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The Tudors : Who did Henry love the most?
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From: MSN Nicknamemanxie400  (Original Message)Sent: 12/5/2007 6:12 PM
Does anyone have an opinion on who King Henry might have
actually loved the most?
I mean, we can only go by books that have been writen I know.
I've always thought after alot of reading that he loved Jane the most.
Plain as she was, she seemed , in my opinion, to have captured
his heart the best. I think it was lust for Anne and the way she
kept herself from him all those years is why he wanted her so badly.
But, for some reason, I just think it was Jane that held his heart.
What does anyone else think? I'd love to hear.


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From: MSN Nicknamemanxie400Sent: 12/6/2007 6:34 PM
Oh I quite agree Henry would've never ceased his woman chasing ways...lol
I guess I think the way I do about Jane is that she was so different than the others.
As in being, from what I've read anyway, the least good looking.
It's true too, we'll never really know since she died so quickly after
giving birth.
 

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From: MSN NicknameReplacedJudymarSent: 12/7/2007 5:43 PM
Who knows how long Jane would have lasted, wasn't she dabbling in Protestism?

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From: MSN NicknameKira0207746Sent: 12/20/2007 12:06 AM
He is buried next to Jane at Windsor.  So, who knows.  I do think that, as someone else said, he loved himself more than he loved anyone else.  I think he loved each of his wives (with the exception of Anne of Cleves) in his own way.  His own way means temporarily, until something better came along.  What a dog he was.

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From: MSN NicknameLadyoftheGlade1Sent: 1/31/2008 2:10 AM
Henry loved the idea of "being in love".  He loved all of his wives...
 
With Catherine of Aragon, he was the Prince in shining armour who rescued the Princess in distress.
 
With Anne Boleyn, it was white hot passion and the "pursuit".  He could play the romancer, the "courtly lover", she was "forbidden fruit" and the impossible dream.
 
With Jane, Henry could play the grieving widower.  As has been said, she was the perfect wife.  She was agreeable, sweet, gave him his longedfore son and then died.  He had no time to tire of her or be able to fault her for not having a son.
 
With Anne of Cleves, he had the comfort of a friend and the loyalty of a sister.  He respected her intellect and wit.  So in those ways he loved her.
 
With Catherine Howard, Henry felt young again.  He loved being the handsome, robust Prince again!  He had won the heart of the beautiful maiden and married her!
 
With Catherine Parr, he loved the quiet family she made for him.  All three of his children were with them at court, Catherine was undemanding and sympathetic to his needs.
 
Yes, he loved them all because they all served HIS needs at the time.  Once they no longer served those needs, he no longer loved them.  So, as someone has already pointed out, it was always, really about Henry.
 

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From: MSN NicknameLouiseOCSent: 1/31/2008 4:56 PM
I don't know who he loved the most, but he loved Katherine of Aragon the longest, he was married to her for longer than the other five put together.  And he was married to her when he was still young and good looking and vigorous.  She definitely had the best of him.

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From: MSN Nicknamemanxie400Sent: 2/4/2008 5:24 PM
He might have been married to Katharine the longest, but
he was buried next to Jane.
That in itself tells me alot.
 

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From: GreensleevesSent: 2/4/2008 5:41 PM
Well, according to Henry, he was never married to Catherine, so of course he couldn't be buried with her.  It would be like him wanting to be buried next to Mary Boleyn or Bessie Blount.  Besides, I am sure any tender feelings he may have had for Catherine were destroyed when she dared oppose him & refuse to step aside.

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From: MSN NicknameKira0207746Sent: 2/4/2008 8:20 PM
Hi - I'm still around.   I'll try to post more.  Don't send me to the tower plllleeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzze.  Its so damp there. 

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From: MSN NicknamesilentsilverscreenSent: 2/4/2008 11:06 PM
I'm still around too. I'd say Jane Seymour. He was buried next to her I believe.

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From: ChArLiESent: 2/5/2008 2:38 AM
lol yeah its totally true. He loved himself most of all. I agree that he seemed to love Katherine of Aragon quite a lot, and Anne was more of a passion that he couldnt attain. That made him want her even more. But its a difficult question to answer, when really, we cant possibly establish what he was feeling at the time with each one of them (anne boleyns letters are an exception) ;);)

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From: MSN Nicknamepainter1295233Sent: 2/5/2008 4:20 AM
I never loved a queen I wed
They ended up divorced or dead
Until I croaked before Kate Parr
Who wanted Seymour from afar!
 
Those broads were nuts! Take Kathy One
Who woulda made a better nun!
She prayed a lot and counted beads
Instead of baking all my seeds!
 
I dumped her when I spotted Anne
Who made me feel more like a man
And promised me a baby king
If she could wear my wedding ring.
 
I boned the dame, then we were wed
And pretty soon whacked off her head
When all she did was make a lass
Then scream at me and give me gas.
 
And so I married chinless Jane
Who wasn't hot and rather plain,
And though she had a bouncing boy
She never gave me any joy.
 
The girl was sick! She'd say. "Not now!
I got a headache! Holy cow!"
I tried to get between her thighs,
But then the broad just up and dies!
 
And then comes Annie straight from Cleaves
Who whinnied and she made me sneeze.
I never gave this queen a try
And told her, "It's divorce or die!"
 
She kept her head, I spied a Rose
Who had no thorns and I proposed
I made her queen, she slept around
And then her head fell on the ground.
 
I gave them all a farmer's chance
And did my best to fake romance
But I could not because you see
I never loved no one but ME!
 
 

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From: GreensleevesSent: 2/5/2008 6:57 PM
 
 
OMG I dunno which lines I like the most ROFLMFAO
 
She prayed a lot and counted beads
Instead of baking all my seeds!
 
When all she did was make a lass
Then scream at me and give me gas.
 
I tried to get between her thighs,
But then the broad just up and dies!
 
And then comes Annie straight from Cleaves
Who whinnied and she made me sneeze.
 
I made her queen, she slept around
And then her head fell on the ground.
 
Dying laughing here LOL LOL LOL
 
Good to see you again, Painter!

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From: MSN Nicknamepainter1295233Sent: 2/6/2008 5:50 AM
Dying laughing here LOL LOL LOL
 
Good to see you again, Painter!
 
Why Thank you Greens! That means a lot
I gave that thingy all I got!
I'm glad you liked my silly post
About who Henry loved the most!
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameReplacedJudymarSent: 2/6/2008 3:06 PM
Love it!
 

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From: GreensleevesSent: 2/6/2008 7:02 PM
Painter, didja see that you are famous over at Tudor History, BTW?  See this thread:
 

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