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Now this verse Freeborn and I were discussing and I stumbled across it last night. And the verse is Gen 5:1-2 and it reads:

Genesis 5:1-2 (KJV)
¹This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
²Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

I want people to read this very carefully. Why would GOD call the man and women Adam. Adam was a man. But I think that this is talking about mankind. Not just one man. See it says generations. We all know that Adam (the man) and EVE had children. But this says that Adam (mankind) was created in God's likeness. Now GOD is a Spirit. Now I think that there was a whole generation, of these Adam's that God created. What happened to them? Has anybody ever thought about what happened? This is not the Flesh Adam. This is the Spiritual mankind that God created. NOW for that word "in the day". What do you think that means? In a day? 24 hr period? Nope. I think it is a day when he created the heavens. And a day does not mean a 24 hr period in some places in the Bible. Just read the WORD and study the WORD for understanding. I thought that FREEBORN was totally out of her mind when I first began to read her messages. I had no clue to what she was saying. But as I studied the WORD and read the WORD I had questions and I would call her and me and her would talk for hrs about it. These questions came from my head. Not from something that she has written. I have even got her thinking in a new direction on some things. EVE (what a wonerful women she was).

People need to get pass the lie that EVE did a bad thng and face the truth that she was a poor victim of Adam. HE hated her. He wanted her to be like him, but she clung to GOD's WORD. SHE knew the WORD just like ADAM. ADAM threw the WORD of GOD away and wanted to do things his way. He thought he was GOD himself! That is how powerful he was. I guess you think you can be that powerful. He rules you. Eve rules the righteous! And through the seed of the women (Which started with EVE and gave JESUS a righteous line to come through). YOU can not say that Jesus came through Adam's line. Sin entered the world by one man (Adam).

So keep on spreading lies and falsehoods about Adam was the weak little chicken bird that gave in to a dominating EVE. OH PLEASE! Anyway you twist the story it will always cross scripture. And if something crosses scripture here on this board-FREEBORN will catch it. You must start out in Genesis and read every word and ask God questions, and he will give you the answer if HE knows that you truly seek the truth. He will open your eyes. Tweety

This is a very great message, Tweety. You simply amaze me at times. I am so glad to see you coming into this kind of understanding.

Yes, the world thinks the truth which I teach is false, because they had listened to false teachers all their lives. All churches have adhered to the lies of man. This make people mad when I say ALL CHURCHES. But if anyone out there knows of one which sees that God is a many membered kingdom, not just one or 3 beings, then show it to me.

show me one which knows that Jesus is God's son, and not some incarnate god. I want to find that church or teacher.

I am saying exactly what the Word of God says, not what some man or church says about the word.

this what people hate....calling their 'preacher or church' a lie.

See they do not wish to study for themselves, as you and I do, so they want to believe that their preacher is telling them the truth.

No one can go to Heaven on the works of another person. We all must study the Word and pray outselves.

2co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2co 5:2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

2co 5:3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

2co 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

2co 5:5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

2co 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

2co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

2co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

2co 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

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2co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

What do you suspose that people think the above verses mean?

If our earthly house, (body) were dissolved, (or died)... we have a building of God ( = a body which God created),,,not made with hands...(the dust body of Adam was made with hands)...... ETERNAL in the heavens.

Now ponder that a bit. we have another house or body, to live in. this one is eternal in the heavens,. so how did it get there?

we inherite that body or house, when we die and leave this eartly tabernacle.

Do people ever one time consider what any of this means? I think not.

How and where did that eternal body come from? it has to be a different creation from the one we now live in.

It is a celestial body. we are now in a terrestial body.

so that is TWO DIFFERENT CREATIONS. If not, go find me that world of heavenly bodies right here on this earth. I want to go see it.

see how stupid that old carnal way of thinking is? No heavenly bodies waiting for us in another world!

2 Corinthians 5:3 (KJV)
³If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

What happened in that Garden of EDEN? What did Adam say in the Garden? I will show you:

Genesis 3:9-10 (KJV)
⁹And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
¹⁰And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

See how it all connects? Adam and Eve were clothed with an eternal house. A house that was not made with hands. Eternal (that means forever in the heavens). Everything brings you back to GENESIS. Now I will admit that when I read the story of Adam and Eve, we automatically think that Adam and Eve were naked in flesh. Yeah that is the way we have been taught. Adam & Eve's building a house that was not made with hands and that is eternal they lost. They became absent from the LORD just like it says in 2Cor. 5:6. And so God had to put flesh on them. The way it is written in the Bible is a little confusing. But just like Freeborn said, you can read it like a book or connect scripture with scripture. And then you will solve the mystery and discover the secrets of GOD. That is why they hate the KJV so. That is why it was written the way it was written. God taught man how to write it. AND the Devils are trying to cover the secrets of God so no man will be brought into Grace, by having them blinded by reading other versions. The NIV is the worse version out there! And there will be something worser than that? When will you fight to put an end to the lies against GOD's WORD? Can you bann it from the shelves? Are you that brave? How will you bring people into GRACE and TRUTH when you do not study the TRUTH? Oh ye of little faith. Tweety

This is a glorious truth, Tweety. That is wonderful how you picked this up. This is so deep and truth, it is certainly food for the soul. God is mightly giving you these truths!

