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| | From: Indy75 (Original Message) | Sent: 11/11/2005 6:48 PM |
Hi! I recently lost my best friend Allie (an African Grey Parrot) to a seizure. I handfed her and she was almost 16yrs old. For the past 14yrs I had to medicate her twice a day for the seizures. This meant me and her really were very bonded and I miss her so terribly. My husband is interested in another Grey. He loves the talking ability. I do too but I love the cudiling. Allie would let me cuddle her. My husband and I went to see a Grey and also there is a Lesser Sulphur Cockatoo. The Grey is about a year or more and the cockatoo is 4mths. My husband is willing to buy both. Since I have owned a parrot for the last 16yrs I know impulse buying is not the thing to do. Does anyone have experience with the Lesser Sulphur Cocktoo. The small size of them interest me. I know that spoiling them is a no no from the start. My Grey was always out of her cage since I am always home. She was comfortable staying busy on her cage. My thought that maybe a cockatoo isn't for me might be not being able to keep him out of the cage but not running around the house. I have two dogs. This is a big decision because I know there are individual personalities in each species of birds. If I would have listened to some about the shyness of Greys and the one person bonding I might have not bought her. She was the best bird ever. I know it comes down to how much someone knows about the birds personality and willingness to teach the bird but I think I should learn more about the lesser sulfpur cockatoo. Anyone out there have one? I think I know how to work with Greys but cockatoos I have no experience with.
Indy
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| | From: mompjb | Sent: 11/14/2005 1:27 AM |
HI, I have both a CAG and a Citron Umb - Elvis. I believe the Citron closer to a lessor sulfur if not the same. My Elvis, loves attention, talks alot more than my grey, gives off alot of white powder but so does my grey. Is very playful and full of energy.
Compare to a grey, they are more entertaining, and want more attention. My Elvis does not throw his food only when he is trying to get my attention. He definitely goes to the bathroom more than my grey - not sure why but it is true. Both eat pellet food and vegs/human food.
My grey is happy being by himself, whistling, talking,singing - Elvis the umbrella is happier being with us all day if you let him. You can talk to Clouseau from a distant and he loves it just talking to him. Elvis on the other hand wants you. This is a trait of all Toos. Wanting to be with you and if they dont, they can be screamers. Elvis doesnt scream - he lets out a noise that he repeats repeatedly bopping his head until you notice him. No screaming just showing his jealous.
Now letting him out all day..... my husband works 2 pm - 10 pm, me 8 - 5 so our birds are out most of the time. We talk to them constantly which helps with Elvis wanting to be with us. So being out all day is ok again in my opinion.
I love both - two completely different personalities though. Oh, neither is a cuddly bug, but Elvis loves to me on your hand or arm.
I think either is a good choice. My Elvis is 11 and Clouseau my grey is 12. They are buddies and entertain each other too. If you got both together, they would become buddies too and help each other with their boredom or wanting attention.
