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| | | From: Masugu (Original Message) | Sent: 4/17/2003 9:32 PM |
Hi Folks;
Well it looks like my announcement got preempted due to confusion--my apologies. I assume that Laura got the data she needed and its time to move on to Sandy (aka memaw1). Sandy's is our brickwall for the next 7 days. After Sandy will be be Donna (who we most definitely won't forget, LOL) and then Andrea.
Sandy's Brickwall is: Thompson, Wilson, McGee, Perry, posted on 5 November 2002. Sandy's brickwall message reads as follows:
"My brickwall is my father's whole paternal side have his mothers side WAY back
the surnames I am researching mainly are Thompsons from Tenn coming to live in Illinois, Wilson's and McGee's and Perry's all from Illinois Most of them finally settled in Marion and ClayCounty and some straggled over into Fayette but don't think very many. The main Thompson I am looking for is Wiliam Young Thompson b: Sumner Co Tn md: Bethinia McGee b: AR lived in Clay County or Marion County, IL and raised their children there. This clan of Thompsons had a trucking company in Xenia & Salem Illinois and were supposed to have been in partnership with a couple other fellows who started Centralia Cartage trucking Co in Centralia, Marion County, IL would love to find any information on them at all especially William and Bethinia and their children. Thanks a bunch, Sandy"
Next week we'll be doing Donna's Brickwall: 20 Year Old Brickwall......Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted on 5 November 2002.
"I have a brickwall that's been stumping me for over 20 years. It concerns my 2xgr-grandfather Mathew MORRIS....(Note: "James" MAY HAVE BEEN his first ormiddle name). I guess I'll just plunge right in.
Mathew MORRIS--b.1823, OH to Levi & Jemima (LONG) MORRIS; d. 19 Apr 1862,
Paducah, McCracken Co., KY U.S. Hospital. On 14 Sept 1845, in Edgar Co.,
IL, Mathew MORRIS m. Mary [Roseanna?] HENSLEY--b. ca. 1825, IL to James &
Elizabeth (LEWIS) HENSLEY; d. 1 Jan 1895, Jasper Co., MO.
In 1850, Mathew & Elizabeth (LEWIS) MORRIS & their children (Dennis D.
Jemima H., & Ellen Elizabeth) resided in Clay & Richland, Dist. # 14, Clay
Co., IL. By 1855 they had moved to Howard twp, Wayne Co., IA---where they
are found in the 1860 census. Mathew & Elizabeth had 3 more children, all
born in Wayne Co., IA (Mary Ann Catherine, Deborah Jane, & Tabitha
Angelina).
Mathew was a Private in the 18th Infantry MO Vol., Co. B-Private, enlisting
on 17 June 1861, at Putnam Co., MO. He was mustered in on 14 Nov 1861, at
Laclede at Camp Morgan, MO, at age 38. He was wounded at Pittsburg Landing,
TN at the Battle of Shiloh, 6 Apr 1862. He died 13 days later at Paducah,
McCracken Co., KY--U.S. Army Hospital. Mathew's unit was commanded by Capt.
Henry P. Shilts/Stults.
My brickwall-----WHERE IS HE BURIED???? The military records do not show
him being buried in Paducah, KY, & I haven't been able to find him elsewhere.
Hope someone can help me! Donna.....in the Land of Oz, USA"
The following week will Andrea's turn with: Zimmerman, Maurer, Walsh families, Sangamon County. Andrea's Brickwall posting, posted on 4 Nov 2002, follows:
"Below are my husband's ancestors from Sangamon County, IL. This is as far as I have gotten. I need to verify Catherina and John as I have been unable to get information from IL state. I also need to find out when they immigrated, etc. Any help would be appreciated.
Descendants of John Zimmerman
1 John Zimmerman 1827 - 1908 1827 - 1908 d: February 25, 1908 in Springfield, IL Age at birth of first child: 15 est. Age at death: 80 Number of children: 1
.. +Catherina 1830 - 1907 1830 - 1907 d: October 26, 1907 in Springfield, IL Age at birth of first child: 12 est. Age at death: 76 Number of children: 1
........ 2 Joseph ZIMMERMAN 1842 - 1887 1842 - 1887 d: January 22, 1887 in Springfield, IL Age at birth of first child: 37 est. Age at death: 45 est. Age at first Marriage: 31 est. Number of children: 1
............ +Francis Maurer 1845 - 1911 1845 - 1911 d: 1911 in Springfield, IL Age at birth of first child: 34 est. Age at death: 66 est. Age at first Marriage: 28 est. Number of children: 1
................... 3 Josephine Mary ZIMMERMAN 1879 - 1964 1879 - 1964 d: March 12, 1964 in Los Angeles, CA Age at birth of first child: 24 Age at death: 84 Age at first Marriage: 21 est. Number of children: 2
....................... +Edmund Alphonse WALSH 1874 - 1956 1874 - 1956 d: July 21, 1956 in Springfield, IL Age at birth of first child: 28 Age at death: 81 Age at first Marriage: 26 est. Number of children: 2
............................. 4 [1] Josephine Mary WALSH 1903 - 1973 1903 - 1973 d: January 24, 1973 in Los Angeles, CA Age at birth of first child: 41 Age at death: 69 Age at first Marriage: 28 est. Number of children: 1
................................. +Michele GALLEGRA Age at first Marriage: ?
