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| | From:  SearERIC (Original Message) | Sent: 10/8/2003 5:21 AM |
First of all, I want to make it clear to everybody, I am not speaking of anyone here! As most of us do, I particpate in more than one group. A Pastor of one of the groups I belong, said that Knowledge is not a part of Salvation. I went through great pains to supply scriptures that showed that indeed Knowledge plays a important role with our Creator. This Pastor still refused to budge from his position. I stated in that case we have Exhausted This Subject. I went on to reply to other post, only to find out that my membership had been withdrawn. I very seldom get angry, today I am. There are two types of people I have a diffcult time respecting. Cowards and Bullies! I am so angry right now I want to walk to his home state, find him. What I would do after I found him, I won't say. What a coward, instead of admitting he was wrong and moving on, he hides behind his pastorship and beinning asst. manager. Jo and I can go at it pretty good sometime, yet she has never leaned on anything but scripture or what she was taught. Never her position. This is why I insist on never having anything to do with Pastors and Rabbis, I'm sorry they are just little popes as far as I'm concern. Thank you for providing me with a place to vent. Peace! |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 10/9/2003 6:28 AM |
BRAVO, Eric.   Bravo, Larry.  haha. Join the 'banned ones' Eric. I bet I have been banned more than anyone else on the internet! For the same reason, they cannot and will not endure sound doctrine! I just had to laugh at what you said, because today I told Larry, they are little popes. I did not know you two had said that. So that makes the three witnesses needed to establish it as truth. So it is established as truth, they are all little popes. They are of the same spirit = the devil. I was invited to join a board a couple weeks ago. I went right then and joined. I posted a 'hello' message. A few minutes later, the same 'pastor' who had invited me to join, removed my membership and lied to another member, or whom I had requested a siggy, well this 'pastor' told that man I had left. Out right lied. This man calls himself 'pastor David.' I had also joined the board of Joylee, who was a member here and on the true light now shineth. She was a manager there. Well this 'pastor David' was a member there. So he did a thing about loving your neighbor, and I just could not resist it, I said "now really" And just when should such a thing be? You must practice what you preach" (or something to that effect. Well, they decided they did not want me around anymore. Joylee unjoined both my groups. And said some ugly things there about me and my 'nit picking spirit'. I explained to her why I said it, but she deleted what I said. So I unjoined there. Then in the same week I joined a small group to help them with something they admitted being very confused about (which I am not the least bit confused about). Well a Catholic, with whom I had some bad stuff with way back when me was first computering, happened to be an Assist. manager there. That whole board went crazy there at me and again I was removed. Along with all my precious messages. One of their group has been sweetly corresponding with me via e-mail. She is reading here now. Welcome to her. May she be blessed and her friend whom she invited to also read here. Welcome to you both, if you read this. Love to you. Love to you, Eric. I know your feelings very well. I was removed from three groups in one week. I actually unjoined Joyless's board; but I was pushed out the door first. May they all find truth before it is too late. Where is the Holy Spirit in all of this? JO |
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pastor David,
That fool is the one who said that there is no Knowledge in Salvation.
That idiot, if you take out knowledge, you take out wisdom, truth etc.
Not one person challenge him.
Talk to you tomorrow.
Peace!
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 10/10/2003 2:36 AM |
Eric, know why no one there challenged him? Because they do not believe is such things. They got onto me for doing so. They wrote a long thing about how debating is of the devil. I told them if this is so, then they must call Paul of the devil, for He said he was in disputes and contentions daily. She deleted that also. They do not wish any discussions. (This is a sure way of going on in darkness forever)---.They will sacrifice any truth for the sake of a 'peaceful' little group of 'biddies' all 'ooooowowwing and awwwwwwwing each other'. One writes a short little essay, and the rest chime in with, oh that is a good message. thanks for sharing. they all say this thing to each and every message. See, no real teaching, just a peaceful little chat to keep up the message ratio. I ask WHAT THE WORLD GOOD IS THIS DOING ANYONE? Without the true KNOWLEDGE of God, all will perish. that is how satan gets a strong hold against you, a LACK OF TRUE KNOWLEDGE. Paul said we are not IGNORANT of his devises. Without knowledge, one is ignorant of his devises. I listened to one of my tape messages today. It was on people not desiring the knowledge of the Holy. They say if they do not know they will not be held accountable. It is a lie of the devil. I did a lot of Scriptures in Proverbs and said this< Every chapter in Proverbs has something in it about the importance of the Knowledge of God. It is a trick of Satan. This 'peaceful' little chat room stuff is also a trick of Satan, where the wolves in sheep clothing, like that pastor David can strow his venom and false teaching. Love to you, Jo |
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Hey Jo;
Yes you are right, they think that by being cute, sending one another little prayers, they can fool a Almighty Creatorl. He sees the evil in their hearts and will address it in their time.