Hope this helps. Patti
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I've never posted about this on the boards but now is the time. After my babies died I had to have birds in the house. I'd had birds for so many years and I just didn't know what to do with myself. I got 2 Utoos, a Harliquin Macaw and a B&G. They were all wonderful birds, but I could not connect. I tried so hard and felt so awful for the birds. I shed a lot of tears and finally realized I didn't want A bird, I wanted MY birds. The birds went to wonderful homes and I had no birds. It was 3yrs before I was ready for birds again and 5yrs before I got Savannah, my GW Macaw. My other GW, Noel, was my best friend and soulmate and I had to be sure I could love another one. You are not ready. I know. Both you and the bird will suffer for it. The guilt I felt when I rehomed those birds was unbearable, but it was the right thing to do. It takes time to heal from a loss like this and getting another one too fast is not the answer. Even another grey will not be the same as the one you lost. Savannah and Noel are nothing alike. She is MUCH stronger willed than he was. They didn't feed the same or wean the same or any thing else. About the only thing they have in common is color and size. LOL But the point is, I was ready for HER. I agree that you should put the cages away and give youself some time. One bird cannot replace another, any more than one child can replace another. When you are really ready, you will not feel confused or worried about it. There will always be wonderful birds out there for you. Give youself some time and good luck to you. Peggy |
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Indy, I know next to nothing about cockatoos. I had a breeder pair long ago but they weren't tame enough to handle so I can't help at all--except to give you a link to this site-- www.mytoos.com There is so much reading material in this site. Much of it is scary but some is just good old basic info. I know you want first hand experience from us but those messages seem to be slow in coming. We do have lots of cockatoos owners here, but they must be busy with other things right now. Hope this helps you. Perhaps other Too folks will be by after while to help you. Annie |
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| | From: Pwac21 | Sent: 11/14/2005 7:39 PM |
Since you said you want the good bad and ugly go to www.mytoos.com They have alot of information. Also there is a too group on msn groups. I joined it when I got tiki |
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Indy, I just re-read this whole thread and my last reply sounds like no one has even replied. On the contrary, people I really respect have told you their feelings about cockatoos. I apologize to them for minimizing their input into this thread. Have you had a chance to go thru mytoos. com yet? It is so hard to tell anyone what to expect from a species. The birds are all so different. Some people have sweet cuddly greys, for instance, and I have a pistol. He'd just as soon bite a hole in me as look at me. But he is so funny and enjoyable to watch and listen to that I can put up with the aggressiveness. I have learned to sidestep really fast. Please let us know what you decide to do. We will certainly support you in any decision you make. Annie |
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| | From: momnoah | Sent: 11/15/2005 12:26 AM |
Ok, where do I start? I had 2 Goffin's Toos that were rehomes and both pluckers. I got them in March last year. They were both very sweet even with their issues (which we've been working through) and were totally needy cuddlebugs. They were both plucking much less, playing with toys and with us. They were regrowing feathers... Then 10-2, there was an accident and we lost the little female, Baby Bug. A month and a half later this is still very hard. Kit, the male is plucking again, and more clingy than ever. Since we didn't raise them from a young age, it's hard to judge how they might have been. I know, I know... my birds are spoiled and a good bit of fault is my own. Since my hubby and I are both home almost all the time, the cage doors are rarely closed. As I type this I have Kit on one shoulder and Rica, my rehomed Alexandrine on the other. The bad thing is if I get out of Kit's sight, he'll call... The calls get louder and more panicky sounding the longer I'm out of the room except at bed time when I tell him 'goodnight'. Baby Bug had attached herself to my hubby Michael and every time he left the room she yell 'hello', 'pretty bird', 'Baby Bug', and she barked like a little dog. She was also starting to say somethings that I think were 'Michael' and 'Papa' but I'm not sure as it wasn't very clear. She was afraid of the dark, hated the quiet and being alone. She never minded our cat Monkey, a calico manx mix, but was totally terrified of an orange tabby kitten I fostered for about 2 weeks until I found him a home. She wasn't crazy about the rabbits either. She was a major food mooch. She wanted anything that you were eating and drinking and was very nosy. She has left a very big, very quiet hole in our hearts and in our home. (if you can believe that with a G2, Alexandine, 13 tiels, a dog, a cat, 2 rabbits, and 2 very loud boys) Kit is even more nosy than she was and has picked up her bad habit of wanting to be in the middle of everything you have or are doing. He can be loud when he wants to be though. I wouldn't trade him fo the world. I think only you will know if and when you are ready for any other bird, be it grey, too or some other. I miss Bug terribly, and half of me would love another, but the other half isn't ready yet, if ever. This point was brought home to me when I walked into Petsmart 2 weeks ago to see none other than a little F G2. I felt as if I'd been whopped in the stomache with a baseball bat. It took a good deal of effort to keep my composure. I lost a scarlet macaw 10 years ago. He was in the care of my sister and brother in law while I was getting resettled after a home fire. I don't know to this day if I could ever get another scarlet although I know I'd love another macaw. I can really sypmathize with you Peggy- although I didn't lose any animals in the fire itself, I lost nearly all because of it. You are right to think twice about getting a too. They are extremely needy, totally clingy, demanding loving cuddlebugs and are not for everyone. |
