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Anxiety Attacks

taught by Solace,

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solace© : but if i think " this is a lot of people i think i'm gonna be sick" my heart starts to pound

solace© : then i worry about my heart and start to feel really warm

solace© : then i worry about taht and start to focus on my breathing,

solace© : but

solace© : if i walk in to that crowd and think "this is a lot of people i think i'm gonna be sick"

solace© : and then think "well i won't be sick but i will walk faster and look only two more blocks before i can escape these cattle like pedestrains"

solace© : then i have changed my predicted outcome

solace© : when i reach the store i win

solace© : and whew, i'm done my chore... going home again is easier

solace© : but the perspective is what changes.... not the physical reality

solace© : just teh mental reality

solace© : if i KNOW i'm gonna faint, well then why wouldn't i?

solace© : cya bird, have a good one

solace© : but if i know that i just FEEL like i want to faint and that really i'll be just fine, well then why wouldn't i be jsut fine?

solace© : to say it is like deciding to pour a cup of coffee... there's coffee i'll have some

solace© : soemtimes doing it is more like.. "i want coffee but there is sugar on the counter so i don't want to get sticky i will just sit back down"

solace© : did that make sense?

Laurelovely01 : yes and the more often you sit down...

intense_female : yep

ĞIDgEŸ : yep to me

Whispering_Moon® : yes

Laurelovely01 : the harder it is to get up the next time

ĞIDgEŸ : oy vey

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : its all psychological

ĞIDgEŸ : i do know what you mean

Laurelovely01 : so pour that coffee damnit!

ĞIDgEŸ : lmao

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : ty soley moley

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : very illuminating

intense_female : I agree

intense_female : i'm illuminated

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : lol u wish

ĞIDgEŸ : i like how this fits on so many other levels

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : like most things

Laurelovely01 : solace...

Laurelovely01 : how do you help someone who's in the middle of an attack

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : lmt!!!!!!!!

solace© : calm them, take them away from any stressful stimuli, and distract them if you can

solace© : if they are hyperventilating, have them breathe with you

solace© : (not in to a paper bag!)

solace© : get them to yell, scream, cry, move around... or just lay back... whatever does it to move their energy away from the anxiety

solace© : lots of people become more afraid once an attack settles in, because they are afraid of the attack itself as well as what brought it on

Laurelovely01 : will that help them to change their perspective tho?

intense_female : holy schmoly

intense_female : oops

solace© : will what help and their immediate perspective or their perspective in general?

Laurelovely01 : i dunno nvm

solace© : no please

Laurelovely01 : well you said...if you are having an attack...walk thru it as best you can...changing your perspective....

Laurelovely01 : then you said...if you are with someone who is having an attack...remove the stressor

Laurelovely01 : these seem to be opposing

solace© : ok i see

solace© : well, you can take some one out of a crowded room or off of an airplane whatever

solace© : or you can walk with them through it

Whispering_Moon® : once an attack has settled in and has become out of control your help will allow them to refocus

solace© : in the long run, id' say that walking through the situation while helping them clam down would do the most good towards changing their perspective

Laurelovely01 : i see, ty

Laurelovely01 : as a friend you may recognize the attack...you may not know what the stressor is and they may not be able to tell you

Alleged_Mule : what is walking thru solace

solace© : i hadn't really looked into that one

solace© : going through the moment

solace© : laurels' right

intense_female : hey solace is that what lamaz is about (god i have pregnancy on the brain tonight eh)..... focus, breathing patterns, focus on partner, breathe again

solace© : you may not know what brought the attack on, and neither might they

ĞIDgEŸ : but the distraction would be the same wouldnt it?

solace© : um... yeah... intense... i think so

solace© : good vibes no worries relax save energy kinda lamaz and breathing stuff

solace© : yes, the distraction would be the same

ĞIDgEŸ : breathing is very important i have just to focus on the breathing. not actually changing the can actually calm the person down and slow the breathing and distract the person. wouldnt it?

chadrandall : I'm sorry I came in the middle.........but what type of attacks are we talking about.......asthma?

intense_female : anxiety or panic

solace© : (hey they resemble eachother on the outside )

solace© : for some people focusing on breathing is great for distraction and calming

solace© : for others it makes them hyperventilate

solace© : so it depends on the person

ĞIDgEŸ : ok

intense_female : Thank you Solace, I have a friend that had her first panic attack and she's afraid to drive now because thats where it occured

Laurelovely01 : the drugs do work...short term while you are figureing out your triggers right? i mean...its not soooo awful to take them for a bit

ĞIDgEŸ : i can understand that

ĞIDgEŸ : i dont think so

solace© : as a side note........... sometimes an anxiety attack is like an outlet, an emotional outpouring for a person who has no other sufficient means of expressing their fears and fragility and stress....

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : lol as long as i get zanax bas im all about them for my *ahem* anxiety lol

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : bars*

ĞIDgEŸ : hmmm

solace© : that's why sometimes an attack just seems worse or huge in comparison, and that is why sometimes we cannot calm down our friends ...

solace© : most sufferers too experience 'the big one' that one time where it was the worse one ever..

solace© : that is usually when people develope the fear of having another attack, if they ever develope that fear

solace© : there is absolutely nothing wrong with taking medication for anxiety

solace© : they do help

ĞIDgEŸ : and do the journaling too

solace© : and in cases where depression is a factor, (even where it isn't sometimes), they can help boost certain chemmicals in the brian

solace© : *brain

ĞIDgEŸ : yes i agree

solace© : chemicals that are responsible for evening out mood and heloping us cope with stress

solace© : allowing fear to interfere with day to day life will lead to feelings of guilt and inadequacy which in turn empowers your fear. every time you act despite your fear will strengthen your confidence and each small victory becomes a weapon to aid against the

solace© : against the next anxiety attack

solace© : our neuro-transmitters help us deal with seratonin and noraphenephrin- both of which work to adjust our moods. a life of stress or grief or pain can deplete these chemicals. anti-depressants help these chemicals live a longer life in the brain.

chadrandall : love your advice solace.........your right on top of it

intense_female : I agree

solace© : normally the brain would recycle or drain them periodically, anti-depressants prevent the brain from doing so in order that normal levels may once again be obtained. these medications can help the brain return to a normal chemical balance

solace© : glad

intense_female : I Butter

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : shhhh i dont want them knowing thats my nick name

solace© : lmao

Laurelovely01 : awesome solace...thanks

intense_female : When all you want is the taste of butter with far fewer calories and no cholesterol

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : that was too canandian for my taste

Laurelovely01 smack!

Laurelovely01 : hahaha

Whispering_Moon® : sol?

ĞIDgEŸ : lol

solace© : yes?

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : well i secretly liked it so what u said si ture

Whispering_Moon® : are you finished

Whispering_Moon® : other than questions

intense_female : lol

Whispering_Moon® : ty very much

ĞIDgEŸ : i loved you talk solace it really makes so much sense and was well said

ĞIDgEŸ : your talk*

Rûthlëss_Víllåiñ : well said for a canadian

ĞIDgEŸ : villain

Greenberger, Ph.D. and Christine A. Padesky, Ph.D.

Whispering_Moon® : yvw old friend

ĞIDgEŸ : i have heard of this book it is great i hear

ĞIDgEŸ : i will look into getting it

intense_female : Okay

intense_female : so shall we close up?

intense_female : okay

intense_female : Thank you so much Solace, great chat

intense_female : i left ya somethin on the board by the way

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