Pastors, that say you don't need Knowledge to be Saved are evil and liars!
Peace!
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Hey ya'll!! My name is Kristi and I just joined cause I had to come in and respond to these posts about Pastor David. I say Amen to everything you guys had to say about that man. I have a group of my own and I had to cancel his membership cause from the moment he joined there was an oppressive spirit on the site and I almost lost 2 precious people over him. But God opened my eyes to David and I finally saw him for who he really was. For about a week or 2 David and I talked every night on IM and that's how I found out what kind of a man he really is. If he would get mad he would type out cuss words on the IM and several times he made sexual remarks to me that were very inapproipate and finally I had enough. I withdrew my membership to his group and I cancelled his membership to mine. I had to block him from even being able to email me. This man calls himself a christian pastor for all the world to see than in the secret he is a dirty man that truly proclaims to be God. I wrote him an email explaining why I removed him from my site but I almost wish i didn't cause the more I find out about him the more I realize that he's the devil. I found out that he's done this to many women and if you don't believe that he's God than he'll bann you from his site. He has actually said that he is the only true church and that all other churches are false teachings. And if you don't believe you are an audimatic enemy of his. This man truely needs a reality check from God. He's like the anti-christ or something. Well I'm done now just wanted to add my 2 cents to the conversation. Kristi |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 10/24/2003 6:39 PM |
Hi Kristi, Glad to have you aboard, girl. Thanks for coming in here and giving us this true testimony. I am so glad to hear someone else speak up and expose this evil man. I also joined his group, at his request. He removed me without even letting me post one message. He had all kinds of 'smart elic' remarks on his own board against people. I did not like him from the very start. I saw his evil spirit right away. Then because I said a little something about his attitude on Joylee's board, she turned against me and wrote ugly stuff about me, so I unjoined her group. They do not have enough discernment to see through this evil man and to know a true Christian. Love to you, Jo |
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| | | From: Isaiah | Sent: 10/25/2003 5:04 AM |
Amen to all that was said. |
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You know I just have to add one more thing I just found out that this man is threatening people now and it makes me want to rip his head off. You need to pray for David cause he is really messed up. Kristi |
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Dear friends, I am In full agreement with all your responses to this question of aquiring knowledge. It is vital for me, not just because I fear being misled, but because our Lord took great pains to bring us the truth which is recorded, under the guidence of God, in the bible.They have become like the Pharasees, puffed up with pride and self importance, God help them. |
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| | | From: joie2 | Sent: 11/20/2004 3:15 PM |
Dear Marie, I am so glad you have joined us here and became an active member. I love the way you find older messages and bring them back up. I had all but forgotten this one. I have sat and completely re-read this entire thread. I am so glad to have it back up to REMEMBER. It is just plain spiritual 'suicide' to not desire and seek the true knowledge of God. Now the only source of this true knowledge is God's pure word. I fully believe that unless one stays with the authorized KJV, they will not receive the pure truth. Unless one 'studies' the Word to shew themselves approved to God, they will NEVER be approved by God. This is HIS requirement. Unless we love the Word, we cannot possible know or love God. Thanks for bringing this important thread back up. Love to you, Jo |
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so once again I found this and read it all. amazing at the things which have gone on here in past years. I hope some of you read this and see how important knowing the TRUTH really is. Do not allow some church, some preacher, or anyone to mislead you. Get into the Word of God for yourself, and STUDY. Prove all things, as we are commanded to do. prove if it is truth or not and is so doing you will save yourself from deception and destrucion. Jo |
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