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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 7/31/2005 5:08 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameIsaiah·</NOBR> Sent: 9/18/2002 6:56 AM

Three Days and Nights.

By: Jo Smith

Which day was Jesus crucified? Which day did he rise from the dead? Let’s examine the Word of God for this answer.

Matt.12: 38-40---Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

v39--But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

v40--For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS in the heart of the earth.

Three days AND Three nights = 72 hours.

Jonah 1:17---Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Three days AND Three nights = 72 hours.

Matt. 16:21---From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Mark 10:34---And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

I think it is significant here, that Jesus prophecied in detail the things which would be done to him.

Luke 24:7---Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

Going by Gen. 1---we find that the morning and the evening were one day. So, God is counting the 12 hours in a day, and the 12 hours in a night to be one full day.

Mark 8:31---And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and AFTER three days rise again. This three days includes the 12 hours of day; and the 12 hours of night; according to Gen.1. and John 11:9,10.

John 2: 19---Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and IN three days I will raise it up.

v21---But he spake of the temple of his body.

Now, this IN THREE DAYS shows that the resurrection COULD NOT have gone over, even one minute, into the fourth day; if it had, then it would not have been IN THREE DAYS.

Since Mark 8:31 said AFTER THREE DAYS --- and John 2:19 said IN THREE DAYS, this means it had to have been EXACTLY 72 hours = three days (12 hours each; ) and three nights (12 hours each),

3 days and 3 nights = 24 hours x 3 = 72 hours. 3 days and 3 nights.

John 17:1---These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the HOUR is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee.

They had tried, on several occasions to kill Jesus; but he had escaped from them; for he had said mine hour is NOT yet come. So, they could not kill him until the EXACT time God had set. Just as his birth was in the fullness of time: just exactly the time God had set.

Matt. 24:36---But of that day and hour knoweth no man no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

This shows that there is an EXACT time set by the Father for Jesus to return. No one knows that time except the Father; not even Jesus. But there is an EXACT moment set for this to occur. So God is precise in all that He does.

The death and resurrection of Jesus is no exception. It is exactly as God planned it; to the moment.

The resurrection took place at exactly the same time of day that he died and was buried ----three days later. This had to be in order for Jesus to be raised three days later; after the third day; in the third day; at the moment three days and three nights were finished = 72 hours.

Matt. 27:45-50--- Shows that Jesus died at the ninth hour.

Mk. 15:34-37 also shows this.

Luke 23:44-46 also shows this.

The ninth hour was 3 p.m.

Lev. 23:24-32--- This shows that God set up a special Sabbath, (not the weekly Sabbath)--for the children of Israel, to keep. This special Sabbath, an High day, was kept, v32, in the ninth day of the Seventh month, at even. This was the day of atonement.

They were to do no work on this day. If any one did, they were to be killed. This day of atonement, was the pre-shadowering of the Day of the crucifixion. So, this seventh month, on the ninth day , was the day of the crucifixion. Their year started with April. So this would make the crucifixion to fall on Oct. 9.

So, at even, on the ninth day of Oct. they kept this special Sabbath. It started at even, which would have been the ending of that day. So their day of atonement was the 10th day of the month. This was the Sabbath (the high Day Sabbath; not the weekly Sabbath.).

Their law was that one must be buried before Sundown. Their day ended at sundown. So Jesus had to be buried before Sundown (6 p.m.) that day.

John 19:31---The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that Sabbath day was an high day,) ..... .

Now, people have supposed that this meant Friday; for they read so casually, they just think this Sabbath was the weekly Sabbath.

But, see that the Word said, very plainly, that this was an high day; which means it was this SPECIAL SABBATH. This special Sabbath could fall on any day of the week. It was to be the 10th day of the 7th month; so, it could fall on any weekly day.

v33--he was dead already.

v42--There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews�?preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.

Remember, this preparation day was for the high Sabbath; not the weekly Sabbath.