............................. *2nd Husband of [1] Josephine Mary WALSH:
................................. +Walter Brace ROBINSON 1892 - 1963 1892 - 1963 d: January 14, 1963 in Los Angeles, CA Age at birth of first child: 23 Age at death: 70 Age at first Marriage: 22 est. Number of children: 2
........................................ 5 Walter Brace ROBINSON 1945 - 1945 - Age at birth of first child: 28 Age at first Marriage: 26 Number of children: 1
............................................ +Andrea Lee Goldstein 1939 - 1939 - Age at birth of first child: 18 Age at first Marriage: 17 Number of children: 4
.................................................. 6 Yvonne Michelle ROBINSON 1973 - 1974 1973 - 1974 d: August 22, 1974 in UCLA, Los Angeles Age at death: 0
............................. 4 Edmund Alphonse Walsh, Jr. 1906 - 1923 1906 - 1923 d: May 08, 1923 in Springfield, IL Age at death: 17 est."
If any one is still confused by all this please contact mat at mypersonal e-mail address: [email protected]. Cheers, Wayne
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/22/2003 2:03 PM |
WILSON, HENRY MAGLOW, NANCY J 04/13/1876 D /131 CLAY wondering if this could be a Wilson/McGhee marriage |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/22/2003 2:19 PM |
I know I posted this before, but maybe you didn't recognize that Asa was born in Arkansas so maybe you will be able to trace him as a possible brother to Bethena
Source Information: | | Census Place | Xenia, Clay, Illinois | | | Family History Library Film | 1254182 | | | NA Film Number | T9-0182 | | | Page Number | 405D | |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/22/2003 2:34 PM |
| Acey MC GEE | Household | | | | Male | | | |
| | | Other Information: | | | | Birth Year | <1851> | | | | Birthplace | AR | | | | Age | 29 | | | | Occupation | Railroad Laborer | | | | Marital Status | S <Single> | | | | Race | W <White> | | | | Head of Household | John M. KELLEY | | | | Relation | HBro <Half brother> | | | | Father's Birthplace | --- | | | | Mother's Birthplace | AR | | |
| | | Source Information: | | | | Census Place | Auburn, Clark, Illinois | | | | Family History Library Film | 1254181 | | | | NA Film Number | T9-0181 | | | | Page Number | 19C | |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/22/2003 2:42 PM |
| McGee, Acey, 32
McGee, Asa, 15
McGee, J, 61
McGee, Jonathan, 6
McGee, Sally, 15 |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/22/2003 2:44 PM |
the numbers by the McGees are the page numbers |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 4/22/2003 4:27 PM |
Mel;
It looks as though you may have solved the problem with McGee/Kelly.
Margret Kelly is probably Bethenia's mom. What say you, Sandy?
Cheers, Wayne
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/22/2003 9:21 PM |
WAYNE,
THAT IS WHAT I AM HINTING AT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY DEFINITLY...BUT GOSH,
BORN 1828, PLENTY OLD ENOUGH TO BE BETHENA'S MOM.
also thought this Kelly interesting...check the place of birth of mother
Anderson DYHOUSE Self M Male W 62 KY Farmer VA VA
Joann DYHOUSE Wife M Female W 58 VA Keeping House MD VA
George DYHOUSE Son S Male W 15 IL KY VA
Cornelius MC BRIDE SonL M Male W 26 OH Laborer IRE IRE
Lou MC BRIDE Dau M Female W 17 IL KY VA
B. A. KELLEY GSon S Male W 3 IL AR IL
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| | | From: Memaw1 | Sent: 4/22/2003 10:18 PM |
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Hey All I just received 49 messages from IKK alone
and some of them are dated as far back as last Friday. Maybe now I can go
through and see what was sent to me as it took almost 10 minutes for them all to
come through. Will let you all know what I have found. ( after I finish
mowing the lawn before the rain)
Sandy
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THOMPSON
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| | | From: Memaw1 | Sent: 4/22/2003 11:31 PM |
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It sure looks that way this is what has me
fooled. Did she remarry after the death of my grandfather William Thompson
because
In the birth records of some of the kids it list
parents as William Thompson b: Va and Bethinia (McGee) Thompson b: Ar. but
I have a article with a picture of Grandpa's brother Frank and maybe his son Jim
standing in front of a truck from the trucking company they owned in Iuka
although the truck says Salem, IL and it lists him as the son of William
and Bethinia (KELLY) Thompson. This has me really
confused and why she was my main brick wall
Sandy
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Mel;
It looks as though you
may have solved the problem with McGee/Kelly.
