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From:

BashaiBlue43 (Original Message)

Sent: 2/7/2006 12:59 PM

From "THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY" by Carlos Castaneda

"Ah, that's the universe at large, ' he said, 'incommensurable, nonlinear, outside the realm of syntax. The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were the first ones to see those fleeting shadows, so they followed them around. They saw them as you're seeing them, and they saw them as energy that flows in the universe. And they did discover something transcendental. [...] They discovered that we have a companion for life... We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so. [...] You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics. I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico.

"'Why has this predator taken over in the fashion that you're describing, don Juan?' I asked. 'There must be a logical explanation.'

"'There is an explanation,' don Juan replied, 'which is the simplest explanation in the world. They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops. Therefore, their food is always available to them.'

"I felt that my head was shaking violently from side to side. I could not express my profound sense of unease and discontentment, but my body moved to bring it to the surface. I shook from head to toe without any volition on my part.

"'No, no, no, no,' I heard myself saying. 'This is absurd, don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone.'

"'Why not?' don Juan asked calmly. 'Why not? Because it infuriates you?'

"'Yes, it infuriates me,' I retorted. 'Those claims are monstrous!' [...]

"'I want to appeal to your analytical mind, ' don Juan said. 'Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal.'

"'But how can they do this, don Juan?' I asked, somehow angered further by what he was saying. 'Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?'

"'No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!' don Juan said, smiling. 'They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver - stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now.

Don Juan continues: "'I know that even though you have never suffered hunger... you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.'"

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BashaiBlue43

Sent: 2/8/2006 12:29 AM

I went and got this book from the library after reading this excerpt. It hit me in a very profound way. Something in my head cringed and coiled back but my curiousity overpowered such a feeling. In search of ideas and knowledge and truth I took this book up and have begun reading...

This brought me back to Revelation's thread on Are we born evil and I believe I have to rethink the answer I responded with.

Actually, yes I do think we are born evil. It is a personal choice to break free from the bondage of negativity. Don Juan states there are two minds...one is our own and the other is a foreign mind. We rely on the foreign mind more than our own minds on a daily basis.

Here's a little something I wrote:

I was born into a cage

It told me who I was

What I did

How I thought

How I felt

It programmed me to be the least

I was food for it's hunger

I was supposed to be an easy meal

But I wanted freedom

Freedom that comes with existence

The cage tells me I'm not good enough

Tell me I'm worthless

I'm not special

No one will ever love me

Nothing will ever want me

Nothing, no one ...only the cage.

My abusive lover

From this dead end I run free

But the cage always chases me.

They've caged us all

Bound down by our emotion

Believing that is how we feel

Doing only what we should

Instead of what we could

Alone we hide in our individuality

Crying out for freedom and equality

A battle rages between my minds

To those that would hurt me

I fight back with acceptance

You've never met a creature quite like me

You'll be curious and amazed

But until you can see eimply

You'll never understand

Know within and know without

Give me tolerance

I'll return love

Give me hate

I'll return peace

You can't break me

You can't defeat me

I've gone far away from the cage.