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| | From: Masugu (Original Message) | Sent: 2/3/2003 8:20 PM |
Hey Janie;
Who's our next candidate for demolition? Cheers, Masugu |
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| | From: Janie· | Sent: 2/6/2003 5:05 AM |
And the winner is..........dewheels! This message containing quite a bit of information was posted on the Brick Walls Board on 6/29/02 as follows: From: dewheels (Original Message) | Sent: 6/29/2002 8:22 AM | I am in search of anyone with information about or connections to Malcomb Wheeler. He was born in 1821 in Tn. He later moved to Indiana. He married Jane Frye in 1839 in Clark Co.IL. They moved back and forth between Il and In. They are listed in 1850 census of Greene Co. In. Their children were; James H., b 1841 Benjamin, b 1844, married Mary McCallister Aug 17 1872 William, b 1847 Ephraim, b 1850, married Julia Ann Stewart Nov 11 1872 Charles, b 1854 Malcolm, b 1854, married Corey Wilson July 13 1889 Ephraim and Julia lived and died in Montgomery Co.,Il. Their children were Washestella (Stella or Estella), b 1874 Rufus W., b 1875 Jessie, b 1878 Josephine, b 1881 Arthur Pearl, b 1881 Evelyn Bell (Effie), b 1883 Walter, b 1887, married Gertrude ( Gertie) Linville Nov 16 1886 Cora May, b 1887 Roy C, b 1896 Walter and Gertie lived in and around Hillsboro, Montgomery Co.Il. There Children were; Alice Sophronia, b 1904 Isazdore Thelma, b 1908 Jesse (Chalk) Ephraim, b 1911 Albert (Ab), b 1912 James, b 1911 VY Wanson, b 1919 Mercedes, b 1921 Vincent (Jack), b 1924 Can this poor soul be helped? We shall see! | |
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| | From: Gordon | Sent: 2/6/2003 5:36 AM |
There are a lot of Wheelers in the Land Patent site: You would recognize the names where I would probably miss the one you are looking for. just hit the search for land patent area. |
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 2/7/2003 2:01 AM |
Okay Dale;
Sorry I sent the first message to the wrong guy--I was trying to respond to too many brickwalls at once.
The genealogical winds are not blowing fair for you this evening. Genealogy.com, which has the 1879, 1900 and 1920 Censuses indexed, is so slow that it isn't worth dealing with tonight--I'll try again tomorrow. Ancestry.com, which has the 1920 and 1930 census indexed, is working pretty well and I found some of your kin but I can't look at the census images for Hillsboro in the 1030 Census--processing error. Hopefully they'll get that fixed soon. I did find them in the 1880 index on FamilySearch. What I've gotten so far, follows. Cheers, Masugu
1880 Census, IL, Montgomery, Irving Twp., Page 298d, Roll T621_237, Ephraim Wheeler, Head, M, 30, M, IL, -, - Works on farm Julia Wheeler, Wife, F, 24, M, IL, KY, KY, Keeping house Washie Wheeler, Daughter, F, 6, S, IL, IL, IL Rufus W. Wheeler, Son, M, 4, S, IL, IL, IL Jessie A. Wheeler, Son, M, 2, S, IL, IL, IL
1920 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp., Hillsboro City, Ward 3, ED 96, Sheet 2A, Page 179a, Roll T625_394, Rufus Wheeler, Head, O, M, 42, M, IL, US, IL, Section boss--?Steam Railroad? Ethel Wheeler, Daughter, F, 15, S, IL, IL, IL, Viola Wheeler, Daughter, 13, S, IL, IL, IL,
