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The Normans : USA Presidents same as Queen of England
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From: MSN NicknameLadyoftheGlade1  (Original Message)Sent: 9/8/2002 11:35 PM
The Queen of England may be decended from William the Conquerer BUT...
Did you know that 21 of the United States of America's presidents were ALSO decended from
King William I of England???
 
 
Us Presidents descended from William the conquerer
William de Normandy the Conquerer, King of England
Henry I Beauclerc, King of England John Lackland, King of England Henry III Plantagenet, King of England Edward I Longshanks, King of England Edward III
Franklin Pierce, 14th president 1853 - 1857
Rutherford Birchard Hayes, 19th president 1877 - 1881
Calvin Coolidge, 30st president 1923 - 1929 Ulysses Simpson Grant, 18th president 1869 - 1877 James Madison, 4th president 1809 - 1817William Henry Harrison, 9th president 1837 - 1841Millard Fillmore, 13th president 1850 - 1853Grover Cleveland, 22nd president 1885 - 1889
Benjamin Harrison, 23rd president 1889 - 1893Grover Cleveland, 24nd president 1893 - 1897William Howard Taft, 27th president 1909 - 1913Richard Milhous Nixon, 37th president 1969 - 1974
Gerald Rudolph Ford, 38th president 1974 - 1977George Herbert Walker Bush, 41st president 1989 - 1993
George Washington,1st President of the USA 1789 - 1797Thomas Jefferson, 3rd president 1801 - 1809John Quincy Adams, 6th president 1825 - 1829
John Quincy Adams, 6th president 1825 - 1829Theodore Roosevelt, 26th president 1901 - 1909Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd president 1933 - 1945
Zachary Taylor, 12th president 1849 - 1850


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From: atabekârSent: 9/15/2002 11:00 PM
And that's not counting royal bastards ( unaccounted for ) - But , since the early presidents were often descended from the nobility , and some later ones were , though from northern families , and many early northern families are related - as were many well to do southern families - so that many civil war generals were also related ...

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From: MSN NicknameLadyoftheGlade1Sent: 9/17/2002 8:58 PM
Of the early Presidents, I can see where the connections would be made...but if you check out the chart on the original post here(just let your cursor sit on any of the pictures, don't click, it will tell who the picture is of, as these are tiny pics...it is helpful) you will note that some current day Presidents are on this illustrious list.  Namely Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford!

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From: atabekârSent: 9/18/2002 10:47 PM
I knew about Bush being related to Queen E. ; Garfield is descended also from ( I think ) King David of Scotland ...

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From: ForeverAmberSent: 9/19/2002 8:55 AM

LOL!  Look what was waiting for me when I just got online.....too funny!

Does Dubya Have Royal Roots?

By ED JOHNSON

.c The Associated Press

LONDON (Sept. 18) - President Bush, Princess Diana and Winston Churchill are distant relatives whose ancestry can be traced back to a 15th century English squire, genealogists say.

Researchers for the U.S.-based company MyFamily.com, which has a license to publish British census records from 1841 to 1901 on the Internet, found that the trio's roots can be traced to Henry Spencer of Badby, Northamptonshire, who lived between 1420-1478 and was married to Isabella Lincoln.

According to a family tree published on the company's Web site, one of their two sons, William, founded the line that would produce Winston Churchill and Diana, Princess of Wales, whose maiden name was Spencer. Churchill's middle names were Leonard Spencer.

The daughter of the other son, John, married Sir William Cope and the descendants of this line settled in the New World.

They included Anne Marbury, who moved from Lincolnshire, England to Massachusetts during the 1600s. A direct descendent, Harriet Fay, married James Bush, the great-great grandfather of the current president, the company said.

Bush is an admirer of Churchill and keeps in the Oval Office a bronze bust of the British leader - a loan from Prime Minister Tony Blair.

When he received the bust in July 2001, Bush joked that he hoped to develop a personal relationship with the late wartime premier.

``I look forward to visiting with him,'' Bush said. ``Sometimes he'll talk back and sometimes he won't, depending on the stresses of the moment.''

A spokeswoman for MyFamily.com said the discovery was made only recently, and further research was ongoing to find out more about Henry Spencer.