I am still studing and this word "naked" does NOT mean without clothes. So if any of you have a Bible software program where you can search out just one word through the whole Bible. I think you should type Naked in and see what it says. Freeborn I found a verse where GOD slew the naked and dry land with water. Sound like a flood to you? Tweety

Tweety, I am very interested in that scripture. please show me where it is.

I looked up 'naked' in Strongs way back. It is a great educator for this word.

It has nothing at all to do with wearing or not wearing cloths.

Hosea 2:3 (KJV)
³Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.

This is the verse that I saw when I was searching for the meaning of naked. Some of the verses do mean without clothes. But some references to naked means to committ sin. So when Adam said to GOD that he hid himself because he was naked. He was saying I have sinned and you will see it. So Adam hid himself from GOD. And when God asked who told you that you were naked? See only someone with the knowledge like God could have told him. It was Eve that told him that he was naked.

She saw his sin. There are so other verses that you can study about being in sin.

Exodus 32:25, 1Sam.19:24, 2Ch.28:19, Job 1:21-(Why is the word Naked in capital letters here?). Job 22:6, Job 24:7, Job 24:10, Job 26:6, Isiah 58:7, La.4:21, Eze 16:39, 1 Cor. 4:11, 2Cor. 5:3.

I do not know what is happening to me tonight. Now I have something else from Genesis. I believe that Adam was the first to take the bite of the forbidden fruit. That was the only way that Eve could have seen Adam naked. She did take part in it and was naked. But his sin was greater than hers. She only had that one sin of disobeying GOD's WORD. All of Adam's sins were laid out before GOD to see, when he became naked. Would you want GOD to see thousands of your sins that you committed? Every sin known to man today GOD saw in Adam when he was naked.

Sin entered this world by one man (ADAM). But how many sins came into this world by him? Something else to think about. Tweety

Tweety, this is utterly amazing! I was working on the message which I just posted, The Devouring Lion, this evening. A friend of mine called and talked a while, or I would have posted it a while ago.

But I posted it BEFORE I looked at this.

Read that message, then compare it with this Scripture in Hosea 2.

It is the very same 'mother' or wife. It is the naked kingdom of ADAM.

It is the LAW CHILDREN.

that is why he will not have mercy on them.

I will get back to this shortly. Want to go post my new message on The true Light now shineth.

You are being taught by God. That is what is happening to you.

it will get greater and greater as you gain more knowledge and let God lead you.

Praise God for this, my sister.

Ho 2:1 Say ye unto your brethren, Ammi; and to your sisters, Ruhamah.

Ho 2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;

Ho 2:3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.

Ho 2:4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.

Ho 2:5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.

Ho 2:6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.

Ho 2:7 And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them: then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now.

Ho 2:8 For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal.

Look at this and compare it with my new message, The Devouring Lion. And I had posted it before I saw this in your post.

See, everyone thinks of the above as nothing more than the nation of old Israel. But that is just a type. The true whore here is the kingdom of Adam, with Adam as its head. This kingdom, as all nations or kingdoms, are referred to as a woman. (Everyone thinks it is speaking about a natural woman, and try to brand women as bad because of this. But no. It is speaking of a KINGDOM, the Kingdom of Satan or Adam.)

See this is speaking about the kingdom of Adam, or the human kingdom or flesh. She is the whore. She is this naked kingdom. She is naked Laodecia.

She, the Adam kingdom, played the harlot, in that she worships a false god. That god is Adam. I believe from this passage that Adam is also called BAAL. Yes. I believe it will prove out that Baal is Adam, just as the Golden Calf is an image of Adam.

In the end, this evil kingdom will have to acknowledge that it was better with them with their first husband, or God, which was the first kingdom before they fell into sin.

When I have more time, I want to take this and prove these things. I simply do not have time now or feel like it. Have been here all day.

But you are right about Eve being the one who showed Adam his sin or nakedness. I know this because of this: Ge 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

See, Eve called out the sin of Cain. She was the minister of God in this family. She did not condone these sins. I fully believe now, that we see much more about this Godly woman, that she was convicted or smitten in her heart immediately when she sinned. She had the true Spirit of God, and knew immediately that she had sinned and broken fellowship with God.

I fully believe that she repented immediately. She was praising God when her first children were born. So she had turned back to God at the start. This is why she had such a hard life and how she could have told Adam he was naked apart from God. She would have told him, as she mentioned Cain’s sin, trying to get them to repent and turn back to God.

Jo Smith 3/29/08

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