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| I am still reading this women's so-called translation of scripture. How could a church be built upon so much lies? None of what she says can be searched out in the Bible. This is one of the most shocking things I have read so far: 48. CAN SATAN ANSWER PRAYERS DIRECTED TO GOD? EGW: YES "Satan appeared to be by the throne, trying to carry on the work of God. I saw them (Christians) look up to the throne, and pray, 'Father, give us Thy Spirit.' Satan would then breathe upon them an unholy influence ..." (Early Writings, p. 56). BIBLE: NO "If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how
much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!" (Matthew 7:11). BIBLE: NO "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will
be done for you by my Father in heaven" (Matthew 18:19). For this women to even suggest that Satan could answer prayers that are directed at GOD himself it complete ignorance. It is clear that she preaches another Jesus. And man is too blinded to see this. How could she think that something as evil, as Satan could be standing next to GOD Himself? I know for a fact that if anyone follows this women, they are doomed to hell. This women and her deranged writings is why I stress so much to read the BIble for yourself. Clearly if people would have done that, they would have known that this women was preachin another Jesus. Tweety | |
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| Amen, Tweety. You are telling it like it is. Glad to see someone else who can see through this trash. I am against any and all false doctrine, not just adventist junk. Get that straight. I hate to see these false churches and teachers taking souls to hell, thinking they have heaven made. But they love that darkness and there is nothing that can stop it. You surely cannot reason with a darkened mind like beffers has. He has been in here as jazz so many times I lost track, but still is lying about it. Now that IS something God called a SIN WHICH WILL KEEP ON OUT OF HEAVEN. IF THEY HAD EVER READ THE NT HE WOULD KNOW...THAT ALL LIARS SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. God told them in the OT that his requirement for people is to SPEAK TRUTH TO YOUR NEIGHBOR. He knows that I KNOW, but he is more concerned with deceiving people than anything else. I have given so many scriptures here proving that going to the law of Moses, given on Sinai was nothing but bondage. but they cannot hear. He will not deal with the Word of God but uses slandering me as a cover up that he has no answers or interest in learning some truth. He would not give up that WORLDLY church for eternal life. | |
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| What does this scripture mean Beffers? Tweety Colossians 2:14 (KJV)
2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; I need your intrepretation, NOT SHE-DEVIL'S. Tweety | |
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| Beffers, you are totally misunderstanding what I am saying about eating food. I am NOT saying that all the junk in the world of American Food is not bad for our health. Of course it is. I am advocating eating things which we know will hurt our health. But, now you listen to this real good, all of you. IT IS NOT SIN. That is what I am trying to get you to see. iT IS NOT SIN TO EAT PORK. It is not sin to eat bacon. That is a lie of the devil. It was never sin to those who had FAITH. the LAW is not of FAITH. if you would study the NT you would see this. But it is also in the OT. Didn't God tell Noah, after the flood that all meats were alright for them to eat? You think not? | Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. |
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| | | Freeborn, Why show Beffers scripture from the Bible? He does not believe a word that it says. He is lost...He would rather be in HELL WITH THE SHE-DEVIL. THAN TURN TO GOD AND GET THE TRUTH. Tweety | | |
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| Another contradiction! In one breath you're saying there are bad things to eat in the world and these things can hurt you (bad for our health), and in the next breath you're saying eating these things is not sin. Did you not read 1 Cor. 3:16-17 There are two ways to defile your temple, physically and spiritually. You preach the spiritual aspect of defilement so often you neglect the physical. It is a sin to defile God's temple. Period! [beffers] Me: You need to look up the meaning of DEFILE. It has not one thing to do with harming our bodies as you mean. It has nothing to do with being made sick of any nature. You have no understanding of truth and this is why you cannot see what I am saying. You are just being childish and trying any kind of way you can, to slander me and take everyone away from hearing the TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD. yOU ARE just upset because your goddess is being shown up for the false teacher that she was and your church is also just as false. You have not taken the time to study God's word, so you do not know any truth. You are trying to tell the world that it is no good to have true FAITH in God and what he said. This proves you have none. If God said the prayer and faith SANCTIFIES what we eat, he meant that. If we do eat anything deadly, God most certainly can heal it so as not to hurt us. I know. It has happened to me many times. I know without a shadow of a doubt that I have gotten bad food poisoning many times, away from home, in resturants. Without God's help, I would be dead. I have NEVER, NOT ONE TIME gone to a doctor for this condition. I have had it so bad a few times that I felt like I was dying. But through prayer, God healed me, and within minutes. So much for your foolish LACK OF FAITH. The law is not of faith. come into Grace and you can find some true FAITH. | |
