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| | | From: joie (Original Message) | Sent: 1/29/2003 6:28 PM |
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What must we do to be saved? I consider this the most important question you can ask, or find the answer to. Life here is so very short. But I fully believe we will live on in another world; either in perfect bliss forever with the Lord; or in torment in hell. So I would say it is too important to just 'take' someone else's word for this. If you care about your soul and where you will spend eternity, you owe it to yourself to do as Jesus said, Search the Scritpures, for in them you THINK you have eternal life. They are they which testify of me. So, let's search the Scritpures in this discussion and find out exactly what does God require of us; not what some church or other organization says about it. They do not have the power to either save us or send us to hell. Only God has that power; so only God can tell us His truth of how to be saved. I can assure you, it is laid out plainly in the Word of God. God desires for each of us to be saved, so he did not deceived us as to how to be saved. If one does not make it, it will be because you did not care enough to study and obey. So, let's all enter into this discussion with only the Written Word of God, not some other material. 
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| | From:  Isaiah· | Sent: 1/31/2003 4:36 PM |
| joie, I would just like to add some things to your message while they are on my mind. By the way this is a great series that you have done here. Hope you don't mind.
- John 1:29~~~~~~~~The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. ( So we see that if our sins are going to be remitted it has to be through Jesus that taketh away the sins.)
Heb. 9:22-28~~~~~~ - 9:22~~~
- And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. ( We see that there had to be a death before there was remission of sin.)
| - 9:23~~~It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
| - 9:24~~~For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
| - 9:25~~~~Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
| - 9:26~~~~~For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. (The putting away of sin was the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross at Calvary)
| - 9:27~~~~~~And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: ?( It was appointed unto Jesus to die for our sins.)
| - 9:28~~~~~~~So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
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- Romans 5:8~~~~~~~~ But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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God, in His grace, provided a way of atonement through the blood of Jesus Christ shed on the cross. Without His sacrifice, we could not hope to truly know God. Because of the sacrifice that he made for us we can be saved. In fact... The GOSPEL of Jesus Christ is the ONLY way we can be SAVED. -
He said in John 14:6~~~~~~~ " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. ( So we see the way to God is through Jesus".) -
1 Timothy 2:5~~~~~~ "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." -
Romans 1:16 ~~~~For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 1 Cor. 15: 1-3~~~~~~~~ - 15:1
- Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
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- By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
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- For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures
- 15:4
- And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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- And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
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- In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
The Gospel is not simply a message to be believed, but it is a message to be obeyed. We must identify with the Gospel, making the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus personal to us. In other words, we must apply the Gospel of Jesus Christ to our lives. - Luke 24:46~~~~~~~~~
- And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
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- And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
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- And ye are witnesses of these things.
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- And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high
Peter stood up and preached the first gospel message of the Church Age. He preached the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord (Acts 2:22-36). Upon hearing the Gospel, the people were "pricked in their heart, and said to Peter and to the rest of the apostles, men and brethren, what shall we do?" (Acts 2:37) They had believed the Gospel message, and wanted to know how to apply it to their lives. They knew that they could not be saved by the OT covenant any more. They knew that this was a new move of God. They knew this which was what the prophet of Joel had prophised. - Acts 2:17-18~~~~~~~~
- And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
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- And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
