taught by Solace,
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solace© : and break them down into simple elements, and examine what pieces of them are the scariest.. or make us most uneasy, or feel the most like something that we cannot change
Alleged_Mule : do you mean just normal everyday anxieties that we all have
solace© : these pieces usually are big keys to what lies beneath
Laurelovely01 : solace...do ppl suffer from anxiety attacks who dont have depression as well....everyone ive known to suffer from anxiety is also suffering from depression
solace© : yup them too... for the average anxiety suffferer, the everyday stuff is intensified by the worry it will bring on another attack
Alleged_Mule : ok ty
solace© : yes people without depression do suffer anxiety
Laurelovely01 : ok...i was just thinking how difficult this task you are suggesting would be with the addition of depression...sorry for interruption
solace© : they are commonly linked, and in some of those cases you are looking at chemical depletinos that are adding to the overall 'problem'
solace© : no prob at all
solace© : and i agree,. especially since depression is horrible for motivation
Whispering_Moon® : sol?
solace© : yes?
Whispering_Moon® : i admit i am not one able to journal
Whispering_Moon® : i do not have the stick to it ness
solace© : that's ok.. not everything works for everybody
solace© : hiya gidgey
solace© : or else we'd have a cure by now... simplum fix-it solace© : some people like the journal 'cause it's like a big table or graph
solace© : it demonstrates how our thoughts and moods generate our behavious and physical reactions (and viceversa)... to create our total daily environment
solace© : as a seemingly complex package...
solace© : they apply to past and present thougts/ideas/beliefs/memories
solace© : and it is the combination of these things that can help us understand what is giong on
solace© : understanding what is giong on in our bodies and minds is comforting
solace© : so to sum it up, the key to discovering triggers, both major an dminor, conscious and subconscious, we need to understand how our concpets of now mingle with our memories and concepts of past to create our predispositions to stimuli in the now moments
solace© : once we understand this, we may be able to change how we think about aspects of life in general and doing so may allievate many anxieties common to us now
solace© : make sense?
Alleged_Mule : it does ty
ĞIDgEŸ : yes
ĞIDgEŸ : thank you
intense_female : yep yep
solace© : okeee
intense_female : so solace you could use this for anger triggers too huh?
intense_female : or any really
solace© : yeah sure
Laurelovely01 : this isnt easy by any stretch of your imagination however
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : lol
solace© : nope...
solace© : bits are , other bits are not
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : but is it simple?
ĞIDgEŸ : being a writer i hate writing down my personal shit tho
ĞIDgEŸ : hehehe
ĞIDgEŸ : but it would serve as a graph
solace© : lol- i'm the opposite.. well as long as i dont' say "i"
ĞIDgEŸ : lmao
Máidën : that's the way to do it acie
Máidën : (((((((((((((((gidgeymoma))))))))))))))))))
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : your away maiden so u cant add anything
intense_female : solace, my mom was in labor with me for 24 hrs... so when she had labor pains with my brother she ate 1/2 a tuna sandwich figuring it would be hours before she actually gave birth
Whispering_Moon® : ok sol for the sake of knowing
intense_female : but it wasnt hours and the entire time she was in hard labor she smelled the tuna
Whispering_Moon® : lets say i know i am having them and now know why i am having them
intense_female : for 10 years after everytime she smelled tuna she would throw up and start sweating
Máidën : oh no intense
Whispering_Moon® : what do i do about them if i want to avoid drugs
solace© : lmao
ĞIDgEŸ : rofl
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : avoid drugs?
intense_female : but its like anxiety
solace© : yup.....
intense_female : i mean its a fear response really
Laurelovely01 : yeah exactly intense....a trigger
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : i ask the same question only how do i Intercept drugs
intense_female : lol worm
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : trigger
intense_female : cute moon and she'll kick you down
solace© : one woman i know avoids spicy foods, 'cause pains remind her of labour lol
intense_female : Solace you got moon's question?
Whispering_Moon® : using drugs for the attacks
solace© : yes
solace© : if you want to avoid using drugs... our "coping" segment
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : Coping_Villain
intense_female : shhhhht
Laurelovely01 : solace...are you saying the awareness of triggers is enough to minimize the attacks?
intense_female : ty
solace© : coping is the fun part.. 'cause you know sometimes when anxiety makes you feel like you are going crazy? now you can act it out
solace© : it can in many cases laurel
solace© : it provides a focus, a point of attack if you will, agianst the anxiety itself
solace© : part of the power of anxiety is the way it can make a person feel helpless
Alleged_Mule : how so solace
Alleged_Mule : oh ok lol
solace© : ok good lol
solace© : now
Laurelovely01 : or it could feed the anxiety
Laurelovely01 : like...i have to go into a crowd
solace© : being afraid of what you are afraid of?