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Study the meaning of DEFILE: Here is Webster on defile: Main Entry: 1de·file Pronunciation: \di-'f ī(-ə)l, d ē-\ Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): de·filed; de·fil·ing Etymology: Middle English, alteration (influenced by filen to defile, from Old English fȳlan) of defoilen to trample, defile, from Anglo-French defoiller, defuler, to trample, from de- + fuller, foller to trample, literally, to full �?more at full Date: 14th century : to make unclean or impure: as a: to corrupt the purity or perfection of : debase <the countryside defiled by billboards> b: to violate the chastity of : deflower c: to make physically unclean especially with something unpleasant or contaminating <boots defiled with blood> d: to violate the sanctity of : desecrate <defile a sanctuary None of these meanings have anything to do with making one sick. Being sick is NOT defilement. Being sick is not sin. No food can make one defiled. No food or drink can trample us, or violate our chastity or make us physically unclean or unpleasant or contaminating. If you say it can, you are calling Jesus Christ a lie. He plainly said that nothing from outside the body, which enters in through the mouth, can defile us. He plainly showed it going into the mouth, into the belly, and out the body. That is the digestive tract!!! You can make nothing else out of it, trying to prove your foolish doctrine. You are still bound by Moses�?law and that is the defilement. You are trampling the New Covenant, hence, the blood of Jesus. Noah was not under that law, so he could eat anything. So are we, who are in grace, and did not fall backwards to LAW. So 1Cor 3: 16 & 17 is not speaking of eating any certain FOOD. That does NOT DEFILE OUR TEMPLE. | |
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| Strong's on defile, from Mark 7: 2840 // koinow // koinoo // koy-no'-o // from 2839 ; TDNT - 3:809,447; v AV - defile 11, call common 2, pollute 1, unclean 1; 15 1) to make common 1a) to make (Levitically) unclean, render unhallowed, defile, profane 1b) to declare or count unclean
See, again, nothing about making one sick or physically hurting our human body. It is absurd to try to turn this into such a false doctrine to hold up adventists false teachings, denying what Jesus and Paul taught, beside what God himself showed Peter. Your doctrine is of Satan. | |
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1co 8:7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. 1co 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 1co 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. 1co 8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; 1co 8:11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 1co 8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. 1co 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend. The above clearly shows that if a man has a WEAK conscience, and still goes ahead and eats something offered to an idol, his weak conscience is DEFILED. Does not mean made sick, means he went against what he believed to be right and did it anyway, so to him, it became sin. Not that it was sin to anyone who did not esteem it unclean. See Paul said we who know the meat offered to an idol is nothing, because we know the idol is nothing, and we know it is not wrong to eat meat, we have LIBERTY. But we are not to let our KNOWLEDGE and LIBERTY cause us to cast a stumbling block to them that are WEAK. When the weak in faith, see one who is strong, eating meat in the idol’s temple, it causes them to go against their own conscience and eat something they ‘think�?is wrong. So then that weak brother will PERISH. Strong MEAT. | |
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Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 1ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 1ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: (ouch, that hurts, doesn’t it?) 1ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 1ti 4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. (sounds like joie to me.) 1ti 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness The above is enough to prove to any sensible person, who understands English, that it is a departure of the FAITH, to teach that it is wrong to eat anything. How do the Adventist think they are right to try to judge people according to respect of Sabbath days, or holy days or in what they eat or drink? Did they never read Col. 2:16? Take a good long look! Then dispute with Paul. Now he gets even stronger in 1Tim 4:1... Saying that those who teach such things have departed from the faith, and given heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of DEVILS. That is where you are…under the spell of these doctrines of DEVILS. And what are those doctrine>�?.he tells us……read on�?gt;>> 1. Forbidding to marry (Catholics) 2. Commanding to abstain from meats (Adventist) which God created TO BE RECEIVED WITH THANKSGIVING of them which believe and know the truth Goodness! Look at that! God CREATED these creatures to be received�?means to be eaten�?but no, Adventist claim it defiles your temple to do that. Then they are saying that God meant for us to defile our temple. He said they are SANCTIFIED by prayer and thanksgiving. SANCTIFIED…�?THEREFORE CANNOT DEFILE ANYONE. Then he said, we who put people in remembrance of this good teaching are a good minister of Jesus Christ�?.so which one of us fulfills that�?.white or me? Lol…that is just too obvious, isn’t it. Then he said, refuse old wives fables, �?now that is what you are under…some old wives fable. That old wife is Ellen white. Now I challenge you to stop your dodging with sneers, and deal with this Scripture. Else let all this site take note of the fact that you cannot deal with it. | |
