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| | | From: Coughdrop (Original Message) | Sent: 8/17/2008 5:36 PM |
I am hoping someone has access to the IL State Cen. for Clark Co. My great grandfather married there in 1873: John L. Workman to Margaret E. Fitzgerald, Sep 25. I have not been able to find him in IL before or after though he was born here. On 19 Sep 1874, the couple had a daughter Rosetta Ellen. Margaret had family in Dolson. There were Workmans in Johnson and Marshall. If other information is needed to locate the couple, I will try to provide it. |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 3:28 AM |
There was a John Workman in 1880 Vernon County, Missouri. His wife was Lizzie, however. Lizzie was born in Missouri about 1858. Workman, John 30 famer IL IN IL Lizzie, 22 wife MO IL MO Rose 5 daughter IL IL MO Frank 1 son MO IL MO unnamed son born April 2 months old, MO IL MO |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 3:43 AM |
There is a John Workman in Greene Co., IN, a border county to Clark Co., IL, a son of Jeremiah Workman. In the census records found, though, he was shown born in Indiana. | Name: | Jerremiah Workman | | Estimated Birth Year: | abt 1813 | | Age in 1870: | 57 | | Birthplace: | Ohio | | Home in 1870: | Richland, Greene, Indiana | | Race: | White | | Gender: | Male | | Value of real estate: | View Image | | Post Office: | Bloomfield | | Household Members: | | |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 1:14 PM |
A Frank Workman born 2 March 1879 registered for the draft on September 12, 1918 in Holtville, Imperial Co., CA. He was a shoe salesman for the Charles H. Heer, D.G., Co. out of Green Co., Missouri. Medium height and Medium weight, he had blue eyes and light brown hair. The Green Missouri is what caught my eye, as well as the birth date. |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 1:19 PM |
A John L Workman born November 1852 is found in Rich Hill, Osage Township Bates Co., Missouri in 1900. Widowed, he said he was born in Illinois, with his father born in Indiana and mother in Illinois. I did not find him in 1910. |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 1:25 PM |
I'm thinking the E in Margaret E Fitzgerald is for Elizabeth and that Lizzie is the nickname she was given. |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 1:32 PM |
I don't know if this will help you...it has some conflicting information from what I have given you but sometimes information is altered on purpose...or maybe I've been chasing the wrong guy. It does appear that that 1880 census is correct, however, with Lizzie being John's second wife, and Robert being the baby in the census. ID: I10 Name: John L. WORKMAN Given Name: John L. Surname: Workman Nickname: "J.L." _AKA: Douglas, Clark, IL _MARNM: Margaret Ellen Fitzgerald's husband; m. 25 September, 1873 Sex: M Birth: 1850 in Illinois Death: 1893 of Cirrhosis of the liver DSCR: food faddist; v. hard drinker; pharmacist; blue eyes, brown hair LDS Baptism: status: LIVE Change Date: 5 SEP 2000 at 04:18:47 Father: Jeremiah WORKMAN b: 14 MAR 1832 Mother: Lucinda WORKMAN (MD. NAME) b: NOV 1833 Workman, John L. Marriage 1 Nancy Elizabeth PRICE b: 31 AUG 1856 in Montevallo,Vernon,MO Married: 18 NOV 1877 in Montevallo,Vernon,MO Children Robert Lee WORKMAN b: 8 APR 1880 in Montevallo,Vernon,MO |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 1:50 PM |
A Robert L Workman born April 6, 1881 died in St John's Hospital, Springfield MO. His wife was Alice. He was a Real Estate Agent. His father was given as John Workman and his mother as Lizzie Rice. Both places of birth for his parents were unknown to Alice, the informant. He apparently died of kidney cancer. Having died Oct. 10, 1940, his burial date and place were given as Oct 12, 1940 in San Antonio, Texas. His usual residence was given as the Metropolitin Hotel, Springfield, Greene Co., Missouri. |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 2:04 PM |
| Name: | Gilbert M Atkinson | | Home in 1920: | Wyandotte, Ottawa, Oklahoma | | Age: | >AgeWith12ths('45',true);</SCRIPT> 45 years | | Estimated Birth Year: | abt 1875 | | Birthplace: | Missouri | | Relation to Head of House: | Head | | Spouse's Name: | Rosetta E | | Father's Birth Place: | Kentucky | | Mother's Birth Place: | Missouri | | Marital Status: | Married | | Race: | White | | Sex: | Male | | Home owned: | Rent | | Able to read: | Yes | | Able to Write: | Yes | | Image: | 899 | | Neighbors: | View others on page | | Household Members: | | | |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/19/2008 2:07 PM |
| Name: | Paretta E Alkinson
[Paretta E Atkinson]  | | Age in 1910: | 35 | | Estimated Birth Year: | abt 1875 | | Birthplace: | Illinois | | Relation to Head of House: | Wife | | Father's Birth Place: | Illinois | | Mother's Birth Place: | Illinois | | Spouse's Name: | Gilbert M | | Home in 1910: | Wyandotte, Ottawa, Oklahoma | | Marital Status: | Married | | Race: | White | | Gender: | Female | | Neighbors: | View others on page | | Household Members: | | | |
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That is definitely my grandfather's brother, no doubt about it. I have never seen that information before & wouldn't have looked in Imperial County. Frank lived in Long Beach later, with his wife Marietta and his son Jean. He had a grocery store there. I even have a photo of the three of them in my discarded p.c. Yes, Nancy Elizabeth was John L.'s second wife. He lost Margaret E. Fitzgerald after the birth of his first child, Rosetta Ellen in Clark. John was not only widowed but also divorced. Nancy petitioned for a dissolution of the mg. in 1885, John failed to respond or appear and the dv. was granted. John d. 27 Nov 1909 in Rich Hill. Frank d. 15 Jan 1952 in Los Angeles Co. I have seen Rosetta in the 1900 F. Cen. but not the later ones you found. I cannot believe the distortion in her first name. I have to laugh! That is Rosetta E. with her husband Gilbert and son Fred G. Although Rosetta is bur. Seneca, Newton, MO she died in Wyandotte. She m. Gilbert in 1893 in Seneca. As you saw in the 1880 F. Cen. in Montevallo, Robert had been born in Apr, thus the year on his death cert. is one year too late. I will seriously consider Jeremiah and Cynthia in Richland, Greene. Because they register in earlier censuses, I have looked to them as parents before but I thought I found that son John marrying another party. Yes, John b. 25 Nov 1852 Greene married Mary F. Calvert 1 Jan 1874. His middle initial was "B". Do you think there could be two Johns in Greene born Nov 1852? In Greene, I also have a Jeremiah Workman wed to Cynthia Shipman 7 Sep 1843. I agree w. you, this bears investigating because the Workman family in Shelby leaves many questions. I do think the IL State Cen. of 1875 would help. If John was born to those Workmans, there are so many in household that I still cannot i.d. the parents. I greatly appreciate your interest & the finds--Frank in 1918 and Rosetta in 1910 and 1920. Both Frank & Rob't worked in shoes in Pueblo, CO earlier. What you found reminded me of that. Thank you very big for your EFFORTS! |
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