Now, this shows that Jesus was put into the grave just before 6 p.m. or the closing of that day. But WHICH DAY WAS THIS?

Remember, Jesus had to be in the grave exactly 72 hours = 3 days and 3 nights; no more and no less.

John 20:1--The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

v2--Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

This was the first day of the week; while it is still dark; and Jesus was already out of the tomb.

Matt. 28:1--In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

v2--And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

v5---And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

v6---He is not here: for he is risen, as he said.

Mark 16:2--And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

v6--Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

Notice, that NONE of these Scriptures say that Jesus ROSE on the first day of the week. They all say that by the time Mary arrived, while it was still dark, Jesus was not there. He had already risen BEFORE she came.

Mark 16:9---Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary...

Some suppose that this is saying that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, but it is saying this is when he appeared to Mary.

The ‘was risen�?is past perfect tense, meaning it had already happened.

Now, since Jesus was to be in the grave only 72 hours; no more and no less; he had to have come out of the grave just before the weekly Sabbath was over. This bears out with all the accounts of when Mary discovers that Jesus has already resurrected.

Now, they took Jesus and buried him on the day before the preparation; but this was the preparation of the High Day Sabbath; which that year fell on Thursday. So, this would have been Wednesday evening when Jesus died. This also matches what Daniel said that he would be cut off in the midst of the week; meaning in the middle of the week. Wednesday is exactly in the middle of the week.

The women prepared spices to take to the tomb on the preparation for the weekly Sabbath. See, that two Sabbaths and two preparations are involved in this week.

So, count. From 6 p.m. on Wednesday until 6 p.m. on Thursday gives one full day and night time = 24 hours.

From 6 p.m. Thursday until 6 p.m. Friday gives another full day and night time = 48 hours.

From 6 p.m. Friday until 6 p.m. Saturday gives the full three days and nights = 72 hours.

This is the only thing which could possibly fit the Scriptures given in this study: that when Mary came to the tomb early on the first day of the week, Jesus was ALREADY risen.

In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn TOWARD the first day of the week, she came.

Jesus said in the third day; Mark said after the third day. So by putting these together, we find that it had to be exactly 72 hours; no more and no less. If it were less, then Mark would not be right. If were not the full 72 hours, then Jesus would not be right in saying in the third day.

So, it is easy to see that the world has been deceived about all this. They were brought into this deception by the Catholic Church; which changed this to fit their worship of the fish god and of a female deity they worship called Fryer. This is why they say Good Friday; and why they eat fish on this day.

People of God, come out from under all these lies and get to the real truth of God’s Word. All this Easter and Good Friday stuff is total idolatry.

Jesus died late Wednesday evening and rose late Saturday evening. That is what the Day of Atonement, kept on the 10th day of the 7th month, represents. So, Jesus was crucified on the ninth day of October. How does this fit the set time of Easter? Also notice, that it was a cold time. Peter stood by a fire to warm himself that night.

I hope this is clear and that some of you will study this and find it to be food for your soul.

You know what? I learned something myself as I did this message. I had never heard nor even thought it myself until I was studying that Scripture in Lev. about the Day of Atonement, that this revealed the exact time of the crucifixion.

God showed me that just now, as I did this message. I have never heard this from anyone.

One day, back in the early 80's, as I was reading in Job 3, God revealed to me that Feb. 30th was the day of Jesus' birth.

Now, today, Nov. 2, 2001, as I did this message, God revealed to me the exact date of the crucifixion.

Wonder? Maybe some other 'unknown' special day will be revealed? Maybe.

God bless you all.

You know, some may think that Jesus did not resurrect on the weekly Sabbath; but this proves that He did: John 19:31--The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

See, they wanted to get these three men dead, and down off the crosses and buried before the Sabbath started. Since, we all know that their days started and closed at 6 p.m., we know they had to have died before that time.

The Word makes it clear that Jesus died at the nineth hour (3 p.m.). So, this proves they had him in the grave BEFORE that Sabbath started.

