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PREMONITIONS : Plane crash and red circles
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From: MSN Nicknameiamwhispermoon  (Original Message)Sent: 12/26/2004 6:22 PM
I've never had a dream like this but here we go.
 
It was warm because I was wearing shorts and the grass was green.  I was outside talking with my parents and my son was sitting in a lawn chair playing with some toy.  But this did not look like my house or my neighborhood so I do not know where I was.  But it seemed like I was in a neighborhood with well-manicured lawns and one story houses.
 
I looked up and I saw this red ring in the sky that expanded outward and then vertically - it reminded me of a smoke ring.  And then I saw another one do the same thing to the right - but this one was smaller.  And they kept on coming and getting smaller.  THEN I saw a plane pop out of one and it was pointing down.  My first thought was that it had exploded in the sky but the plane was still intact.  And then it was like it was being blown or shot out towards our direction.  I saw it pass over us and then watched it crash.  It was like some force had pushed it out of the sky.
 
And the weirdest part was that before I saw it crash, I said, "It's a UNIDEN!" LOL - they make phones...
 
no clue what the significance was but again, this is a dream that shook me awake...so thought I'd share.
 
E


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From: MSN NicknameOceanEyesWatchingSent: 12/28/2004 5:52 AM
That's an interesting dream. Two days before you posted this, I sorta kinda had a vision. I just saw this plane crashing through a building making a ring of some sort. I can't really describe it. I saw this guy with with some people. He was looking straight at the plane a little shocked just standing there and the plane hit him or something. I can't describe everything in detail. It just came to me all of a sudden and I wasn't sure why. I've been having visions of people and things that I don't really know of that I'm not sure if they're simply random thoughts or some residues from my subconscious.


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From: MSN NicknameiamwhispermoonSent: 12/28/2004 2:38 PM
Hi Ocean
 
You should post your random thoughts and visions - I'm curious to hear what they are about.
 
Do me a favor and scroll down to my post titled "The Old Pan Am building"... the dream you wrote about here sounds a little similar.  I wonder if more people will start having similar dreams?
 
I have plane crashing dreams often and I don't know why.  Sometimes planes crash and I have not had any dreams.  These pop up out of the blue.
 
Usually the ones that shock me out of sleep I remember with most detail.  I don't know why they shock me either because usually nothing happens to me in the dream.
 
It's all a mystery I guess.
 
Anyway - I'd love to hear more about your visions.
 
Happy Holidays!
 
E

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From: MSN NicknameOceanEyesWatchingSent: 12/30/2004 7:10 AM
Hello E, that sounds quite interesting. I'll check on that Pan Am building thing you said. Actually, my dreams are always symbolic. But these visions of some sort are not like the dreams I get. Lat night I was just lying down with my nephew when something came to me again. This time it was in some place in a mountain. It was snowing and then a train appeared. There were some men waiting for it and when it stopped they brought out some kind of cargo and brought in a tunnel. Well, I can't really tell what's its significance because I only saw them. I don't hear them. it's always like seeing a silent movie in my head but I'm sure I'm not imagining it because there's pretty much a distinction with plain imagination and things coming to you like a movie.
 
Sometimes I get random images of people i actually know but they don't show anything about disasters or whatsoever so I don't think it's bad after all.


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From: MSN NicknameiamwhispermoonSent: 12/30/2004 6:42 PM
Ocean - you and I are on some kind of same tract - I already posted about a tunnel crash dream on this board - as far as i know it has not happened yet. 
 
I'd be interested if we could find a way to piggy back our dreams?  Sounds like there are some pieces we could put together?
 
Also - read this article from CNN - I saw this last night and figured since I was drawn to it, there was some significance.  For some reason when I was reading this article, the word "RED" kept popping up in my head (by the way, these incidents have been increasing in frequency):
 

Lasers illuminate airline cockpits on approach

Six incidents in four days

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Six commercial airliners in the past four days have had their cockpits illuminated by laser beams while attempting to land, a government official told CNN Wednesday.

The incidents have happened "all over the place" and in "kind of odd places," the official said without elaborating.

None of the flights was affected.

The government official, who spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity, said it was unclear whether this week's incidents were the result of "kids who got a laser light for Christmas" or whether there is "some deliberate attempt to target aircraft."

The cockpit of a Continental Airlines 737 was illuminated by a laser Monday as it approached Cleveland, authorities said.

FBI spokesman Bob Hawk said the light, which shined into the cockpit at around 8 p.m., came from a suburb about 15 miles from the airport.

The FBI said no harm was done and the light did not affect the plane's landing.

On November 22, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security sent an intelligence bulletin to police agencies to alert them that terrorist groups have shown an interest in using laser beams to try to bring down airliners.

