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From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 6/18/2004 1:36 AM
 
The Golden Age of Sequels
Blanchett, Kapur return to Elizabeth.
 
June 02, 2004 - The Daily Telegraph reports that a sequel to the critically acclaimed 1998 biopic Elizabeth is in development. Oscar-nominee Cate Blanchett is expected to reprise her role as Queen Elizabeth I. Director Shekhar Kapur will return as well.

The project, tentatively titled Golden Age, is being scripted by Michael Hirst. A draft is expected in six months.
 
"It is about the battle between her life as a monarch and her personal life," Kapur advised the paper. "It ends in the destruction of the Spanish Armada on the larger level."
 
The Four Feathers director then added that "it depends on Cate's schedule and my schedule as to when we start shooting."
 


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From: GreensleevesSent: 6/29/2007 7:59 AM
Previous post on trailer deleted as the link no longer works....better trailer HERE anyways

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/9/2007 10:07 AM
Movie opens in US on Friday, October 12th!

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/16/2007 5:38 AM
Went to see this yesterday.....wait for the DVD   Geoffrey Rush was absolutely wasted as Walsingham, didn't really do a whole lot more than say "Yes, Your Majesty".  Cecil (Burghley) didn't even exist.  The MQOS actress was horrible & they didn't get her execution anywhere near right.  In fact, they had Elizabeth running amuck in some palace on the day of Mary's execution moaning & clutching her guts over it.  I am reasonably certain Elizabeth didn't know about it till it was done & dusted & in fact hurled her secretary in the Tower for a spell for acting on the death warrant.  They had Raleigh portrayed as the big hero against the Armada & the battle scenes were a huge disappointment, nothing to write home about.  The battle scenes in POTC 3 & LOTR 2 were way better.  I thought this was going to pick up where the movie Elizabeth left off, but it focused only on the "holy war" with Spain & its fallout.  Even the Tilbury speech wasn't accurate.
 
On the plus side, great scenery (Hatfield was actually used for the Fotheringhay interiors) & costumes that were fairly accurate to period. Cate Blanchett was superb as Elizabeth.  She got to bitchslap Bess Throckmorton for marrying Raleigh & getting knocked up LOL (sidebar: BT was the granddaughter of HVIIIs bosom pal Nicholas Carew FYI)  Some cousin of hers was tortured personally by Walsingham & executed for his role in the Babington Plot, but I can't for the life of me figure out who he was for real.  And I was mighty shocked as there was NO DUDLEY   I mean, he DIED less than a month after the Armada invasion, & though he was already ill he had charge of the troops at Tilbury.  They just made him disappear!

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From: MSN Nicknamemach47Sent: 10/16/2007 6:14 AM
And I was mighty shocked as there was NO DUDLEY   I mean, he DIED less than a month after the Armada invasion, & though he was already ill he had charge of the troops at Tilbury.  They just made him disappear!
I can understand why they chose to do that. By that time, Leicester was a sick old man, and played no part in the defeat of Spain/Philip II. He was still Bess's old friend, but spent much of his time abed, sick. Although I think, generally speaking, that Leicester did not get the credit he deserved as one of the queen's most valued advisers, I too mayhave left him out of this part of the film, out of respect.

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From: MSN Nicknameterrilee62Sent: 10/16/2007 1:57 PM
Thanks for the warning, Greens.  My DH was actually planning to take me to it as a suprise, but it wasn't playing at the theater we usually go to yet.  He was ready to see Geoffrey Rush as Walsingham, as he loved G.R. as Captain Barbossa in the Pirates of the Carribbean.  He even let me yammer on for about a half an hour giving him the background as to MQOS & the Armada.  I was so looking forward to the Tilbury scene, too bad they botched it. 
 
But no Dudley??? What a missed opportunity - to show the contrast between the aging Dudley & the virle Raleigh while Elizabeth continutes to perpetrate the image of the ageless virgin queen.  The Armada was in 1588, correct?  She would have been 55, while Dudley was about the same age, a life of hard living had aged him tremendously.  Were Francis Drake or the Earl of Essex in this movie?  They, too, were young studs that paid suit to Gloriana.  
 
hmmm, well, here's her speech, trom tudorplace.com
 
My loving people, we have been persuaded by some that we are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit ourselves to armed multitudes for fear of treachery; but, I do assure you, I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people.

Let tyrants fear, I have always so behaved myself, that under God I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and goodwill of my subjects; and, therefore, I am come amongst you as you see at this time, not for my recreation and disport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of battle, to live or die amongst you all - to lay down for my God, and for my kingdoms, and for my people, my honour and my blood even in the dust.

