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British History : A Question for Mark
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From: MSN Nickname-TinCan  (Original Message)Sent: 10/3/2007 12:14 PM
Mark,
 
        Here's something I'd like your opinion on. I had always thought that when William I defeated Harold Godwinson at Hastings in 1066 he, William, became King of England. Looking thru the list of English Kings I find Edgar the Atheling, someone I've never heard of who seems to have held the job from, 15 October 1066, the day Harold's ticket got punched, until 10 December 1066. It shows he died in 1125 and was the son of Edward the Exile. Do you know much about him you can tell us?


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From: MSN NicknameMOREREPETESSent: 10/5/2007 10:51 PM
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT YOU WOULD BE AN ALISTER MACLEAN TYPE FLASH??

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 10/6/2007 12:49 AM
No His books are crap Animated film scripts "here I am in the cupboard listening to the villain"
forget The Land God gave to Cain
 
Nope only 3 Authors
MacDonald Fraser (Writes my biographies born only a few miles from my Father)
Bernard Cornwell (lives in Essex and Sharpe's my Regiment)
Graham Shelby.(Pure beauty)

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 10/6/2007 1:48 PM
Mark
This is by John Donne. Put to music by John Renbourne in the '60s.
 
GO and catch a falling star,  
  Get with child a mandrake root,  
Tell me where all past years are,  
  Or who cleft the Devil's foot;  
Teach me to hear mermaids singing,          5
Or to keep off envy's stinging,  
        And find  
        What wind  
Serves to advance an honest mind.  
 
If thou be'st born to strange sights,   10
  Things invisible to see,  
Ride ten thousand days and nights  
  Till Age snow white hairs on thee;  
Thou, when thou return'st, wilt tell me  
All strange wonders that befell thee,   15
        And swear  
        No where  
Lives a woman true and fair.  
 
If thou find'st one, let me know;  
  Such a pilgrimage were sweet.   20
Yet do not; I would not go,  
  Though at next door we might meet.  
Though she were true when you met her,  
And last till you write your letter,  
        Yet she   25
        Will be  

False, ere I come, to two or three.

 

Now, if you don't find that beautifully mysogonistic, you've blown your accolcade as site intellectual. Typical Midlander.

 

 

 


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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/6/2007 1:58 PM
Im going to have to log off now and lie down in a darkened room with a damp flannel over my forehead, you've awakened memories that have lain dormant for over a quarter of a century. If you quote any Andrew Marvell that'll be me prostrate for the weekend. 

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From: MSN NicknameNormalParanoiaSent: 10/6/2007 2:13 PM
Mark, just make sure it is fact a flannel, they have found that a plastic bag can have rather dubious effects upon a person.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 10/6/2007 2:17 PM
Nothing wrong with a plastic bag. Now die, Pervert!!
 
 
To his Coy Mistress

by Andrew Marvell


Had we but world enough, and time,
This coyness, lady, were no crime.
We would sit down and think which way
To walk, and pass our long love's day;
Thou by the Indian Ganges' side
Shouldst rubies find; I by the tide
Of Humber would complain. I would
Love you ten years before the Flood;
And you should, if you please, refuse
Till the conversion of the Jews.
My vegetable love should grow
Vaster than empires, and more slow.
An hundred years should go to praise
Thine eyes, and on thy forehead gaze;
Two hundred to adore each breast,
But thirty thousand to the rest;
An age at least to every part,
And the last age should show your heart.
For, lady, you deserve this state,
Nor would I love at lower rate.

        But at my back I always hear
Time's winged chariot hurrying near;
And yonder all before us lie
Deserts of vast eternity.
Thy beauty shall no more be found,
Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound
My echoing song; then worms shall try
That long preserv'd virginity,
And your quaint honour turn to dust,
And into ashes all my lust.
The grave's a fine and private place,
But none I think do there embrace.

        Now therefore, while the youthful hue
Sits on thy skin like morning dew,
And while thy willing soul transpires
At every pore with instant fires,
Now let us sport us while we may;
And now, like am'rous birds of prey,
Rather at once our time devour,
Than languish in his slow-chapp'd power.
Let us roll all our strength, and all
Our sweetness, up into one ball;
And tear our pleasures with rough strife
Thorough the iron gates of life.
Thus, though we cannot make our sun
Stand still, yet we will make him run.

 

Really Mark And you to set an example??




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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 10/7/2007 6:15 PM
Khyyam said the same things only used less words.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 10/7/2007 9:13 PM
 
 
Philistinism is alive and well........Don't forget these jokers get paid by the word. And Kayyam was a queer as a 9 dollar  note

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 10/8/2007 5:34 AM
Queer?  Khyyam?  Nah, he was just a man of his time and place in a civilization whose motto was "A Woman for children, a boy for pleasure, and a melon for Ecstacy.' 

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 10/8/2007 12:30 PM
I heard that as "A woman for duty, a camel for cleanliness, and a boy for joy" I thuink we'd better ask Mark

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/8/2007 5:12 PM
With me it's a Trollope for pleasure.

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 10/8/2007 10:50 PM
Add 19 & 20 together and you'd get a hell of a family reunion.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 10/8/2007 11:40 PM
John Masters quotes an old Pathan song
 
"There's a boy across the river
With a bottom like a peach
But alas, I cannot swim"
 
For Mark to think about when he does the 2,000 meter backstroke.

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From: MSN Nickname-TinCanSent: 10/9/2007 12:05 PM
Thanks for the excellent post on Edgar Mark. I too studied History and Lit. at college and was bored to death in Literature if it wasn't Robert Louis Stevenson, Jack London, Alexandre Dumas, or maybe a poet like Edgar Allen Poe.

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/9/2007 7:12 PM
Edgar is one of those historical characters about whom more ought to be known. He was certainly a survivor, to have rebelled against the Normans on several occasions and to have died in his bed in his 70s was an achievement in itself.

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