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| | From:  ghbirdlady (Original Message) | Sent: 5/12/2007 6:51 PM |
| Even though I have bred parrots since 1980, I have never hybridized any birds. However, I raised two baby Mitreds and a Nanday conure together and let them stay together after I failed to find new homes for them. I thought I heard noises of copulation, and later, sure enough, the Nanday has layed (on the cage floor). She is sitting well and the two Mitreds are very protective and bite the crap out of any who come near. I can take the eggs out and stick them in the incubator and hand feed from day one (if they are fertile and hatch), or just see what happens. Anyway, my question is-will her eggs be fertile and survive? I know that many species of conure will hybridize-but there`s a big difference between a Nanday and Mitred. I saw a cross between a conure and a Pionus at a bird mart a long time ago, didn`t believe it at first, but it couldn`t have been anything else! Bizarre looking. If anyone knows anything about this cross, I`d appreciate it! |
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I just found a website that says Nandays really should be classed with Aratingas since they are cross-fertile with Jendays and Suns. Mitreds are Aratingas so I betcha you have fertile eggs. This site has great pics of all conure species. Annie |
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| | | From: momnoah | Sent: 5/13/2007 11:50 AM |
I have heard the same. It will be interesting to see what the babies look like. I hope you can take pics if they hatch. Just my 2¢, but I'm not a big fan of hybridizing species on purpose. I know sometimes it just happens though, and it isn't too bad as long as they are sold as pets only. I think macaws are hybridized intentionally more often that any other. I don't blame you for being sceptical of the Conure/Pionus cross. I can't really even claim to be knowledgable, let alone anything close to being an expert, but I wouldn't think those two genus would be related closely enough to produce young. Conures have their own class ("Conures") and that include Quakers, Brotogeris, and a few other parakeets. Pionus are listed in the "Neotropical" class. I know this is a stretch... but could they have been confusing a Blue Crowned Conure with a Blue Headed Pionus I wonder? I could be way of base though... sure wouldn't be the first time. |
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Most Conures are cross fertile with one another...I'd bet you've got fertile eggs...Please let us know if you do! The offspring, however, may be infertile. |
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| I don`t even want to sell or re-home hybrids as pets...maybe-IF they agree to NEVER let them go into a breeding situation. You never know what`s going to happen when they get a new home-though. There was no mistake about this pionus/conure cross...did a lot of research on it. Of course, I`m sure it was infertile. |
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I've raised about most conure speciesand yes, they can cross breed... A good breeder would cull rather than taint the blood lines... |
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| I have no intention of tainting bloodlines...these babies will be my hubbies pets. |
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Annie-thanks for the reply and the link!
Update....my Mitred is laying now, too...these guys are a threesome-be interesting to see what happens.
I do believe that Nandays are Aratingas, but don`t believe that Pyrrhuras and Aratingas can interbreed. If I`m wrong-tell me. |
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they can, my best friend has a green cheek-jenday cross. He was sold to her as a green cheek, part of a breeding pair no less...but he is sterile, and is now her pet (turned out they weren't really a 'pair' the female just spent all her time in the nest box because she was terrified of the male) She bought them to get them away from the person who had them, the male was partly plucked, which is why she couldn't tell he was a cross, and the cage was filthy, and left in the dark  but now he's a happy healthy guy, his feathers are back, and the female is also starting to come around and get friendly now that she's by herself (although she has other birds in the cage next to her to chat with so she's not lonely by any means) He looks mostly like a green cheek, but he has yellow and orangish patches at the tops of his wings and on his throat, it's subtle but if you put him next to a full green cheek now that his feathers are back it's obvious he's not a full gcc. There are several subtle differences in his shape as well. |
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Ghbirdlady at one time I would have said that due to size the Pyrrhuras and Aratingas wouldn't breed togrther due to size, but that propably isn't so in captivity ... after hearing about the Galah and Cockatiel who knows?... |
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hehe, size always makes us wonder doesn't it? Have you ever seen a chihuahua-bulldog cross? lol it's hilarious |
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