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Debate Board : Taking Responsibility for Your Actions?
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From: MSN Nickname«¤Ťu§ħ¥¤»�?/nobr>  (Original Message)Sent: 1/19/2007 8:47 PM
 
I got a question -- again  -- I must be on a roll
 
After reading an article in the paper a while ago -- where the father killed his 2 kids in Perth - mum went shopping and came home to find her hubby had shot the 2 kids and himself -- I got different outlooks to it
 
You know my reaction to it -- I went right off -- as I do when I hear children being hurt -- but then as soon as you talk to others you hear other views like -- he mighta been so depressed and you dont know what its like etc etc
 
True -- I dont know what its like -- I have been down and maybe I have had depression and done nothing about it -- and yes I do feel for people that get down that low I AM a compassionate person
 
but its not just this case -- there is lots on the news
 
which brings me to the question --
 
why is it that whenever something happens -- be it someone kills a child or whatever -- they bring up depression or their childhood??
is there enough help out there?
 
I want to hear your views -- and do you think this is all going too far now with this -- 'blaming'?
When do people take responsibility for their own actions?
I hope this is coming across right what I am trying to say
 
Every single person on this planet has issues or some hardship that they have endured in their lives -- have we not?  -- I agree some more than others
 
So why is it that some can move forward and deal with things and others kill people?
OK thats enough explaining -- think you know where i am coming from ??
 
Am I being harsh when I say -- I dont wanna hear no more excuses - everytime they end up in court for hurting someone -- or covering up the death of a child coz the father had depression or was molested as a child
 
**jumps off her soapbox **
 
if I have offended anyone with this post -- is not my intention but I would like some feedback - please


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From: MSN NicknameJanner__BakerSent: 1/19/2007 9:26 PM
I TO AM SOMEWHAT SADDENED WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE DEATH OF A CHILD. I THEN GET IRKED WHEN I HEAR THE SAME OLD FAMILIAR EXCUSES BEING ROLLED OUT. DRUGS, DRINK ETC. I THEN GET MAD WHEN I READ THE SENTENCE THESE LOW LIFE RECEIVE.
JUST HAD A RECENT CASE HERE WHERE TWO TEENAGE GIRLS DIED IN A ROAD CRASH CAUSED BY THE DISQUALIFIED YOUTH 17 DRIVING LIKE A LUNATIC. THANKFULLY THESE THINGS ARE RARE WHERE I RESIDE, BUT I AM AWAITING THE SENTENCING AMONG MANY OTHERS WITH BAITED BREATH. I THINK THERE WILL BE AN UPROAR WHEN THE JUDGE SENTENCES HIM.
why am I writing in Pink?? Time for Ironing therapy.

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From: MSN NicknameappleokieSent: 1/21/2007 5:19 AM
Tushy, I think we should all be held responsible for our actions.  Some try to work through their difficulties in life but then others push them down and try to forget until they come out in some ugly way.  We are held accountable no matter what.  Maybe it is their attorney that is putting the "sad childhood story" out there in hopes to help with the case.  ?
Apple

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From: MSN NicknameappleokieSent: 1/21/2007 5:20 AM
Uh..........is anyone in here an attorney?    Yikes!

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From: MSN Nickname«¤Ťu§ħ¥¤»�?/nobr>Sent: 1/21/2007 6:52 AM
LOL Apple  -- I have heard that too about the attorneys bringing that into account to help the case -- and I agree -- I think we should be held accountable for what we do

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From: MSN Nicknametama®a_Sent: 1/28/2007 6:37 PM
Bob !!!  Take a deep breath, Bud ! 

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From: MSN NicknameLynni1™♥Sent: 1/29/2007 3:51 AM
Sadly it is so..we are becoming a nation of "victims" and of "enablers", but we are also a nation of survivors. It's just too easy these days to go to a doctor for depression, inability to sleep,trouble in the home..and all the doctor does is give the person a Rx for prozac or whatever...just some drug to help bury the problem til it festers and rears it's head in some ugly violent fashion.

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From: MSN Nickname«¤Ťu§ħ¥¤»�?/nobr>Sent: 1/31/2007 11:08 PM
thats exactly right -- about the drugs being popped so easily -- for every lil thing -- and then we wonder WHY our childrens generation turn to PILLS and DRUGS so easily
 
We as parents ( well I dont but just saying in general) and doctors are administering it out like lollies
 
and well said Charmer -- I do agree with you

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From: MSN Nickname«¤Ťu§ħ¥¤»�?/nobr>Sent: 1/31/2007 11:11 PM
which opens another kettle of fish -- these kids with ADD -- what was it called when we were young??
I dont remember ever seeing that -- and yes I do wonder about it all
 
DRUGS FOR EVERYTHING IS THE ANSWER TODAY
 
Its a sad world!!

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From: MSN Nickname«¤Ťu§ħ¥¤»�?/nobr>Sent: 1/31/2007 11:24 PM
I know 2 families with ADD kids -- one is the oldest of 4 kids --and one is the middle of 3 kids
I am no shrink but I can already tell you the answer just by spending a few days in that house
Those kids need love attention and affection -- not to mention being told how good they are
TIME -- something people are forgetting
This Quality - Quantity Bullshit people spin out is really wearing thin with me
 
ok I have gone off on my lil tangent again -- I will shut up now
sorry if I offended anyone

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From: MSN Nickname«¤Ťu§ħ¥¤»�?/nobr>Sent: 1/31/2007 11:51 PM
I dont usually say much in person to people as I tend to think its none of my business -- so I keep out of peoples affairs -- its their lives and their choices
 
I worked in childcare just over 2years and I was actually appaulled at the attitudes of some parents -- we have become a selfish soceity whether we like to admit it or not
 
and I think its something I am finding hard to deal with -- specially when children are involved  -- I do take alot to heart
after 2 years of working there and even tho they begged for me to stay -- I left -- was not the field I could do and not take things home with me

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From: MSN Nickname«¤Ťu§ħ¥¤»�?/nobr>Sent: 2/1/2007 9:05 PM
-- thats it -- people forget that we arent all the same so why dont people look into things more so -- the indepths of the problem rather than pop out pills -- as Lynni said -- I couldnt agree more
 
To me, everything is fixable - or maybe i am an optimistic person
My house has ended up a halfway house for all kids to pop in and talk -- and that doesnt bother me -- I could see that coming long time ago

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From: MSN Nickname_Blackhose_Spikedheels_Sent: 2/12/2007 6:48 PM
All I know is I'm tired of hearing about people that go nutso and then blame it on their childhood...Am I the only person out there that wasn't abused as a child???  C'mon...
 
It seems every time someone is charged with a horrific crime, that's the excuse they use..
 
I'm sorry..but if you're an adult..and aware enough to say "I was abused as a child"...then you are aware enough to get some kind of help for it...
 
By the way...good topic..:)
 
 

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