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From: XtraMSN NicknameTacoma43  (Original Message)Sent: 3/01/2007 3:56 p.m.
I have a 15 yr old daughter who has been acting out for the last 3 yrs or so..Been in and out of juvenile detention, mental hospitals for suicide attempts, she is also a cutter, has had no major drama in her life and has been loved and nutured her whole life. She shows signs of anti social behavior, lacks compassion a lot of the time, and also has extremely low self esteem and also does some bizzare things. She also told me it is hard for her not to shop lift which ends her in jail. She seems to be illlogical most of the time...Psychiatrists are apprehensive about dianosing and say that she is too young. They really give me no info..she has been in therapy for 3 yrs but does not seem to be getting better. Question: What is my best choice of finding someone that could give me more answers? Psychiatrist? psychologist? Forensic psychiatrist? Therapists don't seem to know a lot, other than having my daughter someone to talk to. I would like to get some direction here as far as getting her the right help. She also has been on many different meds without any progress. Please give me your opinions. I live in the Seattle area. Thanks so much!!


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From: XtraMSN Nicknameparadox125Sent: 5/01/2007 12:04 p.m.
Hi Tacoma,
I don't have any advice regarding what you're looking for...but think you might have better luck posting your question on the general message board...as it's more active.

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From: XtraMSN Nicknametwinkletoes678Sent: 5/01/2007 11:17 p.m.
Hi...I don't have any practical tips for this either cos its not something I encountered with P daughter.......there are many of us here who have had to deal with much grief and heartache...welcome to our group...sorry I can't be of more use . hugs.

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From: XtraMSN NicknamefemfreeSent: 13/01/2007 2:09 p.m.
Hi Marsha. This must be so difficult for you. I did notice you said she was a 'cutter'. This may be some indication of a future diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder. You may wish to ask her care givers/psychiatrists etc. about Dialectic Behaviour Therapy, here's one link I found:
 
Learn as much as you can as fast as you can and protect yourself financially and emotionally.
 
Hugs
femfree 
 
Dialectic Behaviour Therapy developed by Dr. M. Lineham
 

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From: XtraMSN NicknamesparkysmoonladySent: 16/01/2007 1:24 a.m.
Hey Tacoma
 
Your daughter is still a minor so you do deserve to have some kind of diagnosis - especially as they are giving her meds which don't seem to be helping
 
You could insist on some information - after all - unless she is in hospital or jail you are the one handing out the tablets - (I hope)
 
You say she has been "acting out" for about 3 years.
 
It sounds like something I call ASD - attention seeking devices
 
I went though a lot of similar behaviour with my son except he got into hanging instead of cutting
 
But he lied, stole, had motor vehicle offences and assault changes all on his juvenile record
 
I had no diagnosis either and in his case the condition was fatal
 
I certainly hope you can get some assistance - insist on it - before it's too late
 
And please remember - this is not your fault
 
Sometimes somethings goes wrong in the womb and it's happening more and more in our societies were children find a certain loss of social limitations once the reach pubery
 
Good luck with it and please keep us informed
 
Lin

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From: XtraMSN NicknameTacoma43Sent: 16/01/2007 7:15 a.m.

Thanks so much for replying to me. Yes, the most frustrating part is that I do not know what is going on with Lisa. Doctors only say that she is depressed and has anxiety. She has been on so many different meds and nothing seems to help at all. She is very depressed and anxious but as her mom and being with her more than anyonein her life I can not deny that I see disturbing behaviors. She has also been in and out of juvenile detention for taking my car in the middle of the night and then driving miles away and then just leaving my car there after she has hit either poles or other vehicles. It's quite bizzare since she does this by herself with no particular destination and shows very little remorse for the damage she has caused. It's not like she is going for a teenage joy ride with her friends, which would be bad enough, but she does these kind of things alone. As a result she is 16 and has 4 felonies on her record. She also shoplifts and doesn't care if she gets caught. She has her own money in the bank but will not spend it but would rather steal. It is very strange. She is a cutter and has scarred up both of her arms. 2 suicide attempts and has been hospitalized twice. Therapists and doctors are reluctant to diagnose because they say she is too young. I see symtons of borderline disorder, odd, etc. To me there is something very wrong and I am scared for her safety. She rages a lot and is very outspoken and rude. Has a difficult time making friends etc. There is so much more, but please tell me a bit more about your son....as far as his condition being fatal. I am so concerned and lost. BTW, where do you live? What is the best choice as far as getting a diagnosis? She sees a therapist weekly, but I don't feel that the therapist is qualified to idendify what is wrong. It seems she is just a sounding board.

Please write back

Brigitte

Tacoma/Seattle Wa.




 
 

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From: sparkysmoonlady

Hey Tacoma
 
Your daughter is still a minor so you do deserve to have some kind of diagnosis - especially as they are giving her meds which don't seem to be helping
 
You could insist on some information - after all - unless she is in hospital or jail you are the one handing out the tablets - (I hope)
 
You say she has been "acting out" for about 3 years.
 
It sounds like something I call ASD - attention seeking devices
 
I went though a lot of similar behaviour with my son except he got into hanging instead of cutting
 
But he lied, stole, had motor vehicle offences and assault changes all on his juvenile record
 
I had no diagnosis either and in his case the condition was fatal
 
I certainly hope you can get some assistance - insist on it - before it's too late
 
And please remember - this is not your fault
 
Sometimes somethings goes wrong in the womb and it's happening more and more in our societies were children find a certain loss of social limitations once the reach pubery
 
Good luck with it and please keep us informed
 
Lin

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From: XtraMSN NicknamegoosieroseSent: 29/01/2007 11:51 p.m.
Hi Tacoma,
I'm also new here and have a son with some terrible problems. There is a 2 year old child tied up in our partiular saga, his child, who now lives with me.
I apologise for being cynical, but please ensure your daughter has some form of birth control that does not rely on her taking a tablet, because if she fell pregnant, your nightmare will have only just begun. Little children do not need parents like thses kids.
I'm sorry you are going through this, and have some understanding of how you must feel.
I think a psychiatrist may be the best option for you. Ask around, some are more interested in youth and their problems. a psychologist will only give therapy, not a diagnosis. If it's abehavioural disoredr, you may never really have a diagnosis. My son is too clever for a psychiatrist, so continues on his merry destructive way.
Goosie

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From: XtraMSN NicknameMom19831Sent: 10/02/2007 12:51 a.m.
Hi, I'm new here too. My son, 23 is a psychopath. A scary psychopath. I too have legal custody of his two children ages 3 & 1.

Lin? Will you tell me about your son and what happened to him?

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From: XtraMSN NicknameKazza9100Sent: 10/02/2007 8:02 p.m.
Hi Lin,
 
 U have just put a thougt into my head talkng about something happening in the womb.  Whilst there is a high certainity that P is genetic, there seems to be an awful lot more of them than there used to be.  When u say something cud have happene in the womb, it makes me wonder if docors playing god could play a part in that bcos if something is wrong with an unborn baby, the body will often abort it but now with medical science, there are things being done to stop women miscarrying.
 
Just a thought.
Kazza

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