Since the Word proves Jesus had to be dead EXACTLY 72 hours, no more and no less, then Jesus HAD TO HAVE RESURRECTED BEFORE THE WEEKLY SABBATH ENDED.

If he had not raised before the Sabbath ended, then he would have been in the grave MORE than the 3 days and 3 nights. That would mean that he raised up in the 4th day. Then Jesus' word that he would raise up in the 3rd day would not be true.

He died at 3 p.m. They buried him sometime before 6 p.m. So, he rose at that time, 3 days later. So, it was between 3 and 6 p.m. on Saturday that He rose.

So, Jesus raised on the Sabbath Day.

This has never been taught by the church world that I know of.

I realized that the Word says that Jesus was crucified at the time of the passover. This was in the first month of the year.

It is always on the 14th day of the month. So, for the world's 'Easter' to come at vairable times, proves this is not being done because of the resurrection. For, if it were, it would always have the same date. The 14th day of the month could come on any day of the week. It would not always be on the week-end.

If Jesus had been crucified on Friday, and the word plainly shows that he died at the ninth hour, being 3 p.m., and was buried before the sundown hour of 6 p.m., then he would have been in the grave only one day and two nights.

So, this is not true to the Word. For Jesus said he would be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth.

I want to do some more studying on that Day of Atonement: what it represents. The Special Sabbath at the time of the crucifixion was that of the passover.

You must read all 4 gospels together to get a full picture of the events as they occured. God fixed it that way so people would have to 'study' the Word. You will not just casually read and get the truth.

The writers recorded different parts of the events; just as you and I would tell if we were both talking of something we both saw. We might not say just the same thing; but what we both said would be true. If you put together what each said, you will get a full understanding of it.

Mark 16:2 did NOT say AFTER the sun rose: it said at the rising of the sun.

They would have arrived while it was still dark; but just as the sun began to come up.

This is how lies get started. You need to pray for God to give you some faith. Your soul is in grave danger from calling God's word a lie.

You need to admit that the Catholic Church has deceived you and the whole world. You need to see that this mixed up thinking of yours cannot be faith. It will lead you into eternal destruction if you do not come out from it. If you care to have eternal life, you need to turn to God and pray for some true faith. I hope you find it.

 

 



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From: joieSent: 7/31/2005 5:10 AM
From: joie Sent: 9/18/2002 12:53 PM
Thank you Isaiah, for finding and posting this great message. May God richly bless and bring many into more light as these messges are sent out once again.  Jesus is coming soon.  Better get ready.
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 4/16/2006 9:40 PM
I wonder if anyone can tell me where it is written in Scripture to do egg hunts, sunrise services and buy new clothes in REMEMBRANCE OF HIS DEATH....TO SHOW THE LORD'S DEATH TILL HE COME??????
 
Can anyone of you tell me how colored eggs, rabbits, baskets, and other such junk came to have something to do with the death and resurrection of Jesus? 
I truly would like to know this matter!
 
Can any of you who indulge in this idol junk give us even one verse upholding this silly MESS?
 
matter  of fact   is I KNOW YOU CANNOT!   [then how do you justify this devil worship?]

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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 4/16/2006 10:59 PM
    Easter is a day that is honered by nearly all of contemporary Christianity and is used to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    The holiday often involves a church service at sunrise, a feast which includes an "Easter Ham", decorated eggs and stories about rabbits.

    Those who love truth learn to ask questions, and many questions must be asked regarding the holiday of Easter.

    Is it truly the day when Jesus arose from the dead? Where did all of the strange customs come from, which have nothing to do with the resurrection of our Saviour?

    The purpose of this tract is to help answer those questions, and to help those who seek truth to draw their own conclusions.

    The first thing we must understand is that professing Christians were not the only ones who celebrated a festival called "Easter."

    "Ishtar", which is pronounced "Easter" was a day that commemorated the resurrection of one of their gods that they called "Tammuz", who was believed to be the only begotten son of the moon-goddess and the sun-god.