1920 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp., Taylor Springs Village , ED 204, Sheet 15B, Page 153b, Roll T625_394, Roy Wheeler, Head, R, M, 23, M IL, IL, IL, Laborer--Zinc smelter Madill Wheeler, Wife, F, 24, M, MO, MO, MO, Beatrice Wheeler, Daughter, F, 3, S, IL, IL, MO, Mildred Wheeler, Daughter, F, 18 mos, S, IL, IL, MO,
1920 Census, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp., Taylor Springs Village , ED 204, Sheet 15A, Page 153a , Roll T625_394, Walter Wheeler, Head, R, M, 38, M, IL, IL, IL, Carpenter Gertrude Wheeler, Wife, F, 34, M, IL, IN, IN, Alice Wheeler, Daughter, F, 15, S, IL, IL, IL, Isdore Wheeler, Daughter, F, 13, S IL, IL, IL, Albert Wheeler, Son, M, 6, S, IL, IL, IL, Vy Wheeler, Daughter, F, 2, S, IL, IL, IL,
1930 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp., ED19, Sheet 14A, Roll T626_545, Rufus, 54, --image unavailable
1930 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp., ED 22, Sheet 6A, Roll T626_545 Walter Wheeler, 42--image unavailable
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 2/7/2003 11:58 PM |
Dale;
I'm sure that there's a lot more of value on your family at Genealogy.com. Unfortunately its like slogging through molasses these past few days.--excruciating! I did get the following two census entries though. Masugu
1870 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp., Sheet 63A,Page 114A, Roll 262, Part 1, Jane Wheeler, 44, F, Keeping house, $400, -, IL J. Ben Wheeler, 22, M, Farmer, -, $500, IN Wm Wheeler, 25, M, Farmer, -, $500, IN Eph Wheeler, 22, M, Farmer, -, $600, IN Chas Wheeler, 18, M, Laborer, -, -, IL Jackson Wheeler, 16, M, Laborer, -, -, IL Its obvious that Malcomb is gone and Jane is the head of household. Data on the kids suggests that Malcomb and Jane stayed in IN till ca. 1848, then moved back to IL. The age for James is apparently a mistake and I can't begin to figure why there's a J. Ben instead of 2 separate entries.
1900 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., South Litchfield Twp., Litchfield City, Ward 1, ED 92, Sheet 4B, Page 271b (Read: name, relation, sex, DOB, age, marital status, # of years married, (# of children borne, # surviving), POB, FPOB, MPOB, trade, rents or owns) Ephraim Wheeler, Head, M, Jan 1852, 48, M, 30, IL, IN, IN, Day laborer, Rents house Julia Wheeler, Wife, F, Jan 1854, 46, M, 30, (9, 8), IL, KY, IL, - Washstella Wheeler, Daughter, F, June 1874, 25, S, IL, IL, IL, - Rufus W. Wheeler, Son, M, Apr 1875, 24, S, IL, IL, IL, Day laborer Jessie O. Wheeler, Son, M, May 1877, 23, S, IL, IL, IL, Day laborer Evaline B. Wheeler, Daughter, F, Aug 1883, 16, S, IL, IL, IL, at school Walter Wheeler, Son, M, Oct 1887, 12, S, IL, IL, IL, IL, at school Arthur P. Wheeler, Son, M, Aug 1881, 18, S, IL, IL, IL, at school Roy C. Wheeler, Son, M, Feb 1896, 4, S, IL, IL, IL, - Since only 7 kids are listed I assume that Josephine has left home and that Cora was the child who died.
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 2/8/2003 12:29 AM |
Hi dale;
Well I still can't view the Hillsboro Census images for 1930. However, I
do have a list of all the Wheelers living in Hillsboro Twp. (according to
the census index) in 1930. Cheers, Masugu
Note that Netttie, Lola are listed together & Pearl is within 2 pages of them. The remaining 4 are all together.
