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Ok, this is like Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon... only "geekier"  Ok... here's how it goes.... name a monarch/member of nobilty from the general era... and trace them back to Henry VIII and the next person has to trace them to Henry VIII (make it as complex as ya want  ) For Joan of Navarre *In 1545, Duke William V of Cleves annulled his marriage to Joan of Navarre, they had no children.
*Joan of Navarre married Antione de Bourbon.
*Their son, Henry married Margaret of Valois becoming King Henry IV of France.
*Margaret was the daughter of King Henry II of France and Catherine de'Medici.
*Catherine's son, Francis II, brother of Margaret, was the first husband of Mary, Queen of Scots.
*Mary's grandmother, Margaret Tudor, Queen Dowager of Scotland, was
sister of KING HENRY VIII. Next..... Margaret of Austria (Regent of Netherlands)
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*Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, was married to Mary Tudor, Queen of France and sister of Henry VIIII *One of their children was Frances Grey, wife of Henry Grey, Marquess of Dorset *One of their children was Lady Jane Grey *Jane was in the household of the Dowager Queen, Catherine Parr, after her marriage to Thomas Seymour, Baron Sudeley *Thomas Seymour's sister was Jane Seymour *Jane Seymour was Henry's third wife and the mother of his heir NEXT: Catherine de Medici |
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Catherine de Medici... Mother of Francis ii, King of France Francis was married to Mary, Queen of Scots Mary's mother was Marie de Guise Henry VIII had proposed marriage to Marie. ***Also.... Mary, QOS's father, James V of Scotland was the son of Margaret Tudor.... Sister to King Henry VIII LOL and Christina of Milan had a lot of other interesting connections to Henry VIII.... including being a courted by William of Cleves, brother of Henry's 4th wife, and companion to Philip I of Spain, husband to Mary, daughter of Henry Next up..... Manuel I, King of Portugal |
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*Manuel was married to not one but TWO princesses of Spain; first Isabella, who had previously been the queen of his predecessor (quite the bidness going on at the Vatican in the Papal Dispensensations: Consanguinity Dept lol); after her death, to her younger sister, Maria! *The two other Spanish princesses were Joanna & Catherine, so I could go at this two ways now: *Joanna, following the death of hubby Philip, was very seriously considered as a bride for the widowed Henry VII (despite the fact that even her dad, Ferdinand, knew she was stark raving mad) *Henry VII, natch, being Henry VIII's pater familias OR *Catherine was sent to England as a bride for Arthur Tudor, Prince of Wales *Arthur was Henry VIII's older brother *Catherine stood in line at the PD:CD lol to marry Henry VIII NEXT UP: Margaret of Burgundy |
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Margaret Plantagenet (Duchess of Burgundy) | | | | | | Family Name: | Plantagenet | Given Names: | Margaret | | | | Born: | 3 May 1446
Fotheringhay, Northamptonshire, England | Died: | 28 Nov 1503
Malines (Mechelen), Belgium
(Age 58, Natural Causes) | | Buried: | Malines (Mechelen), Belgium | | | | Father: | Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York | | Mother: | Cecily Neville (mother of Edward IV and Richard III) | | | | Marriage: | Charles, Duke of Burgundy (The Bold) | | | Date: 9 Jul 1468 | His Age: 35 | Her Age: 22 | | | Place: Damme, Flanders, Belgium | | | No children listed | | | | Notes: | Margaret inherited a tendency towards piety from her mother, Cecily, the Duchess of York.
| Margaret's trousseau for her marriage to Charles, Duke of Burgundy, cost her brother, Edward IV, almost 2500 pounds.
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Oops! Next: George, Duke of Clarence |
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*George's mother was Cecily Neville *Cecily was the daughter of Joan Beaufort *Joan was the daughter of John of Gaunt *John's second wife was Constance of Castile *Constance, through their daughter, Philippa, was the ancestress of Isabella of Castile *Isabella was the mother of Catherine of Aragon *Catherine was Henry VIII's first wife Next: Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian |
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Maximilian and Mary, Duchess of Burgundy had a daughter, Margaret of Austria, who married John (Juan), Prince of Asturias Juan was the son of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castille Juan's sister, Juana, was the mother of the Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V Charles's son, Philip, was the husband of Queen Mary I Mary was the daughter of King Henry VIII *or* Juan's sister, Catherine, was the first wife of King Henry VIII Next up.....Katherine Swynford |
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*Katherine was the mother of John of Gaunt's illigitimate offspring, the Beauforts *Edmund Beaufort, Duke of Somerset, was the father of Margaret Beaufort *Margaret's first husband was Edmund Tudor *Their sole child was Henry Tudor *Henry Tudor married another Beaufort descendent, Elizabeth of York *Their son, of course, being Henry VIII Next: another Katherine, of Valois!  |
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OK, I wanted to make this one a little more twisted than the obvious (OK, Katherine of Valois was Henry VIII's great-grandmother). See if this one works....... Katherine of Valois "married" Owen Tudor Their son Edmund, married Margaret Beaufort Margaret's father was John Beaufort John's sister, Joanna Beaufort, married Ralph Nevill Their daughter, Cecily, married Richard, Duke of York Their son was Edward IV His daughter, Elizabeth of York, was the mother of Henry VIII (and it only took 3 books to come up with this one  ) Now, having looked at a fascinating chart showing the Plantagenet descent of Henry and his Queens, try Henry Percey, known as Hotspur. |
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*Henry "Hotspur" Percy married Elizabeth Mortimer *Her brother Roger Mortimer, Earl of March, had a daughter, Anne *Anne Mortimer married Richard, Earl of Cambridge *Their grandson was Edward IV (formerly the Earl of March) *Edward's eldest daughter was Elizabeth of York *Elizabeth's son was Henry VIII Next: Thomas, last Mowbray Duke of Norfolk |
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*Thomas Mowbray's daughter, Margaret, was sole heir to Norfolk *Margaret Mowbray married Sir Robert Howard, beginning the line of the Howard dukes of Norfolk *Edmund and Elizabeth Howard were Margaret and Robert's great-grandchildren *Edmund's daughter was Catherine Howard *Elizabeth's daughter was Anne Boleyn *Both Catherine and Anne grew up to marry Henry VIII and lose their heads over him! Next: Richard, Earl of Salisbury |
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Teacher, teacher, I have a question!! OK, anyone - I remember reading that as a little boy, Richard, Duke of York (the younger "Prince in the Tower") was betrothed to the little Mowbray heiress - is she Margaret listed above? Also, is the Sir Robert Howard that she married the son of Jack Howard who was so faithful to King Richard 111 ? Thanks for any answers. terri*lee |
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Actually, if I have it right (I love the begatting but they are soooo twisted sometimes), the last Mowbray Duke of Norfolk was Margaret's brother John; his daughter Anne Mowbray was the great heiress who was wed to Richard, Duke of York at the tender age of five. When she died three years later is when the Norfolk lands & titles passed to Margaret's side of the family, the Howards. Jack, I believe, was Margaret & Robert's son, & he became the first Howard Duke of Norfolk. |
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No one ever picked up on Richard, Earl of Salisbury....anyone wanna play?  |
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