"Terrorist groups overseas have expressed interest in using these devices against human sight," the bulletin said. "The U.S. intelligence community has no specific or credible evidence that terrorists intend to use lasers to target pilots in the homeland."

The bulletin said lasers were not a proven method of attacking aircraft but that they could lead to a crash.

"In certain circumstances, if laser weapons adversely affect the eyesight of both pilot and co-pilot during a non-instrument approach, there is a risk of airliner crash," the bulletin said.

It is against federal law to intentionally shine a laser beam at a commercial airline flight.

In September, a Delta Air Lines pilot reported damage to his retina from a laser beam during a landing in Salt Lake City, Utah.

A report for the FAA in June 2004 examined the effect of laser beams on pilots. Of 34 pilots who were exposed to lasers during simulated flights, 67 percent experienced adverse visual effects at even the lowest level of laser exposure. Two high exposure levels resulted in significantly greater performance difficulties and nine aborted landings.

"The potential for an aviation accident definitely exists," said the report.

 
 

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From: MSN NicknameiamwhispermoonSent: 12/30/2004 6:47 PM
I just read another article about this happening locally (with a commercial airline) and it's making me ill................

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From: MSN NicknameiamwhispermoonSent: 6/9/2005 8:21 PM
I suddenly have concerns that this is related to the next shuttle that will take off.  Let me know if anyone else here has a similar dream
 
E

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From: MSN NicknameRhythmWalker1®Sent: 6/9/2005 10:10 PM
Uh, in '86, the night before the shuttle blew, I told my "soon to be husband" to cut the TV off and quit watching the news about the shuttle because it was going to blow up.
We were leaving the next afternoon to go get married.
I sat at a service station and watched the shuttle go up...
When I picked him up from work around 1 pm, the first thing my brother, whom he worked with said was,
"You should have kept your damn mouth shut"
 
MY ESP scares me! at times
 
Then, in 2003, I was in Texas with my new s/o... still in total grief over my daughters death, which we both sensed...
I started to the kitchen for coffee and stopped, my vision was blank and  my head seemed to be roaring...
I told my s/o that something bad was about to happen.
Less than 30 minutes later, the Columbia tried to come home...
 
Yes, I have an ache inside me every time I read about another one going up.
But, I see something different in what we are discussing in this post.
I actually see an insider, right here in America and another explosion that will send stuff flying in the air, close to where
a plane is landing with important government people on it.
This insider is a man that has been in the military and is mad over something...
 
Let's just pray nothing bad happens!
 

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From: MSN NicknameiamwhispermoonSent: 6/11/2005 2:43 PM
That's interesting stuff Rhythm.  Must have freaked you out.
 
Right after the Challenger incident I had my first "freaky to me" encounter with the dead.  I was laying in bed, saw my bedroom door open, a brilliant bright light poured in, mist covered the shadowed figure of an astronaut and then I woke with a start to see the bedroom door was closed.  It was amazing.
 
I too had that "bad" feeling before my father-in-law died in a car accident earlier this year.  Could not shake that feeling and kept hearing "car accident" in my head.  And my watch died the night before he died.  It started working after he died.
 
What was your daughter's name?  I'll see if i can get anything.
 
Oh and about this shuttle stuff.  The dream I wrote about in the first post - I too felt like something big was "blown out of the sky".  I guess we will see what happens.  Hopefully nothing, but in this day and age, anything is possible.
 
Take care and have a good day
 
E

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From: MSN NicknameRhythmWalker1®Sent: 6/11/2005 2:55 PM
Marley Annette Hayes  8/20/06- 6/1/02
 
Thanks E!
 
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Here's her picture 2 weeks before,
 

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From: MSN NicknameiamwhispermoonSent: 6/13/2005 1:04 PM
Rhythm
 
I have not really had the quiet time I've wanted to sit and think about this.  But I will tell you what has come to mind.
 
I see a girl moving very fast - like supergirl and she is wearing a red suit.  She says she has a lot to do and is busy moving quickly.  Superfast.  Doing what, I am not quite sure.
 
As I am typing this, the word "popcorn" came to mind.  Thought I'd throw that out.
 
It's a little scattered for me right now.  Will have to get back to this in a bit.
 
E

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From: MSN NicknameiamwhispermoonSent: 6/13/2005 1:05 PM
There is an air show in Paris this week - guess we'll see what comes.
 
E

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From: MSN NicknameRhythmWalker1®Sent: 6/13/2005 3:50 PM
E, You are good!
She had on a red shirt that night...
On the wall in her room was her motto "I want it all, now"
And I was actually eating popcorn yesterday while reading in the group.
 

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