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From: MSN NicknameTweety134  (Original Message)Sent: 6/1/2008 6:23 PM
I wish those people on that other board would go to my other board and prove that kepping Sabbaths are for Christians. I have read up on the subject and it is just another lie from a cult.
 
Go here and prove what Dake says about the Sabbaths are WRONG. And you will find people who follow the DEVIL.  Tweety
 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/1/2008 9:08 PM
Anyone who thinks that any week day is a Sabbath is fully deceived and always has been.  it was NEVER a week day.  Only those who were deceived,  denying Jesus,  doing despite to the Spirit of Grace, ever thought it was a week day.
 
It was NEVER a week day.  It was NEVER Saturday.  It was never Sunday. 
 
Jesus GIVES us the one and ONLY SABBATH or REST that there has ever been.  it is the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.
 
COME UNTO ME AND I WILL....GIVE...YOU....REST....TO YOUR SOUL.
 
There is no other rest.
God's seventh day rest was NOT a weekly 24 hour day.  How foolish.
It happened when He set Jesus down on his throne,  to rule.  Now God is at rest.  see?  you do greatly err, not knowing the Word of God or the true REST.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/1/2008 9:10 PM
The same people who thought that it was a weekly day, also thought they should kill an animal, and sprinkle its blood all around, for cleansing.....but the Word shows that this could NEVER TAKE AWAY SINS.
 
So, that weekly day could never give REST.
 
it is all the deception of LAW.

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 Message 9 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/2/2008 2:24 AM
Read this verse: 
<NOBR>1co 16:1</NOBR> Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
<NOBR>1co 16:2</NOBR> Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come

See, that in no way shows a getting together.  It clearly is showing that they were only laying up somewhere, something which they meant to give later.  This is not proof of any Sunday Sabbath, as indeed there is no such thing.  Neither is there any such thing as Saturday Sabbath.

 

Sabbath, or rest, is having the Holy ghost.  Neither the adventist or Dake knew this great truth....so neither of them entered into Christ ' rest.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/2/2008 2:30 AM
There is nothing in 1Cor 10  or 11, to indicate any certain day of the week.  Why did Dake list so many referrences which have nothing to do with proving his point?
 
I say he counted on people never taking the time to look them up, and thinking that he really had loads of proof.  That is just what some of you think.  But do the study.  Prove it or not.
 
I prove that he is misuing the Word of God to try to make himself appear as some kind of superior learned man.  he shows himself not to be that at all, but a false teacher, who had no revelation at all.
 

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 6/2/2008 2:45 AM
Did he not say what you have said Freeborn about Sabbaths?

Christian Law on Sabbaths

 

This refers to all the sabbaths of the law of Moses, including the regular weekly sabbath. All of them are now abolished with the law, thus fulfilling prophecy (Isa. 1:13-15; Hos. 2:11). Christians are now free to keep any day they want to as a sabbath (Col. 2:14-17; Rom. 14:5-6; Gal. 3:9-10).

 

 All sabbaths were a shadow of the rest we now have in Jesus Christ (Col. 2:17; Mt. 11:28-30; Heb. 4:3,10-11; 10:1).

—Dake's Study Notes

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/2/2008 2:59 AM
Then he is forked-tongued.  I just read today where he is setting up Sunday as the Sabbath.  He was like Branham....did not know what to believe, so he said all kinds of different things....to make it appear that he really was on to something.
 
Most people do not keep up with  what is said, so they depend on this....to get them by.  Those of us who catch it, are branded as trouble-makers.
 
No, we are not free to decide which DAY is to be our sabbath.  I told you today,  it IS NOT A WEEKLY DAY.
 
Can you hear?  or did you just forget already?  anyway.  glad to see you made it back home.
 
I fell on the road, after wearing myself out cutting down so many little trees and briars.  Now I am sore.  But I am thankful that I did not get hurt any worse.  Praise God for that.  could have been bad....and no one to know about it....as I am all alone here.

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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 6/2/2008 3:04 AM
Sorry to hear that, Jo. Remember that you have a cell phone and you need to carry it with you at all times. Was glad someone was here when I fell.
 
I know you remember when mama fell and broke her hip and she laid there for hours untill you heard her screaming.   

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/2/2008 3:06 AM
Yes, and that could have happend to me.  But I am thankful that I did not break anything.  Do not carry the phone with me.  but you are right.  I sure need to do so.  gonna have to quit walking on this road.  that is twice I have fallen on the grave.   GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE.  PRAY FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.