    In those ancient times, there was a man named Nimrod, who was the grandson of one of Noah's son named Ham.

    Ham had a son named Cush who married a woman named Semiramis.Cush and Semiramis then had a son named him "Nimrod."

    After the death of his father, Nimrod married his own mother and became a powerful King.

    The Bible tells of of this man, Nimrod, in Genesis 10:8-10 as follows: "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad,and Calneh, in the land of Shinar."

    Nimrod became a god-man to the people and Semiramis, his wife and mother, became the powerful Queen of ancient Babylon.

    Nimrod was eventually killed by an enemy, and his body was cut in pieces and sent to various parts of his kingdom.

    Semiramis had all of the parts gathered, except for one part that could not be found.

    That missing part was his reproductive organ. Semiramis claimed that Nimrod could not come back to life without it and told the people of Babylon that Nimrod had ascended to the sun and was now to be called "Baal", the sun god.

    Queen Semiramis also proclaimed that Baal would be present on earth in the form of a flame, whether candle or lamp, when used in worship.

    Semiramis was creating a mystery religion, and with the help of Satan, she set herself up as a goddess.

    Semiramis claimed that she was immaculately conceived.

    She taught that the moon was a goddess that went through a 28 day cycle and ovulated when full.

    She further claimed that she came down from the moon in a giant moon egg that fell into the Euphrates River.

    This was to have happened at the time of the first full moon after the spring equinox.

    Semiramis became known as "Ishtar" which is pronounced "Easter", and her moon egg became known as "Ishtar's" egg."

    Ishtar soon became pregnant and claimed that it was the rays of the sun-god Baal that caused her to conceive.

    The son that she brought forth was named Tammuz.

    Tammuz was noted to be especially fond of rabbits, and they became sacred in the ancient religion, because Tammuz was believed to be the son of the sun-god, Baal. Tammuz, like his supposed father, became a hunter.

    The day came when Tammuz was killed by a wild pig.

    Queen Ishtar told the people that Tammuz was now ascended to his father, Baal, and that the two of them would be with the worshippers in the sacred candle or lamp flame as Father, Son and Spirit.

    Ishtar, who was now worshipped as the "Mother of God and Queen of Heaven", continued to build her mystery religion.

    The queen told the worshippers that when Tammuz was killed by the wild pig, some of his blood fell on the stump of an evergreen tree, and the stump grew into a full new tree overnight. This made the evergreen tree sacred by the blood of Tammuz.

    She also proclaimed a forty day period of time of sorrow each year prior to the anniversary of the death of Tammuz.

    During this time, no meat was to be eaten.

    Worshippers were to meditate upon the sacred mysteries of Baal and Tammuz, and to make the sign of the "T" in front of their hearts as they worshipped.

    They also ate sacred cakes with the marking of a "T" or cross on the top.

    Every year, on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox, a celebration was made.

    It was Ishtar's Sunday and was celebrated with rabbits and eggs.

    Ishtar also proclaimed that because Tammuz was killed by a pig, that a pig must be eaten on that Sunday.

    By now, the readers of this tract should have made the connection that paganism has infiltrated the contemporary "Christian" churches, and further study indicates that this paganism came in by way of the Roman Catholic System.

    The truth is that Easter has nothing whatsoever to do with the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    We also know that Easter can be as much as three weeks away from the Passover, because the pagan holiday is always set as the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox.

    Some have wondered why the word "Easter" is in the the King James Bible.

    It is because Acts, chapter 12, tells us that it was the evil King Herod, who was planning to celebrate Easter, and not the Christians.

    The true Passover and pagan Easter sometimes coincide, but in some years, they are a great distance apart.

    So much more could be said, and we have much more information for you, if you are a seeker of the truth.

    We know that the Bible tells us in John 4:24, "God is a spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

    The truth is that the forty days of Lent, eggs, rabbits,hot cross buns and the Easter ham have everything to do with the ancient pagan religion of Mystery Babylon.These are all antichrist activities!