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| From: Beffers | Sent: 6/19/2008 8:06 PM | | No food can make one defiled. No food or drink can trample us, or violate our chastity or make us physically unclean or unpleasant or contaminating. If you say it can, you are calling Jesus Christ a lie. ROTFLMBO!! If that were so, Paul never would have warned us not to defile our bodies in ther first place. Don't you get it? You have no clue as to what Jesus meant. But I told you. And that is truth. take it or leave it. The body can be defiled, polluted, unclean, pick your own synonym to use, both spiritually and physically. Shees! If the body can't be harmed then the warnings of defilement would be useless to us. And if that were so you wouldn't have to pray the prayer of faith. You wouldn't need to. Talk about picking and choosing scripture. Gads Joie you're a card. |
That shows TOTAL IGNORANCE. You are too ignorant to understand first grade reading. go get a dictionary. oh forgot,...you cannot understand what it says. gezzz now you can't get any truth, for you cannot understand simple meanings of words. DEFILE---does not mean to make sick, or physical harm, such as in sickness. THAT IS NOT BEING DEFILED. go study the meaning of that word. stop being so ignorant and trying to take others into your darkened world of IGNORANCE AND EVIL. You defile your own self WITH YOUR SIN AND BY GOING BACK TO THAT OLD LAW. THAT IS YOUR DEFILEMENT. but eating with unwashed hands, or any kind of food, DOES NOT DEFILE ANYONE. It does not make them SINNERS. Eating is not a sin. How could you have so much trouble with this simple thing? It is because you HATE TRUTH. That is the only reason a grown man would just keep on and one and one rejecting this simple truth and even stooping to calling Jesus a lie to do it with. IF.. this be a true scripture.......i mean words Jesus spoke....and this evil man.who wants so much to make me out to be a devil....says these words of Jesus could not be true. Great goodness. You better get out of that false church and seek some spiritual help. you are on the road to total destruction. Jesus told us what defiles the man. why don't you read HIS WORDS? It is because you do not want their truth. it proves adventist are liars and false as can be. but here is his words for anyone who does wish to find some truth: One more time, here it is: Mr 7:15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. Mr 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. Mr 7:17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. Mr 7:18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Mr 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? Mr 7:20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. Mr 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Mr 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: Mr 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man. So, sure, people can be defiled, but not by eating food. your pride defiles you. your deceit defiles you. your foolishness defiles you. your wicked thoughts defiles you. so yes, you are defiled, but not by eating pork or anything else. To continue to pronounce this lie, is calling the above scripture, Jesus' own words, A LIE. | |
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| It is hard to see how a grown man can go on being this IGNORANT. Have you never read one word of Scripture? You need to quit your ball and start studying the Word of God. there will be no ball games in hell. also there will be no word of God for you then. I am NOT going to post it again. It is there for any sensible person to read, Jesus' own words, that nothing from WITHOUT the body can enter into the body and DEFILE IT. Defilement comes from WITHIN. Jesus said so. WITHIN, from your HEART, OR MIND. Sure, your hatred is defilement, it defiles your entire being. Your lusts defile your entire being. but what you eat does NOT defile you, neither in the physical or spiritual realm. It falls on deaf ears. too hardened by sin, hatred, law, false doctrine and hatred of truth. that is YOU. you have given NO SCRIPTURE saying your lies. it does not exist. You are too defiled to learn anything right. You are truly sent by satan to follow me around hurling out your obsenities and lies and evil speaking ...so sure , you are defiled. guess you call God stupid and off-base also....showing Peter all those animals and telling him to eat them,,then when deceived Peter reverted right back to adventist teachings (eating pork is sin)...God himself REBUKED THIS LIE. saying. do not call that common (defiled) or unclean that I have CLEANSED. All meats were cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. No food is unclean. NO food can defile our bodies. nor our spirits. foolish , foolish, man. should have studied the Scriptures instead of ellen and ball. | |
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| Beffers, If you would have read scripture, you would have seen that the flood in NOAH's day, did NOT destroy all the vegetation off of the earth. Elllen WHITE got that mixed up with the account of Lucifers flood. It destroyed everything. So here is the scripture where there is solid proof that the vegation was not destroyed in NOAH's FLOOD. Genesis 8:10-11 (KJV)
