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| | From: Masugu (Original Message) | Sent: 4/21/2003 11:41 PM |
Hi Folks;
As most of you know I recently received my g-g-granddad's DC and it was a real gold mine of info. What I didn't mention is that it took the State of IL over 10 months to get to it (they're swamped with requests).
I was recently tipped to a look-up service near Springfield who goes in weekly to get DC's on request. She charges $3 per certificate plus postage. I sent her 5 names and she had them in the mail to me the next day! This is apparently one of her sources of regular income so she welcomes the business.
For those members who are out-of-state, this is a real treasure--and a heck of a lot cheaper than SS-5's. Simply look up your ancestor's name in the IL Death Index, then send her the details. She works on a trust system, she'll ship the DC's and e-mail you the bill, you send her a check upon receipt.
Her name is Molly Kennedy and she can be reached at: [email protected]
I've invited her to join IKK but she hasn't responded to the invite yet. Cheers, Wayne |
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 5/17/2003 3:18 PM |
Chris;
They're for the whole state. The fact that they're archived in Springfield simply makes it easy for someone like Maggie to access them. Cheers, Wayne
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FOSTER JAMES M/W UNK 0250200 1932-10-31 EFFINGHAM LIBERTY TWP Is 0250200 the certificate number???? Chris |
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| | From: popcoe | Sent: 5/18/2003 1:07 AM |
Yes that should be the certificate number. Give that info to Molly and she can get you the certficate. Pam |
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| | From: Masugu | Sent: 5/18/2003 3:49 PM |
Hi Saga;
Sorry I didn't answer you sooner on this but I never received your query in e-mail (dang MSN).
In re: "Death certificates for my 1800's Illinois ancestors would be in Springfield?? Is that right? I haven't ever attempted to get a DC. Ar you telling me that the DC's would not be at the court house anyhow? If Mollie was able to get a registration number, then what? would she still ask $3 to research it, even if the result wasn't the actual death cert? I guess you have to know the exact death date? or is the birthdate, county and approx birthdate enough?"
I don't know how many places the DCs might be archived. But I do know that if you use the IL Death index for 1916-1950, and get the indexed data from that, you can ask Molly to get the copies of actual DCs for a cost of $3.00 a piece + postage. (This is very useful for those of us who live out-of-state). I've got 5 more Jaaks DCs coming to me in the mail right now.
The format for the on-line index entries is as follows: Name Sex Race Age Cert # DOD County City Date filed
So if I wanted Miolly to get me a CD for Martha Jaaks, I would send her the following: Jaaks, Martha F W UNK 6031789 1938-122-01 COOK CHICAGO 38-12-02
In re DC's from prior to 1916, she can and has gotten all the index entries for a particular name, in a specific period of time, i.e., Conrad, 1910-1916. But she doesn't do the DCs. (Although I suspect that if you then found the name you wanted in that list that she would be able to get the DC for you.)
In any event, this is how she is supporting herself right now so expect anything you ask her to do to have a nominal cost (very reasonable by-the-way). The $3.00 charge is for DCs.
You might want to ask her what she can and will do--she's a very nice lady, is very knowledgable about genealogy and always goes the extra mile for you (kinda like Mel, Ruth, Les and Carolyn).
(Molly's e-mail address is [email protected])
Cheers, Wayne
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| | From: Richy | Sent: 5/18/2003 11:52 PM |
Chris:
Are you still looking up fosters? If so I'm going to go to my local library this week an do some research an I will see what I can find for you let me know who you are looking for an I will look here on my end for you.
Richy
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Richy, YesI am. I am tryin to find them somewhere in the 1900 census. I cant seem to locate them. Well James Milton FOSTER was born in Macon County, Illinois in 1896. They are somewhere in the area. Also trying to find the deaths of his siblings: Laura Grabb Minnie Royse Florence Smith One problem tho there was a granddaughter of James and Annie Foster with the last name Gritzmacher. Could belong to any of those kids or these kids following: Rosetta Black Corda May These 2 are from separate marriages. Rosetta is the daughter of Mary Ann Coakley and James Foster Corda May is the daughter of Hulda Wells and James Foster Corda May married Ezra Oliver. So, my mother found the marriages of Laura Foster and Corda May and she sent me the following: GRABB, Lawrence FOSTER, Laura 12/20/1917 EFFINGHAM OLIVER, Ezra FOSTER, Corda May 7/11/1909 EFFINGHAM So whatever you can find would be great. Thanks Richy Chris |
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| | From: Janie· | Sent: 5/19/2003 1:53 AM |
How did this discussion end up on the IL Links board?? |
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Janie, Dont know. Richy was the one that asked me. Chris |
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| | From: Melody | Sent: 5/20/2003 5:51 AM |
SAGA,
Before 1911, Death Certificates were not required in the State of Illinois, so if there are death records, they are helter skelter. I have a death record of my GGGrandfather, b. 1805, d. 1891. It is nothing more than a skinny strip of paper because it was cut from a list of deaths in Effingham County. Did I learn anything when I found out he died of old age? Well, at least I didn't have the date of his death, before that. Funny thing is, I got his death record by accident.
I went to Effingham County, Illinois and asked to be shown how to use the microfilm machine [I never did get the time to use it]. Since I have many surnames in that county, I suggested that the genealogy helper just stop at any Hensleys she ran across as she went through the film. This produced two or three pages in the short time we had, with each page having between 6 and 8 death records on it. I didn't recognize any of the Hensleys so stuck the papers in a file, and went back to the books. When I got home, though, I was looking at the other names that were included, thinking I could give the information to the descendants of those people, and there he was! Was quite a surprise.
Usually a better bet is cemetery books when it comes to people dying prior to 1911. Or newspapers. However, some counties were very good about keeping death records pretty early on. Another thought is to look for the county biographies, usually published in the late 1800's. They will often give a lot of information. Another source, if your ancestors were Catholic, of course is the Church.
Mel,
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| | From: M 0 M | Sent: 5/20/2003 4:04 PM |
5/20/03 My posting have been showing up in my mailbox a week later :(
Not all death or birth certificates are at Springfield, or at least that's my understanding. Early one are on file with the county they were born in. I suggest you contact the county Historical and Genealogical Society, they would know what records their county has kept.
Susan
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Popcoe, could you do me a big favor, maybe two? Is there a Gene Brown listed in the phone book for Springfield IL? And could you tell me if there is anyway of finding my aunt, who died at birth? I have looked and looked and I even have a pic of her but I can't find a certificate or where her grave is. Any help would be great. Thanks so much, cindy
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This is some information Molly gave me. If you e-mail her your questions she is great at getting back to you promptly. Chris I beieve it is for all of Illinois. I looked up the certificate numbers and gave them to her. I do not think she does the research she just assits in getting the copies for you and then mails them to you. Hope this helps. Pam 1 - the IRAD holdings at UIS (Univ of IL Springfield campus) - only 5 minutes from my home - but something's goofy about their search engine this evening, so I can't tell if Clay Co records are at this IRAD or at another... but I seem to recall finding some of my dad's family records from Clay Co at the Springfield IRAD - here's the (usually) searchable web site, where you can select the county from a list, & see what all might be relevant to your search - and if the IRAD is UIS, I can get them for you -
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/genealogy/forms/irads rch.html
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| | From: Melody | Sent: 5/21/2003 12:50 PM |
Quilty/Guilty, I can't tell which,
What was your aunt's name, and when did she die. Was it in Sangamon County?
Mel
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% Clay co. look ups are in the Charleston,IL I.R.A.D. or the Carbondale Univ. |
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