| Age: | 35 | Year: | 1930 | | Birthplace: | Illinois | Roll: | T626_545 | | Race: | White | Page: | 2B | | State: | Illinois | ED: | <t
| Age: | 19 | Year: | 1930 | | Birthplace: | | Roll: | T626_545 | | Race: | | Page: | 2B | | State: | Illinois | ED: |
| Age: | 37 | Year: | 1930 | | Birthplace: | Illinois | Roll: | T626_545 | | Race: | White | Page: | 3B | | State: | Illinois | ED: | <td
| Age: | 42 | Year: | 1930 | | Birthplace: | Illinois | Roll: | T626_545 | | Race: | White | Page: | 6A | | State: | Illinois | ED: | <t
| Age: | 12 | Year: | 1930 | | Birthplace: | | Roll: | T626_545 | | Race: | | Page: | 6A | | State: | Illinois | ED: |
| Age: | 8 | Year: | 1930 | | Birthplace: | | Roll: | T626_545 | | Race: | | Page: | 6A | | State: | Illinois | ED: | <td
| Age: | 6 | Year: | 1930 | | Birthplace: | | Roll: | T626_545 | | Race: | | Page: | 6A | | State: | Illinois | ED: | <t
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 2/8/2003 1:58 AM |
Well that lokks like garbage. Lets try it another format. Masugu
Wheelers, 1930 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp, Roll T626_545 Nettie, 35, Head, ED 17, Page 2B Lola, 17, Daughter
Pearl, 37, Head, ED 17, Page 3B
Rufus, 54, Head, ED 19, Page 14A
Walter, 42, Head, ED 22, Page 6A Vijce, 12, Daughter Meredes, 8, Daughter Vinent W., 6, Son
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 2/8/2003 1:41 PM |
Dale;
I winkled out another one. Masugu 1900 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., East Fork Twp., Coffeen Village, ED 76, Sheet 6B, Page 46b, Address: Main Benjamin is living with : John ?Criten?, Head, May 1849, 51, M, 31, WV, WV, WV, Coal miner, owns house Eliza, wife, Jan 1852, 48, M, 30, (1, 1), KY, KY, KY, James H., son, May 1874, 26, IL, WV, KY, coal miner Myrtle L., ?daughter-in-law?, Aug 1882, 17, M, 1, 1, IL, IN, IL, Benjamin Wheeler, ?boarder?, 59, Apr 1841, 59, Wd, IN, TN, IN, Farm laborer
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 2/8/2003 2:23 PM |
Dale;
We hit the jackpot on the 1910 census. Masugu
1910 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Grisham Twp., ED 88, Sheet 2A, Page 278a In 1910 Benjamin lives as a hired man w/ Henry & Frances Flemings Ben Wheeler, 65, Wd, IN, IN, IN, Farm labor,
1910 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Hillsboro Twp., ED 92, Sheet 2B, Page 31b, Address: Omaha St. In 1910, we find Rufus Wheeler, Pearl Wheeler and John Criter living next door to each other. Rufus Wheeler, Head, 33, Wd, IL, IL, IL, Laborer--railroad, Rents house Ethel, daughter, 6, S, IL, IL, IL, none Viola, daughter, 4, S, IL, IL, IL, none Cora Davis, servant, 19, S, IL, IL, IL, servant-private family Pearl Wheeler, Head, 19, M1, IL, IL, IL, Laborer--railroad, Rents house Nettie Wheeler, wife, 17, M1, IL, IL, IL, none John Criter, Head, 58, M1, 30, VA, VA, VA, Laborer--factory, Rents house Mrs. Eliza Criter, wife, 59, M1, 30, (1, 1), KY, KY, KY, Laborer--factory
1910 Census, IL, Montgomery Co., Witt Twp., ED 12, Sheet 5B, Page 279b Walter and Gertie are living with Gertie's parents, Jesse & Sarah Linvill Jesse W. Linvill, Head, 68, M1, 48, IN, NC, IL, Farmer, Owns farm Sarah A. Linvill, wife, 67, M1, 48, (12, 9), IN, OH, OH, none Walter G. Linvill, son, 23, S, IL, IN, IN, Carpenter Walter Wheeler, son-in-law, 20, M1, 2, IL, IN, IN, Farm labor Gertie M. Wheeler, daughter, 23, M1, 2 (2, 2) IL, IN, IN, none Alice S. Wheeler, granddaughter, 5, IL, IL, IL, none Thelma I. Wheeler, granddaughter, 19 mos, IL, IL, IL, none
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 2/8/2003 4:46 PM |
Dale;
I did find one more possible tidbit before Genealogy slowed down to a crawl
again. It may represent an earlier mariage for Ephraim. Als, the nameo Ephraim
Wheeler goes way back in New England genealogies. Given the penchant for
families to repeat certain names over the genwerations it may be worth you
while to do some research on Wheelers, in VT, NH, and MA. This is the last
I'll be doing on this particular query and since I did quite a lot of research
on it I'd appreciate hearing whether you rewceived it or not. Cheers, Masugu
Index to Marriage Record Sullivan County IN 1850-1920
Original Land Record Located: County Clerk's Office, Sullivan
Compiled by Indian Works Progress Administration 1940
Bride/Groom Spouse DOM Book Page
Brewer Roseany Malcom Wheeler Aug 4 1868 3 326
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| | From: angle | Sent: 2/8/2003 6:01 PM |
every body take the time to say thank yopu to all
the people who do research for them i had searched for 10 years to find
something on my gfather willis gaston aND FOUND NOTHING UNTILL A GREAT PERSON
FOUND HIM FOR ME THANK YOU A GAIN
ALMETA |
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