    Satan is a master deceiver, and has filled the lives of well-meaning, professing Christians with idolatry.

    These things bring the wrath of God upon children of disobedience, who try to make pagan customs of Baal worship Christian.

    You must answer for your activities and for what you teach your children.

    These customs of Easter honor Baal, who is also Satan, and is still worshipped as the "Rising Sun" and his house is the "House of the Rising Sun."

    How many churches have "sunrise services" on Ishtar's day and face the rising sun in the East?

    How many will use colored eggs and rabbit stories, as they did in ancient Babylon.

    These things are no joke, any more than Judgement day is a joke.

    I pray to God that this tract will cause you to search for more truth.

    We will be glad to help you by providing more information and by praying for you.

    These are the last days, and it is time to repent, come out and be separate.

    David J.  Meyer

    Last Trumpet Ministries International
    PO Box 806
    Beaver Dam, WI 53916


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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 4/16/2006 11:05 PM

Eze. 8-

1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me. ( Remember this sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month)

2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.

3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.

4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.

5 Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.

6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

7 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door. ( This is what we are doing with all this idolatry that we are bringing out. We are digging and digging to try to bring the truth to you about all this evil.)

9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here. ( See we are going in and bringing out this evil.)

10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.

11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.

12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth. ?( They are doing all this evil and even saying and thinking in their imagination that the Lord does not see them and does not care what they are doing.)

13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.

14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. (See your Tammaz there that was brought out in the message about Easter above.)

15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. (

Ok there is your sunrise service. They are worshipping the sun toward the east. Also remember that I told you to remember this sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month. Ok here it says that they were worshipping the sun. So if the sum was coming up this plainly shows another day which would make it be the 6 year, 6 month and the 6 day. In other words 666 the mark of the beast, devil worship. If you are attending any of these that is also what you are doing. Worshipping the beast. )

16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. ( Ok we know what the door is right? The door is Jesus====

John10:7

Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

10:8

All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

With their faces toward the east. The word east does not mean what you think it means as a direction. The word east here means the front, aforetime, ancient time, old, past.

And they worshipped the sun toward the east. Who did this, what did he call them? Did he not say that they were the ancients of the house of Israel?

Now we know the sun comes up in the east and sets in the west. So see what happened they had their backs to God. THE BIBLE SAYS THE SUN WENT DOWN ON THE PROPHETS. So what they were trying to do is come to God the OT WAY LAW. AS PEOPLE TODAY ARE. They are over there with their maypole worship, Santa Claus and with their Easter Bunnies, Easter eggs also they are worshipping their buildings which GOD does not dwell in any more. They are saying well it is not going to hurt anything, God does not see us and any way he does not care. WE are doing it the same way the ancients did it. They have being doing this for years and years. But look what he said below.

17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 4/17/2006 7:52 PM
Thank you, Acts2:38, for posting these messages.  A Christian friend asked me a couple of days ago to print out the message on Three days and nights for him.
 
He was asking me about this pagan holiday.  Seemed to think that because he did not tell his children that the 'rabbit' brought the eggs, that it was fine then to do the egg hunt thing.
 
That is sooooooooo foolish!  I asked him where God said do any of this junk!  He KNOWS  it is not of God.   (then how do they justify it?)  [do you think God will excuse this weak-shilly-shally mess called 'christian stuff' ?  I say no!
 
When I have a little more free time, I want to print out the messages you posted also and give them to this person.
 
How I do thank and praise my God for opening my 'EYES'  and delivering me from these junkie, messie, idol days!!!

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 4/17/2006 8:11 PM
Acts 2:381, I have saved the above messages to my documents and am now going to print this out to give our friend.  Again, thanks.  God bless you.
glad to see you posting here again.
 
I will print this message out now as I get ready to go to my job.
 
