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| | From:  tudorgalusa (Original Message) | Sent: 2/20/2008 4:39 PM |
Okay, this was mentioned but...who do you love the most. Who pulls at your heart strings, who do you wish you could talk with? For me, my first loves were Lady Jane Grey and Edward VI. As children they were so neglected and left alone with servants alot. No family life to speak of, and how poor Edward ached for his father's attention. And Jane, well we all know how her parents treated her! Comments anyone, anyone? LOL Tudorgalusa |
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Anne Boleyn is hands down my favorite! I would've loved to chat with her and Katharine of Aragon too. One other person I'd have loved to talk to is Jane Rochford. I would so love to ask her what was she thinking! |
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There is the "pliability" factor, Mark's right.....Northumberland definitely enjoyed his power behind the throne gig & had Edward chosen Elizabeth to succeed him rather than Jane, the Dudleys would have been politically marginalized, as she was was old enough & astute enough to rule independently. I have to wonder about regency rules here, because sometimes a monarch was stifled by his regency council until adulthood (Richard II springs to mind, as methinks he was like 22 before he got rid of his & then only because he had finally had it with them, not because they stepped aside of their own accord), yet other times they were allowed to assume power at a much younger age.....wasn't Margaret Beaufort essentially Regent for Henry VIII for 2 months until he turned 18? Edward IV just took the throne at age 18 sans regency at all, while Edward III got rid of Mortimer when he was 17. Edward V, at 14, was considered too young to rule without a regency, & when did Henry VI become "of age"? Now there's a fruitcake that should've had a regency council his whole long reign LOL |
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Whoops, hit send too soon, meant to mention the Scots who do love a good regency as the Royal Book of Records says  Margaret Tudor's spouse, James IV, took power sans regency at like 15 or 16, didn't he? So what's the "correct" age for this sort of thing? |
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Mary Queen of Scots got me by the throat when I was only about 10 years old, and I happened to pick up a child version of her biography. As I got older, I read everything I could.
Sadly, because of my loyalty to Mary, I never liked Elizabeth I. I wouldn't read about her, and wasn't at all interested in her. I still have that bias. Isn't that odd? I finally went out and bought a book about Elizabeth, just to force myself past it, but never got around to reading it. And odder still, I'm a big Anne Boleyn fan. Loved the mother, just not the daughter. |
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I also love Anne Boleyn, I don't think she was the witch she has been portrayed as, but she refused to admit to adultery to save her daughter,which I think was very brave, imagine that child with no mother, and being brought up to never even mention her name, I feel so sorry for the both of them, perhaps thats why Elizabeth grew up to not trust anyone very much, I think it might have had the same effect on me. |
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MQOS and Elizabeth I are both fascinating women in their own right. I would not rule out Elizabeth just because of your early attachment to Mary Stuart. Both of their lives are intertwined most delicately and are worth a look see. There is a really good book out that is called "Elizabeth and Mary" and it shows each lady in her own way and how they dealt with the times. The decisions that both of them made directly affected the other. It is interesting to see how different their personalities were and how similar their challenges to keep their throwns. Tudor |
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If only Anne Boleyn had delivered a son.  How different life would have been for her. Everytime I see a film about her I keep hoping its a boy. How silly of me. I do admire her for her gutsy manner. I also admire Katherine Parr. My heart breaks for Jane Grey. She was so manipulated by her greedy parents. |
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I too admire Lady Jane Grey - used for others purposes but I do love Elizabeth!! |
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I'm thinking Anne refused to admit to adultery because she was innocent of such  How do you figure that by not admitting it, she saved Elizabeth, Georgina? Just curious. |
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I think Anne thought that if she admitted to the adultery then Elizabeth being Henry's child would be questioned, which it was anyway, but she did not want to be responsible for it or make it too easy for Henry to do it. By not admitting there was always room for doubt. The question of Elizabeth being in the succession was very important to Anne. Tudorgalusa |
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She was offered her life, if she admitted to adultery I also think she was innocent, but rather than have her daughter proclaimed a bastard, she had to really give up her own life is there no greater sacrifice??? She could have saved her life, but knowing what Henry was like she had no knowledge of what would happen to her daughter. |
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Neither Anne nor Henry Percy would admit to a precontract to nullify the royal nuptials. As I recall, Cranmer had to trot out that tired old consanguinity device & use Mary Boleyn's affair with Henry to make his marriage to Anne invalid, much as consanguinity was the tactic employed in dissolving his marriage to Catherine. No marriage technically meant no adultery & therefore no treason, but Henry was that determined to be rid of her. I've never heard of any other eleventh-hour offer being made to Anne, who vehemently proclaimed her innocence of all charges at her trial, & it was glaringly obvious that Elizabeth was definitely a Tudor in looks. I don't think there was any possible way out for Anne no matter what she admitted to or didn't; politically, Henry could not afford another "divorce" mess where he had a pair of opposing factions supporting a pair of queens causing domestic & international issues, like he had with Catherine & Anne herself. He also did not want the legitimacy of his offspring with Jane Seymour to be disputed & the succession muddied worse than it already was by those who felt Anne was the "true" queen, were she left alive. He was willing to publicly slap on the cuckold's horns several times over to insure this, so why would he then shrug it off & let her live if she confessed to adultery? |
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My Favorite, Lady Jane Grey! |
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