8:10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. Now if all vegation was destroyed that dove would NOT have anything to bring back to NOAH as proof the waters had started to receed. Sorry I just had to rebuke you once more on this. You truly need to read scriptures. And leave SHE-DEVIL's intrpretaion alone. For she did not understand a word of scripture. Tweety
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| From: Beffers | Sent: 6/19/2008 10:05 PM | | guess you call God stupid and off-base also....showing Peter all those animals and telling him to eat them,, The verse you're referring to is Acts 10:13. It has nothing to do with eating food. I told you the interpretation several times before. The answer is right there in the chapter. Find it. But try understanding Scripture without your little voice this time. |
YOU told me? now that is a laugh. so the mighty liar beffers, can now say that God was stupid, telling Peter to kill and EAT and it has nothing to do with eating. my goodness. such audacity. to call me a lie is one thing, but to call God is a lie is bad stuff. YOU do not know any interpretation of any scripture. if you think I will listen to your foolish junk, you are really stupid. If God did not mean those animals were no longer to be considered UNCLEAN, / common, He most certainly would NOT HAVE SAID SO, EVEN GOING SO FAR AS TO SHOW THIS TO PETER IN A VISION. Just because you foolish adventist are so steeped in your rebelling against God's grace and truth, does not mean that God is stupid enough to show Peter a vision of all kinds of animals and tell him to kill and EAT, and still intend for Peter to consider that to be wrong!! Now you really do show total ignorance of God in this stupid statement. had nothing to do with eating animals.....such junk. You hate God's truth so much you will go this far, denying the very thing God showed and SAID. Sure there was another meaning involved, that is how God's word is. But...now you get this into your foolish head...GOD COULD NOT HAVE, AND WOULD NOT HAVE TOLD PETER TO KILL AND EAT THOSE ANIMALS IF IT WOULD HAVE DEFILED PETER TO OBEY. You foolish, foolish man. Sure you would love for me to deny God's small voice which talks to me. Just because you do have him talking to you is no sign that I am going to rebuke his precious voice from speaking to me. so all I can say is you are wasting your time. all you are doing is storing up wrath against yourself, coming here to slander my work for God and his true Word. | Reply
| | | Tweety, Thank God for us once again being in the same mind. I came on this morning for the very purpose of telling beffers of that olive LEAF. God reminded me of that last night after I went to bed. glad I waited and saw the same working of truth in you. Glory to God. that is how you get truth. so now, for you. where is that Scripture about Lucifer's flood. and it destroying all vegetation. Please show me that verse. Thanks. JO | | |
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| The old Jews, or Israelites, considered certain animals to be unclean. that was law. it was to people of no faith. to him that considers a thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. to the pure, all things are pure and nothing unclean. Now I know beffer's darkened mind will jump on this and bring up all kinds of evil. but see, to a pure minded person, he does not go to evil. Now, God created pigs, just the same as He created Cows. God did NOT make anything UNCLEAN. So that pig is no more unclean than that cow is. they are both God's creation, and God created them all to be received with thanksgiving and prayer. Beef can make a person sick just the same as pork can. I have eaten pork all my life, and it has never, not one time, made me sick. But beef has made me sick. In fact the last hamburger I ate, several years ago, broke me out in hives so badly that I would not touch one for anything. It did me no real harm, because I immediately called for prayer, and God touched me and took the hives away. Now, the same Jews which considered that to be unclean, ALSO CONSIDERED ALL OTHER PEOPLES TO BE UNCLEAN. They would not so much as even talk to other peoples. They consider Gentile people to be so unclean, that it took a mighty moving of God to shake this wrong concept out of them. the Jews who went with Peter to Cornelius were ASTONISHED that God would pour out his Holy Ghost on the Gentiles the same as he did on the Jews. That is what God was showing.... that to him none of these things or people are unclean. To consider animals to be unclean is the very same thing as considering certain people to be unclean and should not be spoken to. THAT is what God was showing Peter. It is all the same thing. If he still thought those animals were unclean, then he would still think those Gentiles were common and unclean. But Jesus Christ' blood, his sacrifice, cleansed this whole world. Only when people reject this by going back to LAW IS anything unclean to THEM. That is where you are---rejecting the cleansing of Jesus Christ. God could not have, would not have told Peter to kill and EAT those animals, if he had not meant it. At the same time, He was showing Peter to not consider it sin to go preach to Gentiles. God created them ALL. He created nothing unclean. Adventist people are so full of lies and deceit it is certainly a tool of Satan himself, to deceive many souls into destruction. God did not create for man to rule over woman. He created them equals. when he said the man will rule over you, to Eve, he was only showing what her disobedience had brought on herself. That is the very same