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General : Does it Ever End??
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  (Original Message)Sent: 28/05/2008 3:03 a.m.
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From: XtraMSN Nicknamepandora721Sent: 28/05/2008 7:12 a.m.
Hi. It goes against every law of nature to walk away from our own flesh and blood.....but they are disordered and in order for us to survive their madness, we have to do these things. I can only imagine how miserable this must have made you......but it had to be done.
 
The ultimate guilt threat.suicide......well, sad as it is, if he is going to do it, nothing and nobody will stop him.
 
I have similar problems with my mother too. She was the first one to point me on the pyschopath road, she saw it first, but she is older and whenever things calm down, she gets a bit sentimental and starts the...well maybe she grew up by now stuff...I think my mother thinks this way aswell cos she wasn't directly targetted by P kid.I was..and we don't really see it 100% til we are the victim.
 
Pson ranted and raved cos he couldn't get his own way..a teenage tantrum maybe?.......You stick to what you know is best for you.
 
P kid here would never give her game away and tell you what she was going to do, she would tell you when she is nice she is at her worst......nobody would know how deadly she was going to be until afterwards....so, hopefully your son will have blown himself over with all the yelling and may not take anything further..also, my daughter would try to get someone to do her dirty work also....hard as it may seem, if you think the threats are real, you may have to go along the police/court route with him. good luck.

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From: XtraMSN NicknameShadow_Dancr_Sent: 29/05/2008 4:46 p.m.
In answer to your question, Does it ever end? Nope! It has been almost three years since my N/P daughter played her hand for the last time. She moved out Christmas day, I didn't react. Three months later I answered a knock on the door to find three police officers standing there, and was told I was under arrest for allegedly threatening my daughter. (hadn't spoken to her for almost three months) I was arrested and when I walked out to the police car, I saw my oldest son's truck at the end of the street, I was told he was taking my youngest son. I spent five hours in a jail cell. It was all thrown out of court in the end, but not until it cost me three thousand dollars for my lawyer. Was that the end??? NO! I found websites where my daughter had totally defamed and slandered me. Going as far as to identify me on these sites. When steps were taken to bring her actions to light, she arrived on my doorstep and had a full blown rant, screaming that I wasn't her mother. I closed the door in her face. Was that the end? NOPE... she ensures that information gets to me through channels, the latest being that she is pregnant and is getting an abortion....this will be her fourth abortion. My response to this information? "have at it kid....it's your choice and it's your life...." I'm to a point where I just don't care anymore.... now that's sad. :(

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamemaligned1000Sent: 29/05/2008 7:31 p.m.
Shadow- I don't think it's a bad thing to get to the point that you don't care.  I may be getting there slowly.  I read a bumper sticker and had to laugh:  "I use to care but now I take a pill for that"! 
I cringed when I read what you went through. 

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From: XtraMSN NicknamegrammycakeSent: 29/05/2008 10:00 p.m.
Shadow,
 I do not now the answer. Unless they decide to change and we stop reacting to the rages and ill behavior it will continue.
 It is hard for me to know if I am dealing with mental illness or a hateful adult child. Maybe they are one in the same. I am here to find out.
 I do love my son but have put a emotional wall between he and I. I treat him as a compassionate friend would. I also walk away when he gets demanding and abusive.
 I have told him that I am a good person, an adult woman and I will not tolerate his verbal abuse. I then hang the phone up or ask him to leave or house.
 I was an abused child and I have recently taken the last of abuse from anyone. I not only deserve respect, I demand it! :)
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Grammycake

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From: XtraMSN NicknameShadow_Dancr_Sent: 29/05/2008 10:31 p.m.
maligned1000, I love that bumper sticker. :) My new favorite saying when it comes to this child and hearing the newest chapter in the saga is: "My give a damn is busted!"

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From: XtraMSN NicknamesparkysmoonladySent: 1/06/2008 11:18 p.m.
Another line is
 
"I'm not apathetic - I just don't care"
 
Which in my mind shows that I can about a lot of things - but not the decisions and consequences of people old enough to know better who are still 2 year olds having a tantie in a public place.
 
When people are two years old they don't have a social responsibility - they have needs that need to be met and things they want but might not get
 
Public humiliation is the name of the game
 
Name and shame the rotten parents who took my lolly pop away
 
Cry because I pulled my bike apart for the 20th time and now no one knows where all the nuts, screws and washers are - and don't care anymore either
 
Nuts, screws and washers - I coulds run a long way with that one - yes indeed.
 
Let them play the suicide card - if they are that desperate - then tell them no one is gunna write that obiturary. No one is likely to write a glowing eulogy and even if some one gets up and says
 
ALAS POOR YORRICK - I KNEW HIM WELL
 
They might be holding a skull in their hand but really - it's not their skull and not their funeral.
 
I know - they think thy have us ransomed for their precious lives - but they get less precious with every negative act
 
And here's the thing - they won't listen and won't read this or any other satirical comments
 
It won't end - but it strikes me as crazy that a bullying teenager can have his parents arrrested and questioned when everyone knows darn well what a hide that little dingbat is
 
Alas
 
BTW - That quote isn't mine - it's from Hamlet
 
Lin

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From: XtraMSN NicknamekellomalSent: 3/06/2008 4:04 a.m.
Hi keepbeingtrue,
My 15yr ?P has just recently said to me that it is all my fault that he is the way he is and look at what we have done to him and how we have ruined his life-------I sat and thought about this for so long and all this guilt suddenly hit me but then reality took over when I looked at what he had, and still is, putting us through---there are no excuses for his behaviour. On the surface I am polite to him and that is it. I show him no attention or affection and now dont even react when he does something awful. At first I felt guilty for not punishing him but I know he does not learn from punishment and he sees emotions in me when I react to his behaviours and punish him. I find it so difficult not reacting to him.
My 18yr P and I have had NC for nearly 2 years apart from a few phone calls. We now live the other side of the world from him and as difficult as it has been, I have peace of mind. I know he can no longer hurt me. If we had stayed in the UK I honestly do not know how I would have coped because it would never, ever end as he would always be there just like my 15yr old----and I cant see a way out with him.
NC for me is definately the only way forward, the only way I can have some life. I pray for the day when my 15yr old is out my life and I can move forward again.
Kel

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamebelrose777Sent: 6/06/2008 8:05 p.m.
i want that bumper sticker. the pill is called klonopin(addiction risk). these p/n people can make you physically ill sometimes.my hubby practically begged me to work  through "the anger workbook".  he could see how i was being effected. so i sappose i'll be a good girl and do my homework-it was recomend by my favrite counselor my son ever saw in one of his many boobyhatch stays. may as well get something for the thou$and$ we spent on him before we wised up-belrose

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamebelrose777Sent: 6/06/2008 8:09 p.m.
shadow dancr-i'm going to use that as well.make a bumper sticker u 2 could be rich  
:)  belrose

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