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| | | From: Greensleeves (Original Message) | Sent: 11/4/2002 8:05 PM |
Dee, I am surprised you have not posted on this subject! Recently ran across a Welshman discovering America in the1100s! Rumor has it that Madoc landed in Mobile Bay (that's in Alabama, down south and to the left of Florida on the map for the UK & Aussie members who may not be familiar with it) and that there was a tribe of Welsh-speaking Cherokee Indians. In fact, when Lewis & Clark did their transcontinental trek across the Louisiana Purchase lands in the early 1800s, their mapmaker, a John Evans (Dee, possible begats connection to you?), was a Welshman who was interested in joining the expedition for the express purpose of seing if he could find those Welsh-speaking natives. He was unsuccessful, but isn't it a lovely story anyway? |
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I think Columbus's "discovery" of America was so famed because he was the first to be sent across the ocean that way and it was done by a major European power. However, Chris wasn't too keen, and thought he was in the "Indies". It wasn't until Amerigo Vespucci came along when it was realized that it really wasn't the Indies after all. I've never heard of the Welsh sailor landing on the continent... that's pretty fascinating! I've heard about Christians fleeing from Rome who would land in America, as well as some of the Vikings. |
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Greensleeves, i've never heard such a story! But im fascinated by it!! Must do a bit of surfing later to find out any more info! Btw, my father's name was John Evans, though every other person in Wales is so named too! lol |
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Have done a bit of surfing on this subject. Was surprised to find so much information on it! They even erected a plaque in Mobile Bay to commemorate (spelling?) Madoc! The Welsh websites I visited are convinced of its accuracy (odd we might be but never biased lol) |
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Ok, gang, not just the Vikings, the Romans, or the Welsh......how 'bout those Chinese?  Several Buddhist misionaries took a voyage in the 5th century to the shores of America by mistake! "During the year of Yung Yuan's rule over the Ch'i dynasty in 499 A.D., a priest named Huishen came to Ching Chow. Hui Shen described the Kingdom of Fusang (America?) that was 20,000 li [about 7,000] to the east of Tahan. That country was to the east of China."(written in the Forty-first Book of Chiian in the two hundred and thirtieth volume of the Great Chinese Encyclopedia, compiled by court historians of the Wang emperors from 502 to 556 A.D.) Hui Shen described Fusang as a strange land. He described the people as being remarkably human, civilized, and not barbarian. More than one thousand years passed before Europeans heard of the Chinese discovery. Man, I love the things you can find on the internet! |
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The Vikings left credible evidence ( written and physical ) , the chinese at least written ; St. Brendan's voyage is too vague to say explicitly where he landed up ; Madog I know of from : Louis Lamour ! however , no other cgedible evidence ( that I know of ) exist ; never the less , such voyages were possible . - GarÞ |
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| Anybody else heard the story of Francis Drake when he left to go and sort out pirates in the Caribbean (is that how its spelt?)..and he was chased away by Spanish Pirates. Francis got lost...sailed round the bottem of Brazil and found California...the natives there had a legend about a god coming from the seas..and they thought Francis was their god...they gave him the whole of their land..which was basically the area which is California.. (a university there discovered some plaque or something with this written on....) |
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