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Brick Walls Bd. : Stephen McCarry-- ANY information
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From: MSN NicknameJugo41  (Original Message)Sent: 8/4/2007 6:09 PM
 
Greetings!!

I am searching for Stephen McCarry. He is my 2nd great grandfather.

My great grandfather (Marion) was born on 11 March 1885 in Pearl, Pike, Illinois. According to his birth register, Stephen McCarry and his mother's name was Lucinda... the last name looks like Martin or Manteir.  Birth place of Stephen was Arkansas (according to Marion's birth record).
 
I also have the birth register for Marion's sister. First name was left blank but supposedly Mabel was her name. Birth date for Mabel was 27 Feb 1883 in Montezuma, Pike County. Birth place for Stephen on this is IL.  The mother's name was Dema (Martin) McCarry.  Stephen's age at the time of Mabel's birth was 27 years of age.  Dema's age was 17.

The following is the family story:

A few months after Marion was born, the mother died. Stephen, his mother-in-law, and the daughter (she would have been about 2 years old) left Pearl, Pike County, IL and headed for St. Louis, never to heard of again.

Marion was raised by a wonderful couple with the last name of Horner.  Isaac Horner and Sarah Gonterman Horner.  He is not in the 1900 census with them so not sure where he is then.

According to some censuses, Marion says his father (Stephen) was born in the United States (real helpful there)... Another census says France... Another says it is unknown...

The mother of Marion was Lucinda and Mabel was Dema (maybe Lodema?)... possibly Martin or Mantier... I am leaning toward Martin...  The Manteir looks a lot like Martin when you look at the other words in the register and compare the handwriting.
 
I found a Lodemia Martin living in Montezuma, Pike County in 1880 census, age was 14. That would definitely work for Mabel's birth.  Her mother's name was Lea, born in Ohio .  No father mentioned but was born in Ohio. 
 
In this 1880 census, there is:
Lea Martin, age 35, head of house, b. OH, pa: b. OH
John Orndoff, 17, son, pa: OH
Lodemia Martin, 14, dau, IL, pa: b. OHOH
Eleanor Martin, 9, dau, IL, pa: b. OH
Samuel Morris, 22, boarder, KY, pa: b KY

I have searched Pike County from top to bottom for information and there is none to be found. I have written to the church were the Horners were members, hoping there was some record of Marion... nothing...

Anybody that has any ideas, help, information would be greatly... Family knowledge is tough as my grandfather (Marion's son) was killed at the age of 29 and my dad was only 7... so there wasn't any family memories passed down. I have spoken with my dad's cousins and they also didn't have much information... I think that stems from Grandpa Marion not knowing much...

Thanks in advance for any help!

Juls


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From: MSN NicknameWayneIKKSent: 8/5/2007 6:01 PM
Hi Juls;

It looks as though the Lema you found in 1880 is the correct one. The name Orndorf/Orendorf(f) figures prominently as Dema's mother Leah was first married to an Orendorff and then to William A. Martin. Dema appears in the 1870 census for Logan Co., IL along with brother (half brother?) George Martin. Mabel McCarey appears in the 1900 census for Kansas City, MO, w/ a Lena Orndorf. Search results follow. Cheers, Wayne

Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763�?900
MARTIN, WILLIAM A ORENDORFF, LEAH 03/08/1866 002/0012 00001440 LOGAN

1870 United States Federal Census, 30 June 1870
Name: Leah Martin
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Age in 1870: 29
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1870: Eminence, Logan, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Atlanta
Family:
Wm Martin 28 M W Farming OH
Leah Martin 29 F W Keeps house OH
George Martin 8 M W At home OH
Dema Martin 3 F W At Home OH
Joseph Martin 1 M W At Home OH
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Eminence, Logan, IL; Roll: M593_248; Sheet: 22B; Page: 197; Image: 397.

1880 United States Federal Census, 16 June 1880
Name: Lodemia Martin
Home in 1880: Montezuma, Pike, Illinois
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to head-of-household: Daughter
Father's birthplace: Ohio
Mother's name: Lea
Mother's birthplace: Ohio
Occupation: At Home
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members:
Lea Martin W F 35 - Wd Keeping House OH OH OH
George Orndoff W M 17 Son S Farm laborer IL OH OH
Lodemia Martin W F 14 Daughter S At home IL OH OH
Eleanor E. Martin W F 9 Daughter S - S IL OH OH
Samuel Morris W M 22 Boarder S Day laborer KY KY KY
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Montezuma, Pike, IL; Roll: T9_243; FH Film: 1254243; Sheet: 24D; Page: 549; ED: 190; Image: 0060.

Illinois Statewide Death Index, Pre�?916
Name of Deceased Date City Age Sex Vol. Page Certificate No. County
ORNDORF, WILLIAM H 07/01/1881 CHICAGO 36 YR U 00007555 COOK

1900 United States Federal Census, 5-6 Jun 1900
Name: Mabel MacCary
Home in 1900: Kansas City Ward 5, Jackson, Missouri
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Illinois
Relationship to head-of-house: Boarder
Race: White
Occupation: Domestic
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Yerian 30
William Yerian 11
Arlie G Yerian 9
George A Leland 60
Lena Orendorf Housekeeper W F Jan 1842 58 Wd 4 2 OH OH OH Housekeeper
Mabel MacCary Boarder W F Feb 1882 18 S IL MO IL Domestic
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Kansas City Ward 5, Jackson, MO; Roll: T623 861; Sheet: 5B; Page: 246; ED: 43.

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From: MSN NicknameJugo41Sent: 8/6/2007 3:56 AM
Holy Crap Wayne!!! You are awesome... Lori (a member here) told me how awesome you and this whole place was!!  Thank you thank you thank you!!!
 
Will definitely start with all this info and see what else I can find!
 
Juls

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From: MSN NicknameJugo41Sent: 8/7/2007 7:16 PM
Just wanted to update...
 
I found that Leah married a Christopher Orendorff in 1859... her maiden name was Bennett...
 
I got a list of references for Orendorff in Logan county so going to work on that...
 
Just wanted to update!
 
Juls

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From: MSN NicknameWayneIKKSent: 8/7/2007 9:26 PM
Hi Juls;

I appreciate the kudos but Mel is just as good, if not better than I am, and she doesn't have the benefit of a 40 year career as a professional analyst/researcher.

However, I'm very gratified to see that you're running with the info I provided--way to go!

Cheers, Wayne

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From: MSN NicknameJugo41Sent: 8/8/2007 1:00 AM
I have heard VERY good things about you both... Just glad I was told about this group... Didn't have a clue until a fellow member told me about it...
 
Juls

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