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From: Greensleeves  (Original Message)Sent: 5/26/2008 11:48 AM
An intriguing thought occurred to me about why it seems the majority of AMTs members are female, as Mark pointed out a while back.  Now just think about this a sec.....
 
If I were asked to give a Top 10 of the Most Fascinating Tudor-Era Women.....I could rattle off Anne Boleyn, Bess of Hardwick, MQOS, Elizabeth, Catherine of Aragon, Frances Brandon, Catherine Parr, Anne of Cleves, Lettice Knollys, Margaret Pole, Margaret Douglas, Margaret Tudor, & still keep going......
 
Were I asked the same query regarding Tudor-era males.....ummm, well, Henry VIII, Robert Dudley, Francis Walsingham, Norfolk.....see, now I gotta think......
 
Isit possible that this historical era seems to appeal to women more than most others because of the amazing amount of interesting women in it?


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From: MSN Nicknameterrilee62Sent: 5/27/2008 1:35 PM
C'mon Greens, ya gotta try harder!!!
 
Besides your list -
 
  1. Henry VIII
  2. Dudley
  3. Walsingham
  4. Norfolk

I thought of

  1. Charles Brandon (any guy that snags that many different women has to be interesting - just can't tell it from his portrait!!)
  2. George Boleyn
  3. Thomas Wyatt the poet
  4. Francis Drake - pirate, explorer & courtier
  5. Walter Raleigh - ditto
  6. Sir William Cecil
  7. Christopher Hatton (the man was faithful to his queen, never married and boy could he dance!)
  8. William Shakespeare - writer of fiction and not history!!!
  9. William Maitland
  10. Jamie Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell (same kinda reasons as Charles Brandon)

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 5/27/2008 2:39 PM
The reason the women mentioned appear to dominate the 16th century is because it was only then that they had the power and influence to do so. In a world of men a woman who rises to the top is worthy of note indeed. Before the Tudors there are only a handful of women who made headlines as it were; the Empress Matilda being the foremost. 

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From: GreensleevesSent: 5/27/2008 8:19 PM
I don't think George Boleyn was terribly interesting  tho Wyatt may be notable just for keeping his head alone.  Somehow I just don't think of Shakespeare as being Tudory even tho he got his start at the end of Elizabeth's reign.  Good list tho
 
Those were just basically the English peeps as far as the women....if you want to go abroad, there's Catherine de Medici who was definitely the power behind the French throne, Diane de Poitiers, Marguerite d'Angouleme, Margaret of Burgundy, Mary of Burgundy, Mary of Guise, Joanna of Castile, old Ironsides Isabella herself.....it seems women were more & more thrust forward into politicking in this period than any other before or mayhap even since.

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From: MSN NicknameMuckypup_1981Sent: 5/27/2008 10:30 PM
Hmmm, never really thought about it but you do kinda have a point - a lot of the interesting people who automatically sping to mind when you think of the Tudors are women.  But there a few more Tudor chaps worthy of note - Thomas More; Thomas Wolsey; Robert Devereaux, Earl of Essex (the naughty scamp ); the Seymour brothers, Cromwell 'n' Cranmer, John Dudley. But I think the ladies win it.  

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From: MSN NicknameLouiseOCSent: 5/28/2008 2:22 PM
I agree there are a lot of interesting women in the Tudor period.  However, every period of history has had interesting women.
 
A really good book about interesting women in history is:
 
'Daughters of Time: 2000 Notable Women: antiquity to the Present' by Vivian Gould

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From: MSN NicknameReplacedJudymarSent: 5/28/2008 9:55 PM
The women of the Tudor times are known to more people than the men are. If someone had never read a book of the times was asked to name a Tudor man, the usual answer would only be Henry VIII, but I'm sure most of the women would be known, especially a couple of his wives.

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From: MSN Nicknamemanxie400Sent: 5/30/2008 5:52 PM
I totally agree with you.
My opinion is...maybe the reason being that there was alot
of intrigue going on with alot of the women.
Even something (be it true or not) as an affair by women were so
looked down on. Males seemed to escape that.
Maybe there were more rumors gosspip etc about women too.
Anything might be said just because of jealousy because one was
possibly 'prettier' than some. Or had more 'beaus'...lol
Who knows.
But you're right on with what you said about the women.
I could'nt agree more...

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