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| | From: Anthony | Sent: 12/12/2005 11:55 PM |
Hi, My Unbrella Cockatoo passed away. My Goffins stopped eating because she missed her Unbrella. I bought another Goffins to try and save my 20 year old Goffins and it did the trick. When I bought the 3 month old Goffins I also bought a 3 month old Grey. I love them both, but I was buying the Goffins for my other Goffins. I would say only buy one. If you want a bird that talks, buy the Grey, if you want a bird to cuttle buy the Cockatoo. Tony |
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Hi Indy75, I have a LSC-Cockatoo, We got her from a rescue guy, she was in a bad way when we got her, But you would never know it now, she is my Hubby's baby, She travels with us in our RV, she will do anything to be with the Hubby, she is so funny when he opens the door and walks in to the house, and speaks, you can hear her little feet coming across the floor as fast as she can, walks over to him and up his pants leg she comes. I have never figure out how to keep her on her cage, she is find till she hears her daddy and away she goes, I don't believe a bulldozer would stop her from getting to him. We have had her over 4 years now, she has never been my bird, but I wanted it that way, I'm just her care giver. If you decide on a Too, they require a lot of your time, are a lest mine does. |
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| | From: Anthony | Sent: 4/21/2006 6:34 PM |
Patti: Does your cockatoo preen your Grey? I am afraid to let my Goffins near my Grey, I think my Grey will hurt my Goffins. They are the same age, 2 yrs. old. Tony |
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| | From: mompjb | Sent: 4/27/2006 2:39 AM |
Anthony, yes a few times a year my Grey prunes my Citron, not very often though. I think at this time of year their hormones kick in and they prune and kiss each other. This is definitely not their normal although they have been with each other for 10 yrs. Clouseau my grey is one year older the Elvis my citron.
I would let your grey get use to the goffin first. My first reaction is they will be ok but keep a good eye on them.
Funny, we had a goffin too. He was so comically, dancing,playing but we ended up selling as I could not tolerate the screaming for me and my husband constantly all day everyday and night. It killed me to do this -long story on this subject. How is your goffin?
good luck let me know what happens. Patti
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I have recently acquired a lesser sulfur crested cockatoo (Phoebe), and she is a very complex but sweet bird. She was hand raised, and that owner died, and his daughter gave her to me. I have had her for two weeks, and she took to me right away. She has nipped very mildly on occasion, but only to let me know that she didn't want to go back in the cage. I did not flinch, so she saw I wasn't afraid, and she has been my little kissy baby ever since. She is a very sweet bird, and says her few little sentences, but she picks up new words when she wants to. She usually does that because it is her way of communicating she wants attention. As far as cockatoos go, she is the sweetest little bird. I have a Moluccan (Peaches) who is very sweet, too (I got her from the same person) but she is a little more independent than the lesser sulfur crested. The Moluccan wants lots of attention, but she doesn't insist on the kisses like the sulfer crested does. I have had both Greys and Macaws, too, and they are very sweet if handraised, and can love more than one person. I would recommend any of these birds to you, I have loved them all. It's all in the love you give them! They are loving and emotional creatures, just like little children, and they all have their own individual personalities. Hope this helps you, Elizabeth, Phoebe and Peaches |
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| | From: Indy75 | Sent: 6/22/2006 6:14 PM |
Hi! I seen this post and wanted to let everyone know I got another grey in December. I was interested in the cockatoo I was talking about but ended up I got neither of those birds. It just didn't feel right. I still really don't know if a cockatoo would be right for me but I love those birds from afar. I had no questions at all when I seen my new baby. He was 14wks old and even though it was hard to be around another bird that wasn't Allie it was love at first site. He will be 11mths soon and is the sweetest thing. I get my cuddles and he is a terrific talker. Traits I love! Even if he grows out of the cuddling he won my heart. Maybe some day I will get a cockatoo but for now the grey suites me great. Indy |
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hi i have a med sulphur who at moment is hormonal,he is also a bit aggressive and unpredictable, not just the cuddly birds people seem to think. |
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