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From: MSN NicknamechristiaannelSent: 6/26/2008 10:39 AM
Christianity is not based on Biblical Doctrine but only on Church Doctrine.
Christianity could not exist if they did not translated the Bible and inserted Christian Names.
Christianity is built on their foundation of the doctrine of ANTINOMIANISM.
Christianity will never accept Biblical sabbath because their FOUNDER CHRISTIAN Constantine the Great made a Christian Law to make SUNDAY a rest day and a day of worship:
 
This system was brought into Hellenistic Egypt from Mesopotamia, where astrology had been practiced for millenniums and where seven had always been a propitious number. In A.D. 321 the Emperor Constantine the Great grafted this astrological system onto the Roman calendar, made the first day of this new week a day of rest and worship for all, and imposed the following sequence and names to the days of the week: Diês Solis, “Sun's Day�? Diês Lúnae, “Moon's Day�? Diês Martis, “Mars's Day�? Diês Mercuriì, “Mercury's Day�? Diês Iovis, “Jove's Day�?or “Jupiter's Day�? Diês Veneris, “Venus's Day�? and Diês Saturnì, “Saturn's Day.�?This new Roman system was adopted with modifications throughout most of western Europe: in the Germanic languages, such as Old English, the names of four of the Roman gods were converted into those of the corresponding Germanic gods.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition is licensed from Houghton Mifflin Company. Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Selected Illustrations from the Concise Columbia Encyclopedia.  Copyright © 1991 by Columbia University Press.
 

an·ti·no·mi·an·ism 
 
an·ti·no·mi·an·ism (àn´tî-no¹mê-e-nîz´em) noun
1. Theology. The doctrine or belief that the Gospel frees Christians from required obedience to any law, whether scriptural, civil, or moral, and that salvation is attained solely through faith and the gift of divine grace.
2. The belief that moral laws are relative in meaning and application as opposed to fixed or universal.

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition is licensed from Houghton Mifflin Company. Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Selected Illustrations from the Concise Columbia Encyclopedia.  Copyright © 1991 by Columbia University Press.
 
No one can enter into the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN without complying with the LEGAL REQUIREMENTS:
 
<DIR>

Rev 22:14 Blessed3107 are they that do 4160 his 848 commandments,1785 that2443 they846 may have2071 right1849 to1909 the3588 tree3586 of life,2222 and2532 may enter in1525 through the3588 gates4440 into1519 the3588 city.4172

One of the TEN COMMANDMENTS is keeping the sabbath; the seventh-day sabbath and not one Christian has ever kept the sabbath and the sabbath was given as a sign of the END OF THE WORLD;

And1161 as he846 sat2521 upon1909 the3588 mount3735 of Olives,1636 the3588 disciples3101 came4334 unto him846 privately,2596, 2398 saying,3004 Tell2036 us,2254 when4219 shall these things5023 be?2071 and2532 what5101 shall be the3588 sign4592 of thy4674 coming,3952 and2532 of the3588 end4930 of the3588 world?165

(Mat 24:3 KJV+)

But1161 pray4336 ye that2443 your5216 flight5437 be1096 not3361 in the winter,5494 neither3366 on1722 the sabbath day:4521

(Mat 24:20 KJV+)

There remaineth620 therefore686 a SABBATH 4520 to the3588 people2992 of YEHOVAH 2316

(Heb 4:9 KJV+)

The word 'GOD' in the English Translation is a substituted word for the original word YEHOVAH.

G4520  σαββατισμός   sabbatismos SABBATH DAY REST

The sabbath continues in to the future, even after the new world is created:

For3588 as834 the new2319 heavens8064 and the new2319 earth,776 which834 I589 will make,6213 shall remain5975 before6440 me, saith5002 YEHOVAH,3068 so3651 shall your seed2233 and your name8034 remain.5975 And it shall come to pass,1961 that from4480, 1767 one new moon2320 to another,2320 and from4480, 1767 one sabbath7676 to another,7676 shall all3605 flesh1320 come935 to worship7812 before6440 me, saith559 YEHOVAH3068

(Isa 66:22-23 KJV+)

CHRISTIANITY is made up of two religion sysytems: ROMANSIM and PROTESTANTISM and combined for one third of the world population according to the website:

http://www.adherents.com/

New edition of World Christian Encyclopedia published: tabulating 10,000 distinct religious groups, including 33,830 Christian denominations and each denomination has it's own doctrine and all doctrines differ from one another.