Bush's apparent royal connections have been revealed before.

According to Gary Boyd Roberts, a genealogist at the New England Historic Genealogical Society in Boston, Bush is descended from British royalty going as far back as 12th century King Henry I, the son of William the Conqueror.

09/18/02 10:38 EDT

Copyright 2002 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.

I am also amused by the fact that the writer of this bit of fluff apparently is not well-versed in American history, as he did not seem to realize that Anne Marbury is the maiden name of Anne Hutchinson, who was just featured on our TDIH page for being banished from Massachusetts Bay Colony for dissenting with its Puritan elders, & did not know enough to brag on Dubya being related to a famous AMERICAN as well!

Stonehenge, was he in your monster begats chart & I missed it?  Do you think Dubya & Atebekar could be kissin' cousins?

 


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From: atabekârSent: 9/19/2002 11:33 PM
I wouldn't even have kissed the late Diana Spencer - and don't much approve of W as pres , though a registered republican , and I'm already my own cousin , maybe twice over .

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From: MSN NicknameLadyoftheGlade1Sent: 9/20/2002 1:28 AM
Someone else used to "diss" the Monarchy and Princess Di, awhile back,can't remember who...sheesh

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From: ForeverAmberSent: 9/20/2002 6:43 AM
LOL!  Atebekar's begatting must be more twisted than previously thought!
 
Pish, Stonehenge....our resident cynic, Eddy, of course!

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From: atabekârSent: 9/22/2002 11:15 PM
Well , for a while there , in New England , we had limmited resources , and a lot of people married first cousins thrice removed ; I have a few lines like that , and that's also why so many northerners are related ( though some may have already been cousins , from Merry Old England ) - Garth

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From: atabekârSent: 9/23/2002 9:52 PM
So far , no Bush relationships , but there is a Wm Spencer in the background ...

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From: atabekârSent: 9/28/2002 11:21 PM
Burke's list Wash. , Jeff. , John Q. , Monroe , Harrison ( both ) Lincoln , Grant ( from David I ) Roosevelt ( Rob't II ) Taft ( David I - both of these have Ada de Warrene as an ancestor ) Nixon ;  Garfield from Rhys ap Tewdwr , K. of Dehewbarth ( and Henri I , Yaroslav I , etc. - also noted William deWarrenne was kin to Willliam I ...

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From: Queen of ScotsSent: 11/19/2002 11:47 AM
Welp William is my ancestor.  Down through I seen several names that I have researched on this page.  I am distantly related to Bush.....
 
Fergie is in there somewhere too but I can't remember where.  
 
Amber Might need you to help me sort out my begats more. 

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From: ScholasticaSent: 11/20/2002 3:25 AM
well, I am absolute crushed to find out that Mr. Jefferson had royal blood in his veins; & that Richard Nixon & George HW Bush could even be shown on the same genelogical chart as Mr. Jefferson; I purchased a Mr. Jefferson beanie baby while at the Smithsonian on Friday past; & as a graduate of the University of Virginia, hold Mr. Jefferson in the highest esteem; I think I will have nightmares tonight . . .
oh, & just for the  record W. is a git;
Scholastica

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From: simonSent: 11/25/2003 6:21 PM
Aren't most of us, or at least a high percentage, (English) supposed to be descended from Edward 1?  i think that i have read this somewhere, but could be wrong

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From: MSN NicknameKiltedpiper2Sent: 1/17/2006 2:31 AM
EEEEEEKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! I 'm related to Dubya!!!!!!!! I would commit suicide but it is against the law. YYYYYUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!

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From: MSN Nicknameterrilee62Sent: 1/18/2006 5:34 PM
Can we PLEASE keep 'modern' politics out of this board? 
 
In other words, it's OK by me to question the intelligence on Katherine Howard, dump on H8, or even the hapless R2, but let's keep our discussions in the later middle ages, shall we?  Otherwise, you're bound to offend someone. 
 
'specially when making personal remarks about my president!
(and I take back any remarks I may have made about Prince Phillip's big ears, QE2's fashion sense and Charles' taste in women {Oh, and his ears too, I'm sure I may have mentioned them....})
 
 
 

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