Margret Kelly
is probably Bethenia's mom. What say you, Sandy?
Cheers,
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| | | From: Memaw1 | Sent: 4/22/2003 11:46 PM |
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I fully agree nd truly believe that you have
stumbled onto something I missed and didn't have access to the information
anyway LOL. Truly appreciate the help
Sandy
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WAYNE,
THAT IS WHAT I AM
HINTING AT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY DEFINITLY...BUT GOSH,
BORN 1828, PLENTY OLD ENOUGH TO BE BETHENA'S
MOM.
also thought this Kelly interesting...check the
place of birth of mother
Anderson DYHOUSE Self M Male W
62 KY Farmer VA VA
Joann DYHOUSE Wife M Female W 58 VA
Keeping House MD VA
George DYHOUSE Son S Male W 15 IL KY
VA
Cornelius MC BRIDE SonL M Male W 26 OH Laborer IRE
IRE
Lou MC BRIDE Dau M Female W 17 IL KY VA
B. A. KELLEY
GSon S Male W 3 IL AR
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/23/2003 1:20 AM |
The 1880 census is on-line, free, at Familysearch.org...all I did was type
in McGee...Acey was there with Kellys. Typed in Acey McGee, and there he
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 4/23/2003 2:23 AM |
Considering the information below, I don't think I need to search the 1860
Arkansas census records. Yes, she probably remarried, since she had a son,
James Kelly, born 1863 [perhaps Mr Kelly died during the Civil War]. John
Kelly was born in 1850, according to the Auburn, Clark County census. His
mother was born in Arkansas and father in Missouri. His wife, Mary, seems
to be a Bradley, since his single sister-in-law is living with them.
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's
Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John M. KELLEY Self M Male W 30 AR Railroad Laborer MO AR
Mary J. KELLEY Wife M Female W 25 AR Keeping House ENG KY
Thomas W. KELLEY Son S Male W 7 IL At Home AR AR
Clara M. KELLEY Dau S Female W 5 IL At Home AR AR
Maggie L. KELLEY Dau S Female W 3 IL At Home AR AR
Minnie M. KELLEY Dau S Female W 1 IL At Home AR AR
Ellen BRADLEY SisterL S Female W 17 AR At Home ENG KY
Acey MC GEE HBro S Male W 29 AR Railroad Laborer --- AR
George A. PALMER Other S Male W 26 NY Railroad Laborer ENG
NJ
Samuel FITZGERALD Other S Male W 50 IRE Railroad Laborer IRE
IRE
Garrett COLBERT Other S Male W 30 IRE Railroad Laborer IRE
IRE
...... I have a article with a picture of Grandpa's brother Frank and maybe
his son Jim standing in front of a truck from the trucking company they
owned in Iuka although the truck says Salem, IL and it lists him as the son
of William and Bethinia (KELLY) Thompson
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| From: Memaw1 | Sent: 4/22/2003 8:48 PM | | Thi is what I have on file right now as of a 3 days ago. Would it seem logical for me to persue the Kelly line for before she married William or after. I am really stupid when it comes to some of the files I am trying to figure out but intend to check every one of them for leads. Just wasn't sure which end I ought to start with. Sandy IN THE 1870 CENSUS OF CLAY COUNTY, XENIA TWP.,
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THOMPSON, Wm. 25 b: TN
Bethania 20 b: AR.
Arnilia 1 b: IL CLAY COUNTY BIRTH RECORDS 1877 - 1885
16 DECEMBER 1877
THOMPSON, WILLIAM JAMES
FAU.THOMPSON, WILLIAM
MO. BETHENA ( McGee) Thompson
18 October 1880 male still birth IN THE 1880 CLAY COUNTY, IL CENSUS IS THE FOLLOWING RECORDS
205/211
THOMPSON, William 37 M m Farmer Tn Va. Tn
Bethena 29 F w keeping house Ar. IL IL
Anna M. 8 F d single IL Tn Ar.
Mary 5 F d single IL Tn Ar.
William 2 M s single IL Tn Ar.
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