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From: suzanne  (Original Message)Sent: 10/10/2007 3:04 p.m.
Hello,
I was surfing the net one night looking up definitions of psychopaths when I found this site.  What a relief this has been.  It is as if I was reading stories about my daughter over and over again.  The biggest relief is that I have found other parents who have come to the same conclusion my husband and I have:  our daughter is a psychopath and in order to protect the rest of our family and ourselves we must cut all contact with her after she turns eighteen.
This is the most heartbreaking decision of my life.  It doesn't feel natural.  It goes against all of my maternal instincts. 
My daughter was adopted by us at age five. She came from a rotten orphanage in Russia and weighed 25lb. when we got her.  Right from the beginning I thought she had a strange emptiness in her eyes.  Whenever my husband was in the bathroom she would try to peak through the door, she killed a vole in the garden and other strange behaviors. However,  I have another adopted child who is a wonderful person and I thought love conquered all.  Good food, attention, love, that's all it takes, right?  Wrong! 
Today those eyes are not only emotionless, but stone cold and hateful.
She hates me and her other siblings.  I also have two biological children.  Her father died from cancer at age twelve and we struggled.  I met my current husband and married a couple of years ago.  He would be a wonderful stepdad if she would let him. My friends blame the death of her father on her escalating hateful behavior, but she has always been this way.  She became sexually promiscous in the last two years.  I understand teenagers who think they are "in love," and are sexually experimenting.  She, however, was going at it with two or three guys at the same time who she hardly knew. She sees nothing wrong with this.  She crawled out her window at night and tried to break into houses of boys who were resisting her"charms."
She found a dysfunctional teacher at her last school and told her I was beating her and mistreating her.  She also told other parents this.  Social services showed up at our door.
She is several grades behind because she feels schoolwork is beneath her.
We found journals where she outlines and graphs her hatred of us and her plans for vengence, especially me.
We sent her to a boarding school for troubled teens and she has been making filthy untrue accusations from there, sexually approaching girls, peeping at them in the bathroom, cheating at schoolwork, failing grades, etc.
I don't expect her to get better.  We have decided to keep her there until she turns eighteen and then give her some money and throw her out.  If she stays here her accusations have become much more sophisticated and her behavior more slick.  She would have the police at our door hauling us away in a heartbeat.
Even some of our friends and family don't understand how capable she is of evil behavior because she is such a good actress around them.
She is without a conscience and we fear what she will do to somebody else if she has the opportunity.
Suzanne


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From: XtraMSN Nicknametwinkletoes678Sent: 24/10/2007 8:29 a.m.

Hi suzanne and welcome. P here is my biological daughter but I have come to the same conclusions re her as you have with your daughter......and I wonder how we can have one twisted kid and the rest of the family are normal.

I stuck by my daughter and supported her through thick and thin, tried to reason with her when she was doing something wrong.....but she was a good actress too and even fooled me that things were ok... I.blamed myself, blamed her friends.......blamed everybody but now I know she is what she is and there is nothing I can do about it.

  I do believe these people have a choice.they know the difference between right and wrong cos we taught them..they choose to behave as they do..but then I suppose aswell that it would be as alien behaviour for me to be as  my daughter is as it would be for her to behave as I do. we all are what we are..thankfully its the minority that are twisted.

 


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From: suzanneSent: 24/10/2007 2:53 p.m.
Hi Twinkletoes,
 
Many people have been abused and are messed up, but not evil.  My daughter spent the first five years of her life in a miserable orphanage.  Of course I expect her to have problems.  But the thing I will NOT accept from her anymore is the absolute evil bent of her mind.  I refuse to blame myself for that. She lives to hurt other people.  She has a small build so fortunately she can't physically hurt most adults, but I have seen the most hateful, stone cold glare in her eyes that I have ever seen in a human and I know she would kill if she could.  This is the only forum where I can express this with others who know exactly what I mean. Even some good friends of mine think I have failed miserably raising this child, or I am being a drama queen about her problems.
She recently set out to destroy her brother with a false accusation which shocked her sisters so much that they see that I'm telling the truth. Add that to some other stunts she pulled in recent years and at least my immediate family is on board with this.
She was raised in a good home with a solid marriage and a wonderful dad.  He died a few years ago and I am now married to a wonderful man who would have been happy to be a good stepdad to her.  Her behavior started way before her father died, by the way.  There are people who try to make excuses for her with that.
Everyone thinks there are psychopaths in the world and yet when they run into one or know someone who has they don't believe it until a disaster happens. We can't wait for that.
I haven't put my daughter out yet because she isn't 18.  I live for the day, but I know it will be one of the worst days in my life, even though I'm saving enough money for her to get a start somewhere.  If she won't get her lazy self a job, too bad.
I'm also sick of the looks of accusation and superiority from other people about this issue.  What I love is when I'm asked if she is my only teenager.  I have raised three other kids to adulthood, thank-you and I know what is NORMAL and what isn't NORMAL teenage behavior!  Sorry, but that one always irritates me.
Thanks for writing and I hope your day is a wonderful one.
Suzanne


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From: Coping with the Psychopath/Narcissist Child <[email protected]>
To: Coping with the Psychopath/Narcissist Child <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 3:29 am
Subject: Re: Just found this site

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From: twinkletoes678
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Hi suzanne and welcome. P here is my biological daughter but I have come to the 
same conclusions re her as you have with your daughter......and I wonder how we 
can have one twisted kid and the rest of the family are normal. 
I stuck by my daughter and supported her through thick and thin, tried to reason 
with her when she was doing something wrong.....but she was a good actress too 
and even fooled me that things were ok... I.blamed myself, blamed her 
friends.......blamed everybody but now I know she is what she is and there is 
nothing I can do about it. 
  I do believe these people have a choice.they know the difference between right 
and wrong cos we taught them..they choose to behave as they do..but then I 
suppose aswell that it would be as alien behaviour for me to be as  my daughter 
is as it would be for her to behave as I do. we all are what we are..thankfully 
its the minority that are twisted. 
 

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From: XtraMSN Nicknametwinkletoes678Sent: 24/10/2007 7:00 p.m.
Hi.my days are usually good cos they are P free.and I am so thankful for that.
 
It annoys me no end when I see others raising an eye brow at me.....you can almost read their minds..its my fault!! but the truth is that we had a very good family life.in fact, it was fantastic until P here reached around 14...I just thought(and hoped) that she would grow out of it etc and life would return to normal.and there would be days when I could embarrass her and say...remember when you did..........
 
she never got better.in fact,  it was a downhill slide all the way to the bottom.
 
I have learned to look back from a distance. the signs are so much clearer with hindsight.
 
and as for allegations.well, I think we heard them all aswell. In fact, she made serious allegations about everybody she ever came across....even so, when they are directed at yourself there is no longer any doubt about the truth, is there?.its all out in the open.

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