Hi savemy...people call my groovy, or blunty, either one is fine.  I know the heartache you are going through.  And in answer to your question regarding the suicidal threats, yes, it is a HUGE manipulation tool they use.  It's their "poor me" tactic.  They want people to feel sorry for them.  There are some that do actually follow through eventually, but not very many.  My daughter is NPD as well as Psycopathic.  She has played that card since she was 7 years old!  And she made slightly red scratch marks on her wrists all the time to make people think she tried to commit suicide.  She has openly told people she has no intention on doing it, but that she just wants people to think that to feel sorry for her so she can get things from them.  (sick, isn't it?)

 

My daughter is now 6 months along in her first pregnancy.  She is 18 years old, and purposely got pregnant to secure her boyfriend.  She couldn't keep him around any other way, apparently.  I'm sure it will end in disaster.  I cannot get to know her child, as I know it will be used as an object to hurt and manipulate me.  Its a damned cryin shame!  I feel so sorry for the child.  But, like you, if I ever think there is cause for concern, I will certainly go to social services for some action.  You just have to push them to make them actually do anything.  You do have rights!  I suggest excercising them. 

 

There is no cure for this mental disorder, so getting her help will not materialize into anything.  Even if these "N" people could admit there was something wrong with them (which they won't), they are too self absorbed and fake.  There is no cure!  The best thing you can do is run from anything to do with her.  Your grandchild aside, of course.

 

As for you having anything to do with how she is???  NO, don't think that way.  You were a supply for her, just as everyone in the world is to these people.  But you are not the cause of the problem. It is just something born within them from birth.  In their genetic makeup, so to speak.  Nothing you could have done would have ever made that any different.  I wish you all the best of luck with this.  Continue to post, because this is a great community of friends.