thing God did when he told those Israelites that certain animals were unclean, to them in their generations. They had chosen law, or rebellion, just as Adam had. so to them, with their unclean mind, those animals were held to be unclean. So when you consider something like pork, to be unclean, it shows you have an unclean mind. Jesus said it is only from the heart, or mind, that a person can be defiled. So if you are defiled, it comes from your own thinking. as a man THINKETH in his HEART, so is he. so you think very badly. think on this!! Not that God made it that way...but it is what they brought on themselves with their rebelling against Grace and Truth. God just kept adding and adding things to them, because of their sin. the law was ADDED to them because of their sin. IT IS NOT A SIN TO EAT ANY FOOD. Even if it does make one sick, it is still not sin. that person cannot be defiled if he eats something. Jesus Christ said so. You think it makes you unclean....so to you, that is your own judgment. | |
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| Where is those messages I asked for? I see by your not posting any, that there are none. if you had any that would vindicate your precious false teacher, you would surely have posted them long ago. There is none. and you know it, that is what is so bad. You know she had no truth. You know she prophecied no true prophecies. You know she wrote no messages, which are full of Scripture PROOF, as all of mine are. yet you still reject the truth and cling to the lies. Now you made the false accusation that God gave Noah animals to eat BECAUSE THERE WAS NO vegetation for them....so now YOU PROVE IT WITH SCRIPTURE. You know there is none. You do as your 'mother' ellen, and just make up stuff. if not, give us the Word of GOD saying this. | |
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| I did some MUCH needed 'house-cleaning' in this thread tonight. I flat refuse any more of this evil non-sense. satan has sent his messanger boy in here to try and destroy this great work of God. but I will not allow it any longer. Jesus said we know a tree by its fruit. If this messenger from hell is the best ellen white and adventist churches can produce it is evident they are not a good tree bearing good fruit. He claims that she brought millions to God...well I say she took them all away from God, because she led them right back to the bondage which Jesus died to set us all free from. He cleansed the entire world...yet these people claim that it is as much sin to eat a piece of bacon as to commit adultry. That is satan's doctrine. It is vomit from the pits of hell. she denies hell, so beffers and his kind feel they can live just any old kind of lives, tell all manner of lies, slander God's true people, disrupt a site which has more truth in it than all the others put together, and still be of God. I flat refuse this evil another minute. this man wants no truth, hates truth, and will stop at nothing to black all truth. Well not here. Not any longer. I tried. I explained, tried to be friendly and nice,,,,,he rejected it all and still slings out his slander, lies and evil gossip, trying to tell the world that I am evil. I flat refuse it. I live my live clean and for God and do not tell lies. I will not allow you to use this evil in this site another minute. I know I cannot stop your evil mouth elsewhere, but some day you will answer to God for your filthy lies and spreading of your false doctrine. saying God created UNCLEAN anmials. Saying the Word of Jesus could not possibly be true. saying ellen could just make up all kinds of stuff, write all kinds of fairy-tale tells and pass it off as truth. She did not even know what to believe. I have read their history, how they set a date for the coming of the Lord, in 1844. Then when it failed, they all tried to make up excuses for this and the group she went with, even claimed that things went on in heaven, then, instead of his coming back. made up lies to cover up their false prophecy. she went with this side, claiming that Jesus was now doing part of his redemption work since the 1844 failed date. they tried and tried to make up acceptable other happenings for the failed date. This proves they did not have any truth from God to start with. Ellen white just followed one of them who came up with the excuse she wanted to follow. Now if you think that is getting truth from god, you must be too stupid to breath. Their claims to teaching health, totally denies FAITH IN GOD. Beffers thinks it is horrible to wait on God to heal....to pray for the sick, according to the WORD OF GOD. Now if that is the fruit of her work, I say away with it.. it could not be of God. enough said. I am sick of this mess. sick of your filthy mouth. go play your sick games elsewhere. You are wasting your time here. I will delete all of your filthy lies and slander. I am here teaching God's Holy Word, AS IT IS WRITTEN. And I will not allow you to interfer with it any longer. If not one other soul in this world wishes to avail themselves of the abundance of proven Truth IN THIS site, I will still teach here and have theirs portion given to me. So, this is the end of the way for slander mouth in this site. I have not banned him, but will not put up with your filthy speeches here any longer. Truth is taught here. not some man's made up false doctrine. that is all I see anywhere else. I do not even care to try to teach in other sites. I have enough to do here. I do not even visit any other sites much any more. all they want is to play silly games. it is not of God. Jo Smith | |
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