| Peter answered and said:" Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 2:38-39 Acts 2:38 is the Original New Testament Plan of Salvation and the only one. Acts 2:38 shows us how to take on the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Just as Jesus died, we must die. Jesus was buried, and we too must be buried. And just as Jesus rose from the grave, we too must rise again. Acts 2:38 shows us how and this is the only way and the only plan to be saved. If you are trying some other way, you are trying to enter in as a thief and a robber. You have to come in the door and that door is the one that Peter had to key to. "Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." - Jesus (Rev. 3:20) Peter has opened the door and Jesus is knocking, now the choice is yours. Joie and myself have presented the true plan of salvation to you just as Peter did on the day of Pentecost. Are you going to be as some of them? Acts 2:41~~~ Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. Or are you going to be like they were in John 6~~~~~~~~ 60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? ( Is this hard for you to hear?) 61~~~ When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? ( Does what joie and myself teach about salvaton offend you?) 67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? ( will you go away also? The decision is yours. May the Lord bless you with the right one. |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 1/31/2003 8:50 PM |
|   Thank you Brother Isaiah, for that wonderful and very true message. It is so well done. I am so thankful you came and did this next step. I have so much else to take care of, it is hard to find the time to keep this thread going. Yet this is actually, In my opinion, the most important subject; not only on this board, but in life. Wouldn't it be wonderful if our preaching this same message Peter preached that first day of Salvation, would be able to bring 3,000 souls into the kingdom of Jesus? I would be thankful for just three. I wish to say something here about the second step into salvation. After one has obey from the heart the message above from Romans 10, to believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead and confess Him with your mouth ........ Now you cannot stop there and say, Now I have salvation. There are many churches in this land who have taken that faulty stand. I say this false doctrine will probably be responsible for send more people to hell than any other. BUT....... you must follow that next step, recorded In Peter's message in Acts 2------ REPENT! Now many people make the mistake of thinking that REPENTANCE means asking forgiveness for sins. But NO! That is NOT what repentance is. Repentance means being sorry for your sins; giving them up; then putting forth the effort to AMEND your life. In other words, as Jesus told the woman and the man he healed, GO AND SIN NO MORE. Now this is not saying that (as you look at the flesh, you do not make mistakes; it means you purpose in your heart, truthfully, not to commit those sins again). Until one reaches this point in their life, they can go no further into finding salvation. God will NEVER forgive ones sins as long as that person has it in their heart to continue doing them. That is NOT REPENTANCE. You must absolutely make up your mind not to commit sin again. If you steal, you must make up your mind not to steal anymore. You cannot ask God to forgive it, knowing in your heart you intend to steal some more. This does not work with God. Jo | |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/3/2003 5:21 AM |
| Mark 16: 15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17. And these signs shall follow them that
believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
| | | Verse 16 said if you BELIEVE and are BAPTIZED, you shall be saved. Now most people deny that baptism has anything to do with being saved ~ But I ask you to read it carefully and honestly. Does it not use the very same words recorded in Romans, that if you believe you SHALL BE SAVED? Then if you use that to say you must believe to be saved, this same word here says you must be baptized to be saved. It is the same words, so how can you drop this one and say the other one is right? This is not being true to the Word of God. If God said believe and you shall be saved; and you believe this --- then when He said believe and BE BAPTIZED, and you shall be saved, then don't you see that he only told you something more about how to be saved here in Mark than he stated in Romans? All of the word of God is written this way; part of it here; another part there; so you must study and put it altogether to have a full explaination of anything. Shall be saved is future tense; it is not something which is complete yet. It is STILL FUTURE TENSE FOR ALL OF US. So we will keep adding the things God said we must do in order TO BE SAVED. YOU MUST OBEY IT ALL. | | |