I know I have the body of a weak, feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a King - and of a King of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realm; to which, rather than any dishonour should grow by me, I myself will take up arms - I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field.

I know already, for your forwardness, you have deserved rewards and crowns, and, we do assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. For the meantime, my Lieutenant-General Leicester shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject; not doubting but by your obedience to my General, by your concord in the camp, and your valour in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over these enemies of my God, of my kingdom and of my people."


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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/17/2007 10:57 AM
Yesm all they used was the first paragraph of it....I was sitting there going but....but....where is the stomach bit?   You're spot on about contrasting Raleigh & Dudley there.  Nope, no Drake neither.....wasn't Drake far more instrumental at sea in the Armada crisis than Raleigh ever was?

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/17/2007 11:02 AM
No Essex either....he would have been fairly new-come to court at that time, as Dudley was his "patron" so to speak.  Apparently the movie peeps can't count as they said Elizabeth was 52.  She actually would have been 54 at the time of the Armada as that was in August & she had a September birthday.  Methinks twas the day after her birthday that Dudley died....I could be wrong but I know it was in the beginning of September 1588.

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From: MSN Nicknameterrilee62Sent: 10/17/2007 3:34 PM
Actually, Essex would have been the rising star at court, as he had just been knighted for his service in the Netherlands with his stepfather, Dudley, in 1586.  In 1587, the 20-year old met the 57-year old queen, who became infatuated with him.  In May, 1587, a courtier reported, the Queen often had �?I>nobody with her but my Lord of Essex; and at night my Lord is at cards, or new game or another with her, that he cometh not to his own lodgings till birds sing in the morning�?  If fact, weren't he & Raleigh rivals the the queen's attention?  (Also read that Essex was present when Bess made her stirring speech at Tilbury.)
 
As for Drake, the queen's pirate, I read that he had sailed a small fleet to Cadiz, suprised a number of Spanish warships & burned & sunk around 30 ships in the harbor!  This set back the Armada nearly a whole year.  It gave great heart to the English people, saying that Drake had 'singed the King of Spain's beard'.  
 
Wow- this story would have made a great movie, dontcha think???

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/17/2007 5:29 PM
OK I was close (went & looked it up as it bothered me).....Dudley & Elizabeth shared a birthday (September 7th of 1533), & he died on September 4th of 1588.
 
Yesm methinks they were rivals....Elizabeth seemed to enjoy that LOL as she did it so often.
 
I remember that quote about Drake singing the Spaniards' beards.  There's the apocryphal tale of Drake playing at bowls when the Armada was finally sighted in the English Channel & finished the game before embarking.  Drake & Howard of Effingham were the heroes of the day.....Raleigh's not even mentioned & I been trolling Armada sites.

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/17/2007 8:48 PM
Sir Walter Raleigh played no part in the defeat of the Spanish Armada. It would be interesting to know where he was at the time.

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/18/2007 6:37 AM
Found this:
 
In 1588 Sir Richard Grenville and Raleigh took over the joint defense of Devon and Cornwall against the expected Spanish Armada. They arranged the construction of a series of beacons along the coasts. These were to be lit when the Armada was first sighted.  As it happened, land-based soldiers did little but watch the sea battles from the coast and guard some Spanish prisoners.
 
At his execution in 1618 he asked to see the axe and said "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all Diseases."
 
As was common at the time, his head was embalmed and presented to his wife. She apparently carried it with her at all times until she died 29 years later at the age of 82.
 
The head was finally buried with their son (Carew - like Sir Walter, a one-time Governor of Jersey) alongside the body of Sir Walter to the South side of the alter at St. Margaret's Church. This is just next to Westminster Abbey.

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/18/2007 6:38 AM
OK WHAT is with the head thing???   We had another head-carrier in an earlier discussion someplace   That's just wrong on sooooo many levels LOL

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From: GreensleevesSent: 11/11/2007 1:56 AM
It just came to me in a blinding force of light LOL....Bess Throckmorton's cousin....I couldn't place him as they were investigating the Babington Plot....but there IS the Throckmorton Plot about 4 years before MQOS's execution   Apparently the plots were combined for the movie.

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From: GreensleevesSent: 2/20/2008 7:43 AM
Golden Age is now available on DVD....go for it!  HERE at Amazon they want as much as going to the movies would've cost ya   For $10 more you can get the whole Season 1 of that The Tudors business FYI   They have a few nice pix from the movie down at the bottom of the page, including a Tilbury shot.

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