Love you all,
me

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 4/24/2006 2:07 AM
 
I would like to invite any of you who would like to,  to join our 'sister' site and help build this up for the glory of God.  Let us reach the world with truth.
 
 
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 4/26/2006 1:50 AM
I wonder if anyone has taken the time yet, to study this message?  Do any of care?  Or do you already know all of this?
 
You who are new here and disputing this,  take Scripture and prove your ideas.  I have taken the Word of God and proven Jesus died on Wednesday, stayed 72 hours in death and then raised up again at around 3PM  on the weekly Sabbath.
 
If he raised up at the time of death, it would be 3pm.  If at the time of burial, then it would have been before 6pm on the weekly Sabbath.
 
I go by Written Scripture.  What do you go by?

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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 4/26/2006 9:20 PM
We will be glad when these new ones bring forth revelation that proves otherwise, but I see not how, when it has already been proven with the scriptures that Jesus died on a Wednesday and rose again on the on the weekly Sabbath.
 
Bring forth your written scripture, this is all that will surfice here. Only the Word will surfice.   

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 4/27/2006 12:16 AM
Acts 2:38,  that is so true.  The Word spoken by Jesus himself, proved that he would be EXACTLY 72 hours in the grave.....no more and no less......
 
I mean, after all,  why should the Creator God have to be mixed up, guess, hit-or-miss on His timing......after all,,,,,he set the sun in rotation and it NEVER MISSES A BEAT.
 
He had set the time for his Son's birth, 
 his Son's death, 
 His Son's amount of time in the grave,
and the time for His Son's resurrection.......
.he also has set the time for His Son's return.....
and not even his Son knows that time.
 
Now, so His timing has to always be PERFECT,,,,,,HE DID NOT MISS A SECOND. ....else the sun would fail.
Glory.
One would think THEY  ( the ones calling themselves bornagain,  His Children)  would REJOICE at our Father's PERFECTION!!
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 4/27/2006 12:47 AM
I have a 'confession-correction' to make here.  I truly should not have left this statement in my original message.....for I felt the Spirit of God 
'check'  me on this matter when I was doing this message..
 
I was reading in Lev. 23....reading ....not studying...and noticed the thing about the atonement being in the seventh month....I jumped too fast...and ,,,,,knowing that Jesus' death was our atonement,,,,said it was in the seventh month.
then later, while still writing the message,,,remembered the pass-over was in the first month.....
if you read the full message,,you will see that I came back later in the message and said it was in the first month.
 
I had meant to go back and remove that part of the seventh month death......but forgot it...then decided to leave it to see if anyone ever read it close enough to catch that....I truly did not believe anyone ever would.....it took a long time.
 
At this time, I still do not have the revelation on what all those sabbaths and holy convocation days fully show or mean.
 
I had meant to study on this.....but running such a group keeps one very busy....so did not get to it.....and forgot it.
Now I am praying for this answer.
 
So, the part of his death being in the seventh month, I ,  too,  do not know this answer.  It seems to me it had to be in the first month....at the time of the passover.
 
But I truly do not at this time, have that full answer.  As I see it, the crucifixion had to be in the first month-(which some say was April.)  I do not know what they called the first month.
 
But the part of the three days and three nights is sure and certain.  If any of you can count 3 days and 3 nights out of Friday evening to Sunday morning,  please show that to me.
 
Have any of studied this enough to even see that the Sabbath it spoke of was not the weekly Sabbath?  If you do not know that, you have no idea of this timing at all.
 
Let's study this.  Any takers? 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 5/4/2006 12:48 AM
Here is the proof that the word, Easter, in Acts 12, is NOT a mistranslation.  This Scripture is evern more proof about old Jerusalem being the mama whore, for she had already, in the days of the Apostles, set up the heathen, idol holiday of Easter to fall at the same time as their old passover feast.  This was in order to deceive others with.  It has worked.
 
Instead of people realizing that this is proof that these devil-worship days were already set up BEFORE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ORIGINATED, AND THAT HEROD WAS CELEBRATING EASTER IS THAT DAY, THEY HAVE THE AUDASITY TO CALL GOD A  LIE AND HIS WORD FALSE.
 
BEWARE!  aLL WHO CALL GOD A LIE ARE IN SERIOUS ETERNAL TROUBLE!
I am warning you all!
 
Now I wish to show you this:  Contrary to 'popular' thinking, the Catholic Church is NOT THE MAMA WHORE.  She is only one of the whore's daughters, along with all the other churches.
 
I have solidly proven, beyond any doubt, that old Jerusalem,  {law}, old Israel, is that mama whore.
 
For proof, Jesus said that in Jerusalem had all the blood been shed on this earth, beginning with ABEL!  The same thing is said in Rev. to Babylon.  Jerusalem, law, As that old Babylon whore.  Jesus said Jerusalem is GUILTY of killing ALL THE PROPHETS AND SAINTS.
 
That is ALL THE PROOF ONE NEEDS.
 
Now:  See that in the days of the Apostles, old Jerusalem had ALREADY set her idol Easter celebration at the same time as the unleavened bread of the passover of the Jews, IN ORDER TO DECEIVE THE WORLD....OF WHICH YOU ARE ALL STILL DECEIVED BY HER DOINGS TODAY.
 
Else, you would know that Herod was celebrating EASTER,  NOT PASSOVER.
He was the one going to WAIT UNTIL HIS HOLIDAY [EASTER] WAS OVER.
 
The Christians knew that they were now no longer to observe the passover feast, nor any other OT feast, for they were now Baptized into the New Testament of the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.......NOT THE BLOOD OF ANIMALS.
 
So where is your 'revelation'?

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 5/27/2006 3:17 AM
 
If Jesus had said I will be in the grave parts of 3 days, fine, you would have it.........BUT.....
 
HE  said he would be three.......days.........AND..
.....three........nights in the grave..
 
Now, no matter what strongs or anyone else says about time,  in order for there to be three nights involved here,  time HAD TO HAVE GONE PAST a 12 hour day, in order for a night to follow.........THEN.....a 12 hour night had to have  passed.......in
order...for another day to follow...
THEN......
another 12 hour day  had to have passed in order for another night to follow...
THEN....
another 12 hour night had to have passed in order for another day to follow......
THEN....
ANOTHER 12 hour day  had to have passed in order for another night to follow....and on until
THREE DAYS  (EACH 12 HOURS LONG)  .......AND
THREE NIGHTS  (EACH 12 HOURS LONG)........HAD TO HAVE PASSED IN ORDER FOR Jesus to rise after that third day...
 
Now, you and strongs  prove this wrong......no amount of 'jewing' it up will change this TRUTH.
 
Now if it were parts of a day and parts of a night,  how in this world did a night follow a day and a day follow a night without the FULL TIME PASSING?  How could there be three nights involved unless three days passed in full?  and how could three days be involved without three full nights passing?  You are soooooooo  foolish!
 
I believe what JESUS said,  not what you say.
Everyone will have to answer to God for whom they believe,  this deluded man, or God.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 5/27/2006 7:09 PM
 
Please explain to me how you can count 3 nights, by just using a part of three days?
You say Jesus died late on Friday>?  So this would be only a part of Friday, a very short part of that day....then 1 night.
Sat. would be the only full day..then second night...
then you say he rose very early on Sun. morning?
 
The word says as it began to DAWN    TOWARD the first day of the week, Jesus was already risen.......so this rules out that day and certainly that night....
 
So how does this add up to any 3 days and 3 night?  This could only give 2 nights at best...so
Coffeman knows more than Jesus did.   in his own words, Jesus had to have LIED TO US.....else the KJV is not to be trusted at ALL.
 
Perhaps Jesus did not even exist?  Perhaps there was never any crucifixion?  Perhaps there was not even one day and night in the grave?  who could know?
 
If you cannot trust that Book, then where and how do you even know there is a God?

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