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Politics-HotTpic : did you like what the president gave the pope
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From: MSN NicknameMetro3550  (Original Message)Sent: 6/5/2004 11:38 AM
well i think the pope earned it realy he has made peace and has been seen as a figure of the holy land and taming down tempers in the middle east but still i think its a polical stunt a pat on back now and shame the middle east later if bushes plan dosnt work to get the ball rolling and the troops home and kerry is okay in my book hell kerry cant make up his mind and stay focus so what do we do vote donald duck at this point  


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From: DanSent: 6/6/2004 12:52 AM
Bah.  This thing about Kerry not being able to make up his mind is nothing more than the result of attacks by the conservative right.  Sure he's changed his position on some issues.  What man in his right mind doesn't change his stand in the face of new information? 
 
Worse is a person who says, "Stay the course." no matter what the reality if the situation is.  For example.  What do you say about a president who insists that tax cuts are good for the economy, in the face of three straight years of problems, lost jobs, rising inflation, and a huge federal deficit?  Don't you think it might be time to say, "Ummm, Maybe those tax cuts weren't such a good idea after all."?  Wouldn't it be time to change your mind in the face of the facts?  But noooooooooo.  The Bushies want to make them PERMANENT.  What's wrong with this picture? 
 
If the Republicans win in the fall, the country will survive, and the country will continue and 4 years later the Democrats will come back even bigger than they should this time.  But oh, the damage they'll do in the meantime. 
 
I mean, look at this?  They still want to build the SDI to stop a nuclear ... Oh, excuse me, a nucular attack (Bush continues to mispronouce nuclear) attack when no one but us has long range nuclear capability.  What's wrong with this picture? 
 
They want to spend billions and billions... No... more than a HUNDRED billion dollars on an unproven, and indeed, mostly failed when tested technology to stop something that will probably never come.  I just think this is money that could be better used elsewhere.   
 
Vote Kerry.  You can't leave this idiot and his cronies in charge of the country another four years.  If  we don't get someone in there to kick those bastages out and get things back on track, it will just take a lot longer to get things straightened out once we get the Democrats back in power. 
 
Remember the way things were 4 years ago?  Can anyone honsetly say the country is better off today than it was under the Clinton administration?  Forget the Lewinsky thing for a minute.  No one liked that.  If you put that aside for just a minute though...  Think about the way the economy perked along for 8 consecutive years of sustained growth, with a low unemployment rate and a huge federal SURPLUS and peace... glorious peace most all the time, punctuated by short, victorious actions where we got in, and got out. 
 
Contrast and compare that to what we got now.  A jobless rate that continues to hover around 6%, a huge deficit, and an economy that barely sputters along... up this month, down the next, and American men and women dying every day in a land far away, while we here, in the homeland, hunker down under yet another threat of a terroist attack aimed at us sometime this summer. 
 
Are we any better off?  I say not.  I say the country has gone to Hell in a handbasket since George W. Bush and his neo-conservatives took over.  And those are just the highlights.  I've not even mentioned the enviornment, or what he's done to women, or education. 
 
Me?  I would vote for Mickey Mouse over this turkey, but then he was our governor here in Texas before he became president and I knew him for what he was already.  He did the same thing to Texas as he's done to the country.  He left things in a shambles down here, with the Texas treasury in a deficit and education raped and the state economy in a ruin, and off he went to the White House to do the same thing to the country. 
 
No, Tom.  Vote for Kerry if he's going to be the Democratic nominee.  We've got to keep Bush from another 4 years for the good of the country in my humble opinion. 
 
This is liable to make some people mad.  But hey, if you can't handle the truth... I'm sorry.  I don't think anyone can rightfully dispute one single thing I've put up here.  Oh, some of our conservative friends probably will, if they even take the time to read it all.  But I don't think there's any factual mistakes anywhere in this.  Neither have I distorted anything.  It's just stuff none of the conservatives want to talk about.  They would rather throw out lies about Kerry, and distort his record.  That way, you see, they don't have to face up to the truth about what's been going on the past three and a half years. 
 
Last month, the unemployment rate dropped more than it has in any previous month since Bush took office.  The economy, which has been in a jobless recovery, finally created some 250,000 jobs.  However, it's going to have to do that for several more months to catch up to the millions of jobs that have been lost due to the disasterous economic policies of this administration, so it's a bit early to say that Bushe's policies are "working already", as Ann Coulter has said. 
 
OK well, that's enough.  Vote Kerry.  That's my advice.  LOL
 
Dan

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From: MSN NicknameMetro3550Sent: 6/8/2004 4:21 AM
i do see the military is hurting as well putting troops over seas is not what is needed we need some but not that many over their as well i was in the navy and working with junk is useless and wrong we should have the tools to do the job right but i do agree with the wastein office equipment vise tools to do a job think logic not stpudly i hate to say it but computers aint gona fix a boat with a mine in the bottom of her hullin the alantic 

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From: MSN NicknameMetro3550Sent: 6/8/2004 4:31 AM
i do agree that bush lacks alot of skills but our forest now will be cut to prevent forst fires ya right i see that as a lumber hike and we still are paying out the nose tell me where bush has helped the youth nota but the weathy all over the nation execept home and he got the auto makers out of detroit and to mexico to where they can work harder for less money any then they picket walmart for busting up the job pay scale go figure i cant win but i will vote kerry and the reason is simple he has experiance in war where bush ran and hid cut and dry no ifs or buts metro

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From: DanSent: 6/8/2004 10:43 PM
And don't believe a word of any of these attack e-mail things that are going around putting down Kerry's record. 
 
They really make me mad.  They're always written by a guy who has never been in combat, but 'who has known people who have been in combat". 
 
Not the same thing, I think. 
 
I'm with you, bro. 
 
I don't got a problem with a guy who changes his position based on new information.  I got a bigger problem with a guy who sticks with things in the face of overwhelming evidence that what he's doing is all screwed up.  I.e. the Bush administration, the tax cuts and the huge federal deficit.
 
Dan

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