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From: MSN Nickname1camper1  (Original Message)Sent: 2/9/2003 12:43 AM
Using some cardboard, I made thin frame work for the modle.
 The scale is 1 to 6
 


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From: MSN NicknameSpokanoemakerSent: 2/10/2003 2:23 AM
Actually, that's a pretty good start.
 
Have you some method to transfer the parts you are making to a measuring system, for later when you need to actually cut fullsized parts? 
 
I suggest that you use fasteners on your model that can come apart: scotch tape, hot glue, rubber cement and such-like.  That way, when you get something that looks like you want it, you can take the part from the model, lay it on some graph paper, and using that measurement, scale it up into a real-life-sized piece.
 
One thing you can do at this point with your model, is to stretch a skin across it to see what it will look like.  Try a piece of fabric from an old T-shirt that will stretch across the molds and give you a fair idea of the shape in 3-D. Usually, this will show you where your initial measurements have left concave places in the hull where you intended them to be convex, and like that.  This exercise with the model is 'way cheaper and easier than experimenting with real wood and glue!
 
JR
 
 

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 2/11/2003 1:52 AM
As far as transfering mesurments lienght, width and depth, I think I can do that alright. The shap of the bottom may be a bit of a chalange
Im putting on 1/4" strips of balsa wood with hot glue. Should have another pic of my progress by this week end.

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From: MSN NicknameSpokanoemakerSent: 2/12/2003 6:15 AM
Regarding your efforts to design a special hull, I wonder if this idea wouldn't help. It started out as a practical exercise, but it turned into an activity that I, my grandkids and other folks have tried with much enjoyment. Working with this kind of system gets young people into the ideas of building and playing with small boats real quickly.

The nice thing about it is that it costs zero, is quick and easy, and results in some graceful shapes that can be built using a variety of materials.
See what you think. It's a Microsoft Word file.

J.R. Sloan
 Let's make model boats.doc  

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 2/14/2003 2:41 AM
The strips are going on
 

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 2/15/2003 10:42 PM
Its shaping up

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From: MSN NicknameSpokanoemakerSent: 2/16/2003 8:56 PM
Sure is shaping up. Wonder what you're planning to pack up in all that forward space there? Looks like sitting room in the back: going to have a back rest when you have your legs up inside, kayak-style?

What do you think the balance will be with the weight to the rear like that? Will there be wind resistance to the forward section?

I like your handiwork--shows great imagination and it will make a pretty great model!

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 2/16/2003 9:48 PM
Hmm, hadent figured on sitting kayak style. As far as weightI'll half to do some experminting
 Should be able to load stuff in the front section without haches. Theres always room for desighn change before I start the real thing, hopefuly next year.
 I put a coat of resin on the hull today, lookin good. Would be nice if thr real thing could be put together this quickly

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From: mossSent: 2/17/2003 12:41 AM
Camper,
         It's really all coming together and looks nice so far, only thing I see is it looks as though there will be too much drag on the rear end to consistantly keep it straight without constant paddling changes.
I suggest extending your rear end lines to sleaken the rear stern some. Your drag needs to be balanced more to the center of your craft.
 
            The front end looks really great! Will there be easy access to the front section? Maybe think about two large hinged hatches with rubber seals to keep it water tight.
 
                                             moss
 
                                              

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 2/18/2003 1:54 AM
Yea, I was thinking about some haches on the front but not going to bother with them on the modle
If I were to put my weight to scale in it, it would be 21 lb. well see what happens as far as ballanse and drag this spring when I flote it

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 2/19/2003 3:13 AM
2 more veuis, one of the hull with a coat of resin and one topside rear

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 2/19/2003 3:16 AM
Tonight I put a second coat on the hull and a coat on top
now all I got to do is get lobo to test it out for me

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From: MSN Nicknameiam-russSent: 3/4/2003 11:46 AM
hey camper2 now thats a cool idea  with the model-wonder if one could be made light enought for me to carry down to are lake i was looking at some kits at a site that use cloth with wood frame.39.95 for the ribs and blue prints.and when done it weights 100lbs
 

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 3/6/2003 1:44 AM
100lbs???  would that be loaded for a two week trip?  Think you'll need some wheeles for that one. Been meanin to post some pics of a caerrier I made if I ever get it back.
 I would think a kit like that should weigh only around 50lbs.

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From: RickSent: 3/23/2003 3:04 PM
Hi Camper, which set of wheels are you hoping to get back, the one that I have????? I just got from Flordia last nite but we can get together most anytime and return the wheels its only been a couple of years( ha,ha). Gewt ahold of me and let me know and I`m going to try to get more involved in the canoe club if I can ever find the time. Later, Swimmer ( aka- Rick)

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From: MSN Nickname1camper1Sent: 3/23/2003 8:34 PM
yea, those are the ones, been meanin to come get them for a couple years now  lol
want to take some pics of em to put on here
 

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