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The Plantagenets : Eleanor and Geoffrey
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From: MSN NicknameLadyoftheGlade1  (Original Message)Sent: 8/1/2002 3:31 AM
IN THE BEGGINNING....
 
Several months before Eleanor of Aquitaine met who would become her (2nd) husband, Henry of Anjou (later to become Henry II of England), she knew his father, Geoffrey of Anjou.  It has been suggested that Eleanor and Geoffrey may have had a brief "affair".
 
I don't think so but would like to hear what everyone else thinks and why.


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From: ForeverAmberSent: 8/1/2002 6:50 AM
Well, Eleanor was certainly not your stereotypical medieval woman!  She and Louis were living unhappily ever after & trying to get a divorce.  And when you do the math, Geoffrey was really more her contemporary than Henry was in terms of age.  Geoffrey & Matilda also did not have the best marriage.  So both of them may have been ripe for a fun fling.  What I find interesting is, if they did have a brief liason, was Henry ever made aware of it??? 
 
Also a coinkydink.....have you noticed that there was approximately the same age difference between Henry's parents, & Henry & his wife, in both cases with the dominant woman being the elder partner in the relationship?  Henry ended up not getting along with his wife any better than he got along with his mother.....but there had to be an Oedipal thing going on there!

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From: AnnieBmeSent: 8/6/2002 12:33 AM
Interesting note about the age differences of the two couples being similar.
 
But Matilda HATED Geoffrey, with a passion, from the very beginning !!!  While in Eleanor's case, she and Henry appear to be fairly enamoured with each other (in the beginning).  For certain they were in lust... if not in love !!!

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From: BerengariaSent: 10/28/2002 5:23 PM
This second marriage must have been difficult for Matilda.  She had been the feted Empress of Germany since, what, about age ten?  With a doting elderly husband who probably didn't bother her much in the bedroom, as there were no offspring from this union.  Finally freed by his death, she returned home to England, heir presumptive to the throne, only to be told in no uncertain terms that her chief usefulness was not to be queen, but as a marriage pawn to make a suitable match and breed up strong male heirs to the throne.  Packed off to Anjou to be greeted with a lusty fifteen-year-old bridegroom, demoted to mere Countess when she had been an Empress, deemed unfit by Henry I to be trained properly in the art of statecraft...I am sure Matilda had issues!

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From: MSN NicknameLadyoftheGlade1Sent: 10/11/2004 5:47 PM
Here's another really good discussion from a long time ago (but not a gallaxy far far away)
 
sorry ...couldn't resist that last comment.

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From: MSN NicknamechairbornerangerSent: 3/8/2008 9:49 AM
As Forever Amber has stated Eleanor was NOT the typical woman of her time. She was actually quite magnificent and was known to be quite an enchanting, lively beauty. I think with her temperament and lusty attitude sh would have quite happily taken Geoffrey as a lover. I also think that she taunted Henry with the idea of such an affair in their later years after love and lust had cooled into something more dangerous and insidious. Melanie

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From: GreensleevesSent: 3/8/2008 10:52 AM
I could see Eleanor rubbing infidelities in Henry's face.....he certainly did it to her, so tit for tat.  Eleanor was supposed to have been exceptionally beautiful even as she aged, so maybe after she was done breeding rotten kidlets LOL she indulged herself as well 

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