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Joie, I much disagree with the doctrine of baptism for salvation. I believe it dishonors God. Without going into all the verses on the subject here, I will attach a letter which quite well cover it. I realize I may have to leave this web site, for it is doubtful that believers who have been indoctrinated this way a long time, seldom change. So, I will just share this and leave: A LETTER REGARDING BAPTISM FOR SALVATION Dear Mr.____________: Regarding your interest in the subject of baptism for salvation, I will try to respond to your questions. I will share some information then leave you to your "closet" (Matt.6:6) to talk with God, since only He can teach one. First, I must say, one can imbibe this erroneous reasoning by not understanding the difference between the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God. Also, if one fails to see that baptism of repentance is not the same as baptism to Christ, they can get confused (Acts 19:1-6). You have emphasized that baptism always precedes salvation, yet that is not what we see in Acts 18:8 or Colossians 2:11-12. Many receive Christ at the point of death and are not baptized. One should also note that salvation is often implied as occurring before baptism (e.g. Acts 8:35-36; Acts 16:31-33; etc.), but either way God is glorified by the faithfulness of it. Baptism is important to bring one into the sphere of blessing and privilege, like circumcision for Israel (see also I Sam.2:30). It honors God, but doesn't cleanse one of sin (see I Pet.3:21). "Ye must be born again" (John 3:7) to be saved, and that is by grace, faith, and the new birth, not by works. God says it is "not by works of righteousness which we have done" (Titus 3:5). How could one do works down in "an horrible pit" (Psa.40:2)? See also Isaiah 64:6 which says: "all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags". It doesn't matter whether one is baptized before or after they are saved. One should not get ceremonial about it, like Roman Catholics and their rituals to earn an entrance to heaven. Many verses show salvation is by faith with no mention of baptism (see Luke 23:39-43; John 3:14-16; Rom.3:24-26; II Tim.1:9; etc.). Please note John 3:14 and compare with Numbers 21:8 to see that salvation is by a look of faith on the finished and perfect work of Christ on the cross. We must not try to add our works to that and dishonor Him who paid such a great price to redeem us. Consider the following verses often misused by false teachers: Mark 16:16 was a word to Israel and the world for repentance. It does not refer to salvation of the soul. To be saved means to be preserved or kept, and is used in different ways in the Word of God. The verse is in two parts. It says he that continues to believe and is baptized shall be preserved (honored); and he that believes not shall be condemned. This is consistent with all other references. It is referring to the kingdom of heaven, not the kingdom of God. It speaks only of repentance (see Matt.3:1-11; Acts 13: 24; especially Acts 19:1-6). Acts 2:36-38 says to the men of Israel to repent, which implies believing and conformity to Christ; and to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ (unto) remission of sins, and ye shall (then) receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Salvation is by the indwelling of the Spirit, not by baptism. Baptism is obedience to show faithfulness. Acts 8:12-25 is very important and should be studied prayerfully to see that baptism is not salvation or eternal life. Only the indwelling and sealing of the Spirit can bring salvation, and that was imparted to all present, except Simon the sorcerer, who was not faithful. He only believed (allowed) what Phillip was saying, like Judas Iscariot and some other curious followers seeking gain. Acts 22:16 is rendered in another translation as saying that in addition to being baptized unto Christ, he should "have thy sins washed away calling on the Name of the Lord". This is consistent with all other references (note Rom.10). Salvation is not by our works of baptism or any other work. It is the free gift of God to true believers. God looks on the heart (I Sam.16:7). Rom.6:3-4 refers to the testimony, being baptized unto (not into) Jesus Christ, and it is "like" unto Christ's work---taking a stand with Him. Gal.3:27 should be rendered unto (not into) Christ, and again refers to obedience and the testimony, not the spiritual new birth and salvation. Into or unto is the Greek word "eis", and it depends on how it is used. Unto (or near) the truth or Name of Christ is not salvation. Many have come near and heard and accepted (or allowed) the truth, but were not "born again" (saved). This was true in Bible times, as well as today. We can no way be baptized "into" Christ, for sinners are lost and down in a "horrible pit" (Psa. 40:1-3). We can only "look up", as shown in John 3:14. Col.2:11-12 also refers to obedience and faithfulness in baptism as the result of God's work in our soul. God saves and we respond by faith. Baptism does not save. Titus 3:5 tells us that God saves, not by our righteous works, but by our embracing the truth (washing of regeneration), and the work of God in our soul (renewing of the Holy Ghost). Baptism only says we have embraced the truth. I Pet.3:21 clearly says baptism is a figure and not for cleansing the flesh. It is only the "answer of a good conscience". It is not salvation of the soul. Now, my friend, I don't mean to be unkind. I only wish to share these thoughts. Please see the attached papers which may help to explain what baptism really is. The issue is whether one chooses to believe he must do a work to gain salvation, and I do not. I don't think God is pleased with one presuming to add to the redemptive work of Christ. Satan would have man put his trust in self. Let me also invite you to my web site at www.BibleCounsel.homestead.com for some thoughts, which may be of interest. Ever in Christ, [R.L.D. - 3/01] |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/5/2003 4:10 AM |
| Joie, I much disagree with the doctrine of baptism for salvation. I believe it dishonors God. Without going into all the verses on the subject here, I will attach a letter which quite well cover it.
