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| | | From: Honcho (Original Message) | Sent: 26/05/2004 08:31 |
Does anyone have any feedback or advice on a good, accurate brand/model of powder measure that will throw accurate charges of Red Dot powder? I have 3 types of powder measures, (Lee Perfect, Lee Auto-Disc, and Lyman), and none of them seems to be capable of good charge accuracy with Red Dot powder, and other flake type powders. Would appreciate any feedback! Thanks, Ride Safe, Shoot Safe, Fred (Honcho) |
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I use the Lee perfect myself, and probably will continue to use it untill it disperces its inter workings across the loading bench the problem really isnt the mesure, its the powder you'll find that the best metering powders are sphearical, followed by fine flake (or flattened sphearical) then course grained flake .. and then extruded. particularly when the charge is small. its a simple matter of odd shapes hanging up on eachother. the worst powder I've had the plesure of metering had been 800X ... which basicaly is a can of flamable frisbees a method that seems to tighten up the variation a little is the practice of not just going up and down with the handel on the Lee, but rather move the handel up .. allow it to stay there 2 or 3 seconds so the powder settles a bit, then dispence. take notes as to how much deviation it has, and reduce your load a little to allow for overcharging tendancies. Or if precice loads are your goal Reduce the charge a bit farther, and use a powder trickler to bring it up to weight |
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| | | From: Honcho | Sent: 30/05/2004 04:14 |
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Hey, Turbo,
Thanks for the feedback, yup, I know all
about the "flakey" powders being a pain in the butt to measure accurately, (I've
been handloading for nearly 50 years--), but I was hoping someone had come up
with a more efficient flake powder measure-- There's always the new PAST
electronic measure/scale, or Lyman's new electronic combo, but aside from
the serious money they both want for them, I've heard they are very slow in
operation-- What I've been doing is using the simple, plastic Lee dippers, (I
bought 2 sets, and have cut some of them down to give charges which are in
between what they normally throw), they work O.K., but you still have to trickle
a little powder into the scale, if you want to get them accurate. (I have found
that the charges from either Lee measure, Auto-Disc or Perfect, can be off as
much as a full grain in weight, with flake powders!) I'm going to be l;oading
some .38 Spl. and .357 Magnums tonight, and will give your suggestion a try,
about waiting a few seconds with the Perfect measure. (Have you ever tried using
the regular, round discs with different sized holes in them, for the charges,
using flake powders? I never used them, as I installed a Lee adjustable
"Micro-Disc" slide in the measure, it was a well spent $7. bucks, and gives you
adjustment right on the measure!)
Anyway, will let you know how I made
out!
Thanks, Cheers,
Fred (Honcho)
Shoot Safe, Ride Safe!
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| | | From: Sarge | Sent: 05/10/2007 21:59 |
I haven't had any problem when loading shotshells with Red Dot and the bushing method. But the Lee Perfect give me problems so I quite using it all together. I have an old Lyman powder measure that works good with everything. But occasionally I use the Lee powder dippers and just strike the powder off with a calling card. I get almost perfect weight every time. PS the Lee Perfect powder measure has a little rubber bushing in it that holds powder on it. Then about every third or forth powder measure it dumps the extra down the tube. I couldn't figure out why I was getting hard recoil and bullets out of group until I started weighing every powder measure after dropping them with the Lee Perfect powder measure. That is when I stopped using it. I also sent it back once and they said there was nothing wrong with it. Sarge |
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