PROTESTANTISM is the only RELIGION that looks like a lamb:

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Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

PRTOTESTANT AMERICA is well known as a COUNTRY with a distinct separation between CHURCH and STATE yet both systems are grown from the head of the dragon which is masked like a lamb.

</DIR>

 

</DIR>
 
 
 

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 Message 16 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2008 2:36 PM
'seventh-day' sabbath keepers will NEVER keep the TRUE SABBATH, which Jesus gives to those who obey him.
 
No,  false christianity is what you are speaking about,  NOT TRUE CHRISTIANITY.  You know not the difference,  nor do you know a thing about true Christianity, according to the Word of God.
 
You do but look back into old history about that fake church, (of which you belong)...and think that is Christianity.
No, it is not.  neither is adventism.  It is an idol worshipper, worshipping ellen white and her false teachings.
 
Now you have no idea what the 'Seventh-Day Rest really is'.  It is NOT SATURDAY KEEPING.  It has nothing to do with our weeks or days.
 
that is why Paul said ,  I am afraid of you,  because you observe weeks and days and months.  see.  that has nothing to do with God's Rest.  Do you honestly think that Paul was so deceived?  and knew not what he was speaking about?  don't you know that if he kept one day of the week, every week, he could not have made such a statement!!!    read the word of God for a change!
 
Now you who claim to 'keep that seventh day'  do not one thing according to what Moses set down to do.  and if you HAD to , you would screem for deliverance!
 
That one and only true church, in Peter's day,  went to their meetings EVERY SINGLE DAY..   THEY WENT ABOUT DOING THE WORK OF GOD EVERY SINGLE DAY.
 
They knew the TRUTH.  One day is not above another.
 
they kept theONE AND ONLY TRUE SABBATH, T HE REST JESUS GIVES  =  THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY GHOST,  ISA. 28  ....ACTS 2, 10.
 
God never went into his REST, THAT SEVENTH DAY, UNTIL AFTER JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD, AND ASCENDED ON HIGH, AND SAT DOWN ON THE THRONE OF GOD,  GIVEN THE POWER TO RULE AS GOD, BY HIS FATHER.
 
NOW, THAT IS THE SEVENTH DAY REST.  FROM WHICH HE NEVER EMERGED.  JESUS IS STILL  RULING AND GOD IS STILL RESTING FROM ALL HIS WORK WHICH HE MADE.
 
HE NEVER PICKS IT BACK UP FOR IT IS FINISHED.
 
Do honestly think that those TEN  ARE THE ONLY COMMANDMENTS OF GOD? 

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 Message 17 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2008 2:39 PM
yOU ARE in the beast system.  It is all false religions, and yours certainly is one of them.
 
those ten commandments are those ten horns on the head of that beast.
 
Grace is the true system of God,  NOT LAW.  It was ADDED BECAUSE OF TRESGRESSIONS     UNTIL  THE TRUE SEED (Jesus)  came.
 
Now that is why he had them under that bondage of 'sat keeping.'  that is where you are....on that beast, believing God made some unclean animals!

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2008 2:41 PM
America is no more that beast than all other countries in this world are!  Shows you do not look to the right source for your information.
 
Look into the Word of God.  That is the only place  GOD'S ANSWERS are.
 
Your belief or LAW is that BEAST.  It is sanctified only by the BLOOD OF BEASTS,  NOT OF JESUS.
 
His blood sanctifies the GRACE Covenant,  not that old law covenant.
 
You are in just as much darkness now, as you were the first time I met you.  You cannot study and learn the truth of God's Word, for you bury youself in the false words of ellen white and her kind.

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From: MSN NicknamechristiaannelSent: 6/29/2008 11:49 AM
America is not the only PROTESTANT COUNTRY in the world; I only explained the two horn symbols!

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From: MSN NicknamechristiaannelSent: 6/29/2008 11:52 AM
Grace is only given, please note, only given to the COMMANDMENT KEEPERS:
 
<DIR>

Exo 20:6 And showing6213 mercy2617 unto thousands505 of them that love157 me, and keep8104 my commandments.4687

</DIR>
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/29/2008 2:37 PM
No, you did NOT explain the two horn symbols.
 
so...
 
have you kept this commandment?>>>
<NOBR>Ac 10:47</NOBR> Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
<NOBR>Ac 10:48</NOBR> And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

If not, you have not been given Grace.  Grace and Law cannot mix, for they are opposites.  Law is bondage.  Grace is freedom.  Grace obey God out of LOVE ,  NOT LAW.

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