Laurelovely01 : i know i cant do it
Laurelovely01 : i know i have to
Laurelovely01 : so i know its gonna be bad
Laurelovely01 : make sense?
ĞIDgEŸ : yes
solace© : right.. so if you recognize that as your trigger... then what
solace© : you can continue to repeat what you jsut typed in your head
Whispering_Moon® : solace i had an attack while standing in line waiting to put something on layaway i could smell the smell of new shoes and it was hot in the store and whizzzz away i went i had fighty and flighty reaction i do not want htis again
solace© : or you can go, "oh well, hear goes... i'm just walking down the street... i'm just walking by that person... look at her shoes!... i'm half way through... the sky is very blue today... almost there... i hate this... two more feet to go... i will take a
solace© : deep breath.....
solace© : i understand moon
Laurelovely01 : ok i get it ty
ĞIDgEŸ : i understand that feeling Moon too
Alleged_Mule : better than old shoes moon escpecially a pair of mine lol
solace© : when we need to cope with an anxiety attack, much like quitting an addiction, we need to decide to just do it
Whispering_Moon® : lol
solace© : lol
ĞIDgEŸ : you know for me when i can i take one moment at time
solace© : regardless if we succeed in feeling different or not...
ĞIDgEŸ : it is the things that catch me off guard
ĞIDgEŸ : when i can take it one moment at a time*
solace© : one thing we can do to cope is to say :
ĞIDgEŸ : i dont think too for into the future just one step of what i have to do
solace© : i'm having an anxiety attack (getting dizzy,, feeling funny...etc), oh well, it'll pass when it's done... "
solace© : and then think of something else
intense_female : ah like an earthquake
intense_female : lol
ĞIDgEŸ : refocus?
solace© : yeah...lol
solace© : right
intense_female : we run to the window to watch the transformers explode
solace© : we're all pretty familiar with energy and its uses
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : villain isnt familiar with anything
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : im a spiritual poser
solace© : we can feed our anxiety with our energy, or we can focus our energy elsewhere
solace© : the technique here is generally called distraction
solace© : not aviodance.. but distraction
Alleged_Mule : so knowing its coming you can brace yourself to ride it out lol
solace© : for example taking asa for a dislocated shoulder kills the pain but doesn't pop the joint back together
solace© : poping the joint back in its socket may be painful and unpleasant, but in the long run will ease the pain
Whispering_Moon® : sounds sooo easy
solace© : sounds, lol...
solace© : try this sometime:
solace© : take a deep breath, as you exhale reach for an object aruond you
solace© : grasp it, examine it, and place it down
solace© : take a nother deep breath, reach for something else, even if you cannot actually reach the object examine it with your eyes (and you can mentally reach if you cannot physically stretch a limb)
solace© : *reach as you exhale
solace© : do this randomly
solace© : then the next time you being to feel overwhelmed, stop and take a deep breath, and reach for something
solace© : mentally, or even physically
solace© : examine it, look for the minute detail you never thought to consider before, and how unique that object is
solace© : even fluff has texture and content
solace© : msot of us just haven't spent that much time with fluff before
intense_female : i've met some fluffy people that didnt
solace© : lol
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ : witan for example lol jk jk jk
intense_female : lol
solace© : sometimes i am full of little fluffy people
Alleged_Mule : yeah but thats cali home of fluff lol
solace© : (emoticon...)
intense_female : yeah Witan certainly is fluffy isnt he? ha
intense_female :
ĞIDgEŸ : haha
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ saving that quote
Laurelovely01 : witan?
Laurelovely01 : who's that?
intense_female : lol
GIDgEŸ : lol
intense_female : a mean ghost
Máidën : i heard fluffy
intense_female : that loves us enough to abuse us
solace© : lmao
intense_female : okay sorry solace........... please go on
solace© : where were we?
ĞIDgEŸ : fluffy?
intense_female : focus on fluff
solace© : doh!
solace© : right..
Alleged_Mule : you were talking about focus to
Alleged_Mule : get thru i tyhink
intense_female : lol
solace© : ok so that's typical of distraction.. changing focus, and the like
intense_female : try to focus solace
intense_female : lol
solace© : another thing to do is to change the way we think on a sentance by sentance level
Rûthlëss_VÃllÃ¥iñ writes in journal"solace's unfocusness is giving me anxiety attack
ĞIDgEŸ : shhhhhh
intense_female : you can kick him
solace© : if i walk into a crowd and think "holy schmoly this is a lot of people" i get queasy...