| Sojourner, you would do well to study the Word of God; and not some man's theories. How can saying Baptism is part of salvation, how can it dishonor God when God is the one who chose this to be part of salvation? How can you accept 'believe' and ye shall be saved ----- and not accept 'believe and be baptized and ye shall be saved -- as coming from the same God and not believe the part about being baptized? See some man taught you this - so you accept his words above God's word. For the same word said be baptized and ye shall be saved, yet you discount that. Then why not discount believing and say this dishonors God? Read Acts 2. when all those people asked Peter what to do to be saved, he most certainly did not tell them to just believe. Nope. He told them they must be baptized and receive the Holy Ghost. I tell you, the same is still true today. If God chose this, no one can say it dishonors him. How can his own way dishonor him? It is a lie. |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/5/2003 4:25 AM |
Acts 19 1. And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2. He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Now do you believe that Paul knew the truth about salvation? Did he believe as you do, that all it takes is to BELIEVE? COURSE NOT. Verse 1-- he found some BELIEVERS---( now in the opinion of most churches, this made them 'saved' right? Well, aparently Paul did not think so --- for look what he asked these BELIEVERS ... Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? Now if Paul believed that only believing saves people, WHY DID HE ASK THESE BELIEVERS IF THEY HAD RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST SINCE THEY BELIEVED? Think about this. Your soul depends on it. You cannot call God (his word) a lie and be saved. If as you think, the H.G. is automaticly GIVEN to people soon as they believe, if Paul thought this, then WHY did he ask these people this question in the first place? Did they have the H.G.? No. They said We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. Did they believe? Yes. So what did Paul say to them then? Did he say as your teacher would, well then you did not believe right, with your heart. Now did Paul say that? Nope. He said, Unto what then were ye baptized? Why? Because he knew what Peter had said, Be baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ FOR the remission of sins, and you SHALL RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST. So Paul knew something was wrong with their baptism. Now if it is not necessary to salvation (receiving the H.G) Why did Paul pin-point this as their problem -- and not as you would say - you have not believed right. See, Paul did not see their believing as their problem --- he saw their baptism as the problem. And it proved out. 4. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Now it very clear that Paul did not hold your belief that baptism as part of salvation dishonors God. This is just too clear here for anyone to miss. |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/5/2003 4:37 AM |
Now why do you suppose Paul considered this baptism to be necessary to salvation? I will show you why. This is what he was taught by those in Christ before him. This is what he was told by the one Jesus told him to go listen to. Acts. 22: 10. And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
11. And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
12. And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
13. Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14. And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15. For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16. And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Now here is the account of the great light appearing to Paul. He was sent by God to one named Ananias, a devout men. Ananias had seen a vision of God telling him exactly where Paul was and what to do. So what he told Paul was what God told him to say and do. What did he tell Paul to do? 16. And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Be baptized, and WASH AWAY THY SINS, (How) .. calling on the name of the Lord. See, perfectly in agreement with what the one with the keys told that great crowd, Be Baptized in the name of the Lord FOR THE REMISSION OF (OR WASHING AWAY) THY SINS. NOW YOUR TEACHERS FEELS QUALIFIED TO CALL BOTH PETER, PAUL, AND ANANIAS, AND THE BOOK OF ACTS A BIG LIE. |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/5/2003 4:42 AM |
p.s. Note also that not one word is mentioned here to Paul about BELIEVING. Not one word. Why? If this is what Paul needed to do to be saved or made right with God, then why did Ananias not say this to him? He never even mentioned it. He was concerned with Paul's baptism; just as Paul was concerned with those men in Acts 12 their baptism. See now why Satan is so busy attacking this right way of baptism and the necessity of it? |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/5/2003 4:57 AM |
Do you believe that having the Holy Ghost is necessary to salvation? Well? If so, do you believe that it is given to those who believe? at the very time they believe? Well? Can you be saved and not have the H.G.? Can you believe and not have the H.G.? Which comes first? Believing, baptism, or the H.G.? You say baptism FOLLOWS being saved - or having the H.G. Or do you think the H.G. is not part of it? answer these questions as to how you believe it now. Then read on: Acts 8: 5. Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.
6. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.
7. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.
8. And there was great joy in that city.
9. But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
10. To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.
11. And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
12. But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Now see, here that these people BELIEVED this word; then they were baptized.
13. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Simon BELIEVED (now you say his belief was not geniune- but the Word does not say that). It does not point out that he did not truly believe. So we cannot assume that. He was also baptized.
14. Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15. Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
Now, if receiving the Holy Ghost comes automaticly with believing, why does this say these apostles came down and prayed for them to receive the H. G.? See, they had all believed and been baptized; but still did NOT HAVE THE HOLY GHOST.
16. (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17. Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
This declares that the H.G. had fallen on none of them; yet they had already believed and been baptized. Then they laid hands on them, and they received the H.G. So where is your doctrine that all they had to do was beleive? it is out in the error can. |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/18/2003 7:40 PM |
|   Dear Moses&Elijah, This is just for you. Thank you so very much for the lovely picture you made for me and the precious message. May God richly bless and reward you for you kindness. You are quickly winning a very special place in my heart. I Thank God for sending you our way. I do pray you will receive many spiritual blessings here at Build on the True Foundation. I will be tied up for a few day babysitting my grandchildren; (two of them are here now). So I will not be very active here for a while. But Hope to see all of you keep up the good work for our wonderful Father God. You have a very wise Father God. | | | 
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/18/2003 7:44 PM |
 I have saved this to my hard drive. Thank you. I will be using it in some of my messages. Did you do this yourself? If so, you are far ahead of me. I only 'copy' what others make. Ha.Jo |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/21/2003 2:46 AM |
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| | | It is very sad to me to see people 'running' away from the only true way of Salvation. It is so very sad to see the Whore church with more influence on folks than the one and only true Church, that one Baptized into the Body of Christ by the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. You know, when Moses went up on the mt. to receive the Law, from which salvation was impossible, those people said they did NOT WANT TO SEE OR HEAR THAT VOICE EVER AGAIN. FOR IT SAID THEY COULD NOT ENDURE THAT WHICH WAS SPOKEN. People, that is what cannot be endured - that of being under the iron rule of Law. God said they did good to take that attitude! God said they would not hear that voice ever again. God did not want people under that Law. That is why He brought Jesus and New Testament Salvation, apart from the works of the Law. Peter declared this way of salvation, receiving the Holy Ghost according to Acts, to be JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND FULL OF GLORY. And truly it is. I who have experienced this great wonderful glory, agree fully with my Brother Peter. So I ask, THEN WHY ARE PEOPLE RUNNING AWAY FROM THIS GREAT TRUTH? FROM THIS JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND FULL OF GLORY SALVATION? WHY ARE THEY SAYING TO GOD AND JESUS, WE DO NOT WISH TO EVER HEAR THESE WORDS AGAIN? SHAME, SHAME ON ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE THIS ATTITUDE AGAINST THE SAVLATION PURCHASED BY THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS! God is not going to say you do well. Nope. He is going to condemn you to hell. Hebrews declares, how shall you escape who neglect SO GREAT SALVATION. It is true. You will not escape who hate this true way of salvation and call it all kind of evil names. Make up stuff like 'jibbish' and other junk names you give to the precious Holy Ghost speaking through his human vessels in whom He has taken up His abode. SHAME, SHAME ON YOU. God will not acquite you. Jo, in Love with N.T. Savlation. It is JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND FULL OF GLORY. God will let you have your own way-- the way which leads to eternal DEATH. He will let you never hear this great message again. You will not hear this great voice of the N.T. Savlation again. those who have run away from it because you hate the truth. You love a dead, formal, lifeless church ritual instead of the joy unspeakable and full of glory. | | |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/21/2003 5:12 PM |
Romans 10: 9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Now I ask you, IS THIS THE ONLY VERSE IN THE WHOLE WORD OF GOD WHICH YOU BELIEVE? IS IT THE ONLY VERSE PERTAINING TO SALVATION? This is the question you all need to come to grips with. Do you discard all the rest of the BOOK? Better take heed to your spirit. We are saved by EVERY WORD OF GOD -- INCLUDING ACTS 2: 38. |
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