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Pam in 1855 Kevin Izod ODOHERTY was living in Paris,There is info of one of his fellow Irishmen a John O Leary.Living with him. So im Sure we need to Check French Records somehow for the birth Not sure how we go about that one Mike |
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Wondering if Mary "Eva" travelled with him to Paris or whether she remained in Ireland. Is there any way of finding which county on Irelan she resided in? Pat |
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oops, that should have been County in Ireland. Need to get some sleep. Pat |
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Hi Pat No I tried to find her in Dublin,Nothing in the Registry.So im presuming she went with him.Below is the Civil Register for France Unfortunately Dont know much French.So im unable to Follow it.I tried the IGI Records but nothing.If he was there in 1855 im presuming he had his Family there.Thats maybe why we cant find him in Ireland as he was Barred.From the Brish Isles.Im really surprised there is no Family tree on him as he was such an important Person. The other Possibility was she was with her Parents in Galway. Now thing is Marian our Manager lives in Galway.I wiill Find out from her as to Where the Birthplace was Or where its near Mike registres d'état-civil |
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Pat They Both fled to Paris. cratic days of the colony the Irish Catholics were fortunate in having a valiant defender on the judicial bench in the person of Sir Roger Therry, whose vigorous addresses and well-reasoned pamphlets did much to stem the tide of intolerance that at one time threatened to flood the country. For kindred services to the faith of his fathers in subsequent days, Sir Patrick Jennings, the Prime Minister of New South Wales last year, was highly honored by the late Sovereign Pontiff. Besides being in the front rank of the politicians of the parent Australian colony, Sir Patrick continues to sturdily champion the interests of Catholicity, when assailed from time to time for political or party purposes. At the present time (April, 1887) he is attending the Imperial Conference in London as the representative delegate of the senior colony of Australasia. Queensland, though the youngest of" the colonies, is not without its roll of distinguished Irishmen. At the head of its list of honor stands the valued name of the Hon. Kevin Izod O'Doherty, M.D. The doctor's first exile to Australia, as most people know, was the reverse of voluntary, for he was sent out by the British Government in a convict ship, in company with honest John Martin, under a sentence of ten years' transportation for his connection with the events of '48. The year 1854 brought a conditional pardon to such of the Irish exiles as had not escaped to the " land of the free and the home of the brave." Liberty was given them to reside anywhere " out of the United Kingdom." Dr. O'Doherty then took up his residence in Paris, and very justifiably ignored the condition attached to the Queen's pardon, in snatching a stolen visit to his native city of Dublin, and returning to the continent with a faithful and gifted bride-" Eva," the poetess of the Nation-who had promised the young medical student Page 318 when he was going into captivity, that she would wait for him, and who had devotedly kept her word. Two years later the pardon was made wholly unconditional, and Dr O'Doherty, after spending some time in Ireland, resolved to establish his home in the new colony of Queensland, which had just been called into existence. Brisbane, the capital of the infant state, presented him with a seat in the Legislative Assembly, where for years he showed in a marked manner the innate capacity of the Irishman to work with perfect harmony a complete system of local self-government in a mixed community. The doctor has himself given an interesting and humorous account of his first entry into colonial political life. " When I had been only a short time in the colony, and before I had connected myself in any way with public affairs, I was bodily laid hold of and forced into public life, simply because I was known as an Irish exile. I warned my friends who had invited me to take part in public affairs that I was no orator, and that all I could do was to give them an honest vote, but they replied that that was all they wanted, an honest vote being a great deal better than a glib tongue with no honesty in it. A stalwart Irish Orangeman went round and got signatures to the requisition inviting me to stand, and another Protestant, a wealthy native of the colony, insisted on proposing my election, not only on that, but on every subsequent occasion, during the six years that I represented the constituency of Brisbane. It must not, however, be imagined that all the Orangemen in the colony were like my friend. I had rather a comical experience to the contrary. On the day of the first election, before the result of the poll was declared, I had to attend a meeting at some distance from Brisbane, and on my way back that night, meeting on the road a car coming from the Page 319 town, I shouted to one of the occupants, ' Pray tell me how the election has gone on ?' 'Oh,' said the person addressed, with a fine North of Ireland brogue, 'bad enough. That b--y Papist, O'Doherty, has got in.' This story, however, would not be complete if I did not add that this same man, black Northern as he was, voted for me at the next election, and, moreover, became a very good patient of mine." The doctor was subsequently invited by the Governor of Queensland and the Executive Council to take a seat in the Legislative Council, and he continued to be a member of that chamber up to the date of his departure from the colony. From the beginning of his Australian career Dr. O'Doherty has been an avowed Irish Nationalist, and the acknowledged leader of his countrymen in Queensland ; but, though he never concealed the strength of his convictions on the great question that lay nearest to his heart, he at the same time never forfeited the goodwill and esteem of his fellow-citizens of other nationalities. They, in fact, admired him all the more for his life-long consistency in being, to quote the phrase of one of themselves, "as ardent in the cause of his youth as though his head were still untouched by the snows of time." The crowning honour conferred by the Irish in Australia on this true and tried champion of the liberties of their race, was on the occasion, of the great Irish-Australian Convention held in Melbourne towards the close of 1883, when delegates from all parts of the southern continent and the adjacent islands assembled in force, and enthusiastically elected the aged " Young Irelander " to the presidential chair. |
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Pat i Can now understand why he was elected for County Meath,Found out Headfort is in the North of Galway.IT borders County Mayo Mike |
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Pat you may want to contact the Church For Marys Baptism Cert.Its in the Parish Of Tuam The Chuch of Assumption The Presbytery, Dublin Road Tuam, County Galway. Telephone : 00353 93 24250 Facsimile: 0035393 24355 |
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Pat I had a reply From The national Library.They Have records there But for Viewing only. Will post there Reply Shortly Mike |
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Thanks for all your work on this one Mike. Pat |
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This is there Reply Not very helpfull really Mike Thank you for your email. The National Library of Ireland has a number of sources for genealogical research, including copies of the Roman Catholic parish registers on microfilm. Full details of our resources are available on our website, at http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspxWe also offer an introductory Genealogy Advisory Service to personal callers to the library, advising on the available resources. We do not, however, offer a research service. I am attaching a list of professional researchers who can be commissioned to carry out research on a fee-paying basis, which may be of interest. I hope this information is of assistance. Best regards, Katherine McSharry Librarian on Duty |
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Pat There only interested in Making Money For Research.Just a little nod in the right Direction would help.. I still think Somehow we need to find them in Paris,If He was not allowed to be in the british isles.I think when he went back to Paris the children born there. I will search for ways to help on this Mike |
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Pat The obit Does not give Much away Mike |
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He was Jailed in Newgate prison in London Untill His Trial Mike |
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Hi Pat,I have had a really usefull bit of information sent to me Reguarding KEVIN O DOHERTY Mike Thank you for your e-mail regarding kevin O'Doherty. In our collection we have a book entitled 'Exiles undaunted, the Irish rebels Kevin and Eva O'Doherty' by Ross and Heather Patrick. It was published by University of Queensland Press in 1989. It includes a chronological table of their lives, as well as family information such as birth dates and photographs. The writers were in contact with Caroline Nesbitt, the great great granddaughter of the O'Dohertys, to research this book. As regards tracing surviving family members, you could try placing an advertisement in one of the national papers, such as the Irish Times or Irish Independent. I hope this is of assistance to you, and wish you every success in your research. Yours sincerely, Clodagh Kingston Dublin and Irish Local Studies Collections, Dublin City Library and Archive, 138 - 144 Pearse Street, Dublin 2. Tel: +353 1 6744999 E-mail: [email protected] Now the thing is Pat to View this book it is held by this Library. You may be able to find this lady At the University of Queensland |
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PAT THIS SITE HAS COPIES OF THE BOOK |
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