment. The remainder of the detachments leaving Cork on the 18th of December 1838. Detachments were deployed to Norfolk Island and some to New Zealand. Eventually reuniting in Sydney in 1844, the Regiment sailed for India on the 12th of August 1844.
 1837
 1844
 yellow  pointed pairs

Liz He was Definately in The 80th Foot Regiment,I have found a listing With his Name.You will Find In Brackets.As the Guy who Is listing The site.Has Email Address Try Asking Him For any Details He may Have.Always worth a shot

 

Back to Surnames of the 80th Regiment Soldiers who stayed
The Soldiers listed below ( in the alphabetical section ) represent the soldiers who were in Australia on Garrison Duty. It is unsure if they settled. If it is confirmed they will be given their own page and be listed above. The list of names has come from many areas, Military records of the Regiment , Pay rolls, Pay Musters, Cemetery Records, Church Records & General Muster Records etc etc . Many soldiers transferred from Regiment to Regiment

This list is still being compiled and will take a long time to complete. If the letter is not linked it is not yet complete.
A vast amount of assistance in compiling this list was given by Ken Larbalestier [email protected] it is with much thanks we add the information he supplied and typed.
If not for his work and assistance many soldier would never have been listed.

BAILESS John , . BAILEY Charles, . BAILEY John, . BAILEY Thomas, . BAKER Thomas, . BALDRY Peter, .[ BALDRY Peter], . BALLARD Charles, . BANDY James, . BARCLAY Hugh , . BARGEE John , . BARHAM Robert , . BARKER Isaac , . BARKER John J. , . BARKER R. , . BARKER Stephen , . BARLOW James, . BARNE Josiah, . BARNETT James, . BARNETT Thomas, . BARTON James, . BARTON Robert, . BATES Henry, . BATES Thomas, . BATHE Thomas, . BATHGATE

 

 

I found Name Under 8oth Mounted

Liz You Should Be able to Get Info from the Muster Books At your Archives.He is Listed In the Pay Muster Book.

He Would Definately be Listed In the English Archives to

 

Mike

Mike,  Many thanks for all this info.  I had already accessed this site as I have known the person who started it for a couple of years and his site is fantastic as he has put so much work into it

 

I know our archives in n.s.w. have PRO records on film from england but the problem is that they are very difficult to follow as they are in original handwriting and often faded and difficult to read and also some of them are out of sequence

I went through them for my gg grandfather who was with the 99th regiment of foot (Lanarkshire reg.) a couple of years ago to find the ship he came on and more info but you need extremely good eyesight to read these film records and unfortunately I do not have this luxury any more

I am also unable to travel into the city as I am not very mobile.

Another family member is going to check these out as soon as she can but she lives in the country a long way from sydney but is going to do it in the future so we may have to wait

This Barrie Chapman has done a tremendous job with listing british soldiers who came here and he is giving them their own page if people send him enough info on any particular soldier so they will not be forgotten

The poor soldiers were not always treated very well either & if they did anything wrong they were punished severely.

I have also been in contact with Ken and he is a fountain of knowledge.

thanks again for all your trouble..............Liz

Hi Liz I had a reply from Jim Massey for you

 

Dear Michael,

Thank you for your e-mail. We do not hold any records of individual
soldiers, they have always been held centrally.

Please read the attached letter and write to the National Archives in
Kew. They should be able to give you basic details such as date of
enlistment and date of discharge. Sometimes they have dates of service
abroad.

The 80th regiment served in Australia from 1837 - 1844 and served in New
South Wales, New Zealand, Norfolk Island and I think they were also in
Queensland. They were mainly involved in providing detachments to guard
convict work parties.

When you have the dates of Peter Baldry's service, please get back in
touch and we will try and pass on details of where the 80th were.

Yours sincerely

Jim Massey

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Maj (retd) J.B.Massey

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Regimental Secretary

RHQ The Staffordshire Regiment

(The Prince of Wales’s)

Whittington Barracks

Lichfield

Staffordshire

WS14 9PY

Phone 01543 434392

Fax 01543 434391

Email: regimentalsecretary

@staffords.army.mod.uk

 

 

Dear Sir or Madam, 1 July 2007

Service Records

For any enquiry of a servicemen before 1921, you are advised to try:-

The National Archives

Kew

Richmond

Surrey

TW9 4DU

For service enquiries from 1921, please try:-

Army Personnel Centre

Historic Disclosures

Mailpoint 400

Kentigern House

65 Brown Street

Glasgow

G2 8EX

The website of the Army Museum’s Ogilvy Trust also gives useful advice on ancestor training :�?

www.armymuseums.org.uk

It is helpful if you have the subject’s:-

Full name

Date of birth

Place of birth

Army number

 

 

When you have this, you are welcome to contact our Museum Attendant, Willie Turner, for information about where the Regiment or Battalion was and what they did. In the case of WW1 enquiries, we have many of the Battalion war diaries, which can be photocopied.

We usually charge £10 for this.

 

Yours sincerely

Hi Liz im sorry if The last message was a bit distorted,I should Have Pated to Notepad first But This was the Attachment

 

Mike

Mike,   many thanks - I think I will forward these details on to the young family member who is also researching this Peter BALDRY as I am not related but doing it for a friend who does not have a computer

She can follow it up further & pay for any records needed if she wants

 

 

all your help is much appreciated

 

Liz