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From: MSN NicknameMuckypup_1981  (Original Message)Sent: 10/13/2008 9:29 PM
 
I don't think think there is any need for this, really.


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From: MSN NicknameLegendaryLisette7Sent: 10/14/2008 12:25 PM
I must say that I agree with Jenny Wormauld.  Even if Mary didn't have any involvement in Darnley's murder, the evidence is rather incriminating.  I also agree that she really wanted to be Queen of England and she didn't seem to have much time for Scotland. I think that I'm fairly unbiased with my very Scottish ancestry! 
 
Also it's madness to bring this up at a time of great economic crisis!

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/14/2008 7:43 PM
It's just a Scottish Nationalist trying to make a name for herself. Westminster Abbey is a Royal Peculiar in that it comes under the direct control of the monarch, not a Bishop. Therefore any decision will have to be made by the Queen herself and I doubt if she'll disturb her ancestor's bones.

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/15/2008 5:24 AM
Well, James plonked her into Westminster, & even tho he wasn't much of a son LOL methinks family had their say in it.  How many postmortem trips do MQOS require here?  James already moved her once from Peterborough.
 
O speaking of Peterborough....did Mary ever nudge Catherine of Aragon out of there?

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/15/2008 7:23 PM
Katherine of Aragon still lies in Peterborough Cathedral. Her tomb was destroyed by the Puritans in 1642, but the site is marked.

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/19/2008 9:10 AM
TYVM   Wonder why Mary never had her relocated as James did to MQOS?

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/19/2008 10:05 AM
It took James nine years to get round to it, so perhaps Mary would have done had she lived longer.

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From: ForeverAmberSent: 10/25/2008 4:03 PM
I'm surprised James bothered at all, considering how close he & Mummy were ROFL  I would've thought Mary would've hopped right to it & had her sainted mother honored as rightful Queen of England & daughter of Spain to sort of further legitimicize her own reign.  Perhaps the brouhaha over her marriage to Philip was enough Spanishness?

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From: MSN Nicknameterrilee62Sent: 10/27/2008 2:31 PM
I have read (somewhere??) that one of Mary Tudor's first Acts of Parliament was to re-legitimize herself, by revalidating her parent's marriage!  She acted like a true Tudor there, remaking history to suit herself!
 
I also read that Elizabeth considered doing the same thing, but was advised by Throckmorton to let it go.  After all, if Elizabeth declared her mother posthumously innocent, what does that make her father?  No, better to keep reminding her people that she was truly Harry's daughter and rarely speak of her mother.
 
Another question, since we're talking about re-burying folk - why didn't James I/VI rebury his sainted father??  The last we hear of Darnley is being painted on that banner, showing Darnley with a halo  and the infant James begging for divine justice.  You'd think that James would want everyone to know that he honored Darnley as his father, since there was some sniggering about his paternity.  (who was it that snarked that James was as wise as Solomon, no suprise because David was his father)?

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/27/2008 4:00 PM
I'd imagine Darnley's somewhere in Edinburgh atm?

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/27/2008 10:59 PM
There's a huge vault in the ruins of Holyrood Abbey where about two dozen or so Stuarts are buried. Their tombs were desecrated centuries ago and the jumble of bones were put together in the one vault. I've read that very little of Lord Darnley was left after his tomb was wrecked, but what little there was is at Holyrood. 

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From: MSN NicknameReplacedJudymarSent: 10/28/2008 3:35 AM
Keep her at Westminister, I'm sure she'd rather be in England that Scotland, the  country she wasn't too fond of after the courts of France. As well, the Scots weren't too happy with her either, why should they want her back now?

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From: MSN Nicknameterrilee62Sent: 10/28/2008 4:14 PM
I'd bet that if Mary QOS had her choice she'd rather be buried in France at the Abbey of St Pierre, near her mother.  Surely her years in France were the happiest of her life.
 
Darnley, on the other hand, is buried at Holyrood, but his skull is at the Edinburgh College of Surgeons , which is how we know he had end-stage syphilis.

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From: GreensleevesSent: 10/28/2008 4:42 PM
Darnley was barely what, 20, 21 when he died?  Good grief, how early did he have to start out & how much did he get around to get to end-stage syph so fast?

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/28/2008 8:40 PM
Ref # 9. One of the first Acts of Mary I's first Parliament in October 1553 was to pass an Act legitimizing Mary by declaring her parents' marriage lawful.

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From: GreensleevesSent: 1/8/2009 3:03 PM
<still pondering the syph question>
 
Well, look at how smarmy Henry VII was, dating his reign from the day BEFORE Bosworth so that everyone who